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“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.

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TheClaws · 19/03/2018 06:34

This is a quote of Napoleon Bonaparte. Napoleon has a number of quotes when Read through the lens of Trump are eerily prescient. Napoleon wasn’t of the same political bent as Trump necessarily, and he was certainly more cerebral, but the lust for power is the same.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 25/03/2018 09:18

He's brash and hungry for the limelight but it appears that Avenatti is a very smart cookie and a very successful lawyer. Maybe Avenatti and Stormy will be able to wound Trump.

DH thinks that there may be a pregnancy/child revealed in the 60 Minutes interview tonight as they have already emphasised the fact that Trump had unprotected sex with Stormy. I think DH may have been watching too many soap operas but still...

How Stormy Daniels’ Lawyer Is Outfoxing Trump
Michael Avenatti drives racecars and taunts the president’s attorneys on TV and Twitter. He wants you to know he’s single, too.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/24/how-stormy-daniels-lawyer-michael-avenatti-is-outfoxing-trump-217702

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/03/2018 09:22

Can someone point me in the direction of westminstenders threads please. My spelling issue of the title is not helping Grin

lionheart · 25/03/2018 09:25

I see they are trying to discredit him/sell some deep state nonsense because of his work for Biden.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/03/2018 09:26

found the thread.

Gumpendorf · 25/03/2018 09:33

northwest. On the pregnancy/child comment, there was something in the NDA about paternity. O'Donnell was asking questions about it on Twitter. (I'm catching up on the thread in reverse order so apologies if this has been mentioned)

The interview will be fascinating but I really don't want to see any Donald dick pics, thanks. Confused

lionheart · 25/03/2018 09:36

This detail from the article made me laugh.

'In Pennsylvania, a man showed up with an assault rifle and his dog—the dog’s head was hung low.'

Gumpendorf · 25/03/2018 10:02

I've caught up and it's good to know everything is going swimmingly Shock

I am imagining Trump holed up in Florida, and being constantly distracted like a 3 year old to prevent him from tweeting anything about the March or about CNN.

I don't think many people think the March will have a direct impact on legislation, but yesterday they signed up many new voters for 2018, made an emotional impact and showed the strength of the movement. It's clever to focus on saving lives rather than on banning guns. It's harder for the NRA apologists, and paid shrills to argue it's anti constitutional.

I thought Harding's end was .... interesting Grin

Very belated Birthday wishes Claws 🍰

lionheart · 25/03/2018 10:20

I'm not sure if it's a good thing that Harding has faded into obscurity or a terrible sign that the lessons have not been learnt because of a selective approach to history.

Harding-Trump would have been an interesting parallel to have to hand during the election.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 10:29

I know this has been posted on here before (because I have posted it Grin) but given my current Hamilton obsession, and Harding talk/it is as it ever was, here are the chillingly prescient words of Hamilton

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 10:33

Tiffany Trump!

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 10:34

Manu Raju
@mkraju

With GOP Rep. Costello of Pa. retiring, giving Dems a key pickup opportunity, there are now 39 Republicans leaving the House, compared to 18 for Dems, who need to pick up 23 seats to take back power in November

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 10:52

Harvey G. Cohen
@CultrHack
Why is it that 70-80%+ of Americans favor: common sense gun control, higher min wage, legal pot, banning 3rd trimester abortions, free college, stricter campaign $$ rules, paid parental leave--but it never gets passed by Congress?@Yascha_Mounk has answers.

America Is Not a Democracy
How the United States lost the faith of its citizens—and what it can do to win them back

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/america-is-not-a-democracy/550931/?utm

[the first story recounted in the article alone is Shock]

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Molly Pitcher
@IndivisibleVV
"For seven years, the NRA skipped a key question on its #IRS form — whether or not it engaged in lobbying. Asked to answer “yes” or “no,” it simply left the space blank." #NRABloodMoney #NRAIsATerroristOrganization
#MarchForOurLives
#VoteForOurLives

nypost.com/2016/01/03/years-of-nra-tax-filings-are-loaded-with-apparent-falsehoods/amp/

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NRA hits new low taunting teen survivors on eve of March for Our Lives

shareblue.com/nra-taunts-parkland-survivors-march-for-our-lives/

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Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Interesting. Some students and families from Parkland, FL were transported to D.C. for the March for Our Lives with the help of Trump ally and New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft.

www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/03/23/parkland-fla-students-and-families-flew-washington-patriots-team-plane/cxMPJUTW6Uq2wJCnnswaZP/story.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 11:05

White supremacy

Hate crimes rose the day after Trump was elected, FBI data show

www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/23/hate-crimes-rose-the-day-after-trump-was-elected-fbi-data-show/

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Lawrence O'Donnell
@Lawrence
Trump appoints a “Native American Ambassador” with no documented connection to any tribe.

www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/marmalade-and-misrepresentation/Content

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Jennifer Turner
‏*@JennTurner*
Disaster capitalism at work in Puerto Rico: new plans to ship prisoners to private prisons on the mainland. Companies are taking advantage of Hurricane Maria and the island’s fiscal crisis to push for privatization and reap profits.

theintercept.com/2018/03/23/puerto-rico-prisons-hurricane-maria/

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Vaughn Hillyard
@VaughnHillyard
Carl Higbie resigned in January from the Trump Administration after @kfile uncovered these online posts. Higbie is now on stage as director of advocacy for America First Policies. Pence to speak here shortly.

Trump appointee Carl Higbie resigns as public face of agency that runs AmeriCorps after KFile review of racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments on the radio

edition.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/kfile-carl-higbie-on-the-radio/index.html

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Greg Greene
@ggreeneva
ICE subdued a woman in front of her kids and bundled her away in an SUV — then, in response to outrage, declared that she played a key role in a criminal human trafficking ring.

The woman has been released without charge.

www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/22/1751172/-Immigrant-mom-arrested-in-front-of-kids-and-accused-of-human-smuggling-is-released-without-charges

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Tariq Nasheed
@tariqnasheed
They are putting this bogus charge on Michael Bennett to send a message to OTHER Black NFL players to stop calling out white supremacy, or they will use the system of white supremacy to target other Black players who get too “uppity”

[he's been arrested under dodgy circumstances for a crime there doesn't appear to be any evidence of save for one officer's testimony]

Eugene Gu, MD
@eugenegu
As an Asian-American who was racially and physically assaulted at Vanderbilt hospital in Tennessee, I was placed under arrest after calling the police for help. Michael Bennett is just the latest victim of systemic racism and institutional white supremacy.

Not all Nazis wear armbands: We have to be vigilant against normalizing evil

www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/not-all-nazis-wear-armbands-we-have-to-be-vigilant-against-normalizing-evil/article37170847/

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Qasim Rashid, Esq.
@MuslimIQ
After Trayvon, Tamir,& Brown, media asked—where are the Black fathers?

But no one doubted the families of white terrorists after Emanuel, Parkland, & Vegas. Meanwhile, Roof's sis, Cruz's bro, & Haddock's bro—all arrested for violence

And no one's asking about Conditt's family😐

In other words, media doubts Black fathers when Black kids are the victims of violence—but refuses to doubt white families when white terrorists are the perpetrators of mass violence.

White privilege is POC suffering collective guilt—while whites are viewed as unique individuals

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 11:08

The Qataris are collecting the whole set!

JOSHUA KUSHNER MET WITH GOVERNMENT OF QATAR TO DISCUSS FINANCING IN THE SAME WEEK FATHER CHARLES KUSHNER DID

theintercept.com/2018/03/23/joshua-kushner-met-with-government-of-qatar-to-discuss-financing-in-the-same-week-father-charles-kushner-did/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 11:16

Robert Costa
@costareports
Relationship to watch: Pompeo and Bolton. They've had several private breakfasts together, just the two of them, at CIA over the past year, per people close to them

And

How Trumpism has come to define the Republican Party

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumpism-has-come-to-define-the-republican-party/2018/03/24/71acf414-2eac-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html

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Evan Rosenfeld

Verified account

@Evan_Rosenfeld
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NEW: The tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the following countries are suspended until May 1, 2018:

  • Argentina
  • Australia
  • Brazil
  • Canada
  • Mexico
  • member countries of the European Union
  • South Korea

twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/977016958641086464

Chris Hayes
@chrislhayes
More Chris Hayes Retweeted Evan Rosenfeld
As a policy making approach, this is a very efficient way of creating corruption. Big blanket blockades, with a series of one-off exemptions negotiated in secret.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 12:17

Skripal attack: 2,800 Russian bots ‘sowed confusion after poison attacks’

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc

Also

#PutinAtWar: Trolls on Twitter
Battles on Twitter over the Skripal poisoning case

medium.com/dfrlab/putinatwar-trolls-on-twitter-5d0bb3dc30ae

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Bill Browder
@Billbrowder
New Russian disinformation on Skripal. They’re now saying Skripal “regretted becoming a double agent and wanted to come back to Russia”. This was the same spin Putin came up with on Berezovsky right after he was found dead

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Peter Jukes

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@peterjukes
16h16 hours ago
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BREAKING via @carolecadwalla gif showing changes made to BeLeave shared drive permissions by @vote_leave officials on 17 March 2017 when investigated by the @ElectoralCommUK over spending limits and coordination. Deleting evidence?

twitter.com/peterjukes/status/977625431900872705

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This whole thread:

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
Money, data, influence: how the Brexit campaigns link up.

twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/977644379681718274

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‘We’re in trouble’: Malcolm Nance sounds the alarm on ‘democracy under attack’ by conservatives ‘owned by the Kremlin’

www.rawstory.com/2018/03/trouble-malcolm-nance-sounds-alarm-democracy-attack-conservatives-owned-kremlin/#.WrXM4r8i4t8.twitter

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The Koch Brothers Tried to Spread Fake News in Black Churches. It Did Not Go Well.

www.motherjones.com/environment/2018/03/the-koch-brothers-tried-to-spread-fake-news-in-black-churches-it-did-not-go-well/

Natsku · 25/03/2018 12:22

Buckets of rocks in classrooms to fight off shooters. 6 year olds getting lollipops for keeping silent during drills. I just can't comprehend this, and how it must feel for parents in the US to send their children to school with all this going on :(

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 12:27

Prematurely posted

This was the link in Browder's post www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-43519494/skripal-regretted-being-double-agent

And date for the diary

Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee
@CommonsCMS
Cambridge Analytica whistle-blower @chrisinsilico and co-founder of @personaldataio Paul- Olivier @podehaye are giving evidence to the @CommonsCMS next week.

Watch this session on Tuesday 27th March 10.30am on parliamentlive.tv

Photo credit: Antonio Olmos

Chaired by @DamianCollins

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John Bolton paid Cambridge Analytica to make Facebook users less ‘limp wristed’ about war

www.rawstory.com/2018/03/john-bolton-paid-cambridge-analytica-make-facebook-users-less-limp-wristed-war/

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TheBeat w/Ari Melber
@TheBeatWithAri
New: We obtained the secret memo from Rudy Giuliani's law firm directly warning one of Trump's biggest donors, Rebekah Mercer, Steve Bannon and Trump data firm CEO Alexander Nix about breaking U.S. law.

twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/977306392544636928

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Tumblr Confirms Daily Beast Reporting on Russian Troll Farm

www.thedailybeast.com/tumblr-confirms-daily-beast-reporting-on-russian-troll-farm

And

Major consumer privacy ballot measure in California likely to draw $100 million of opposition spending from FB/Google

Facebook, Google spending big bucks to fight California data privacy measure
www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article206394929.html

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Facebook hit with four lawsuits in one week over Cambridge Analytica scandal
www.theverge.com/2018/3/23/17155754/facebook-cambridge-analytica-data-breach-scandal

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CeciliaKang
@ceciliakang
NEW: Senate Commerce Committee leaders @johnthune and Sen. Nelson Call on Zuckerberg to testify
“On a bipartisan basis, we believe Mr. Zuckerberg’s testimony is necessary to gain a better understanding of how the company plans to restore lost trust, safeguard users’ data, and end a troubling series of belated responses to serious problems.”
It has officially become too hard for Zuckerberg to avoid coming to Washington to testify

Matt Stoller
@matthewstoller
More Matt Stoller Retweeted CeciliaKang
Nelson and Thune are not populists, this suggests Facebook's political problems are very deep at this point.

And

We Beat Mark Zuckerberg In Hawaii, And We Can Beat Him In Washington
Facebook's CEO is an unelected oligarch. When Democrats retake the House, we must hold him accountable.

www.buzzfeed.com/kanielaing/we-beat-zuckerberg-in-hawaii-we-can-beat-him-in-dc

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/03/2018 12:37

Sun Politics
@SunPolitics
Donald Trump lines up surprise visit to the UK to ‘visit both sides of Irish border as a Brexit troubleshooter’

t.co/ayRwvi7tu7

lionheart · 25/03/2018 13:36

*long

Donald J. Trump

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55m55 minutes ago
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Many lawyers and top law firms want to represent me in the Russia case...don’t believe the Fake News narrative that it is hard to find a lawyer who wants to take this on. Fame & fortune will NEVER be turned down by a lawyer, though some are conflicted. Problem is that a new......

Donald J. Trump

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46m46 minutes ago
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....lawyer or law firm will take months to get up to speed (if for no other reason than they can bill more), which is unfair to our great country - and I am very happy with my existing team. Besides, there was NO COLLUSION with Russia, except by Crooked Hillary and the Dems!

merrymouse · 25/03/2018 14:21

So I haven’t been following the lawyer thing that closely, but it seems from Trump’s tweet that he has been having difficulty finding lawyers...