Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.

973 replies

TheClaws · 19/03/2018 06:34

This is a quote of Napoleon Bonaparte. Napoleon has a number of quotes when Read through the lens of Trump are eerily prescient. Napoleon wasn’t of the same political bent as Trump necessarily, and he was certainly more cerebral, but the lust for power is the same.

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3191613-Even-if-you-subpoena-us-we-wont-turn-up-on-the-Trump-threads

OP posts:
Thread gallery
52
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 07:03

I don’t know anything about South Korean politics. Legitimate reason or power grab? Based on how politicians act, particularly now, I’d say the latter but that could well be unfounded. I also can’t access most of the article behind the paywall which doesn’t help!

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
South Korea’s leader wants to extend presidents’ terms in office to give them more time to implement North Korea policy

Charolais · 23/03/2018 07:03

Every morning I wake up and I am so glad Hillary is not our president.

Roussette · 23/03/2018 07:03

Oh nooooo Pain and I thought I was concentrating! I always read through before I post but dammit, missed that one Grin

Roussette · 23/03/2018 07:04

Hope you've got your tongue firmly in your cheek there Charolais

boatyardblues · 23/03/2018 07:05

As in life, so in public office. Seems Trump is retaining a consistent pattern if attracting lawsuits as POTUS, although I’m liking the shift in trend towards prosecutions.

lettuceWrap · 23/03/2018 07:08

I felt compelled to read the playmate story pain, fortunately breakfast this morning is coffee only.
That is a little disturbing, given some of the rumours about Trump.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 07:29

I think it’s enough to keep on top of the daily deluge of shit without having to track where it all came from Grin

Samuel Oakford
@samueloakford
I heard a lot of people saying Bolton was just someone that gets floated by talking heads, has a higher profile on cable TV Fox News etc. Yes, that's how he was chosen, I think.

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
And this is why you don't hire a psychotic warmonger as a TV pundit while an unstable, nuke-loving president is in the White House, you cable news assholes

Very high and likely not a formally declared war, but reckless and brutal use of military force, with nukes a real possibility. Most likely targets are NK and Iran.

Key to Trump is that unlike other presidents, he truly doesn't care if Americans die en masse in the process

"But he can't really win!"
"But checks and balances!"
"But the generals will save us!"
"But Mueller will save us!"

As I've said many times, you can't see a mushroom cloud through rose-colored glasses. False hope and wishful thinking kills.

You ensure the worst can happen every time you insist that it can't. Every time you refuse to face the severity of the problem. Every time you lie.

Complacency, conformity -- this was the road to catastrophe. You missed the exit.

Gumpendorf · 23/03/2018 07:40

'Let Trump be Trump' it all seems to be disintegrating very quickly, and no-one seems to be trying to stop him. What is it about the GOP?

The Trump Org is all he knows and where, as he perceives it, he was successful. It's inevitable he would try and replicate that in the WH. He thinks he's the supreme leader and no-one has given him any indication that he isn't.

I've been thinking Ivanka might be his VP in 2020. She went to Iowa as he went to New Hampshire this week. The midterms are absolutely the last opportunity to stop him.

That's if we make it to the midterms given Bolton's appointment.

Gumpendorf · 23/03/2018 07:44

@MSNBC

As Trump loses his top Russia lawyer and adds more TV lawyers to his legal team, @maddow asks if Trump is preparing a legal defense or a cable news PR campaign?
on.msnbc.com/2GidJiY

Mueller next to go?

Gumpendorf · 23/03/2018 07:56

Meanwhile, more indictments likely at 2pm UK time. Twitter speculation it may be the DNC hacker aka Guccifer 2.0 who is thought to be a Russian Intelligence Officer. A key player and part of building the case, but Mueller does need to prove some links with Trump pretty soon, or the narrative will run away from him.

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/03/2018 08:16

Don't panic!

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
blueskyinmarch · 23/03/2018 08:29

In the same vein - We're all doomed!

TheClaws · 23/03/2018 09:15

Gosh Ouais I hardly know what day it is sometimes. My DD has not long left home for college and I miss her terribly. Mind you, it was my birthday a couple of days ago so you’d reckon I’d know what month it is Grin

OP posts:
TheClaws · 23/03/2018 09:17

BTW I think Charolais is one of our infrequent ‘conservative visitors’. (That’s a code).

OP posts:
OuaisMaisBon · 23/03/2018 09:52

Belated Happy Birthday Cake, TheClaws Grin
My only daughter left me with an empty nest 4 years ago (I had to think, as it feels like more) and I empathize with you very much with that feeling. For me, this is exacerbated by my joblessness and having a husband who spends more time travelling than here. The closest our daughter been to us since then has been a 3.5hr plane flight away; the furthest was a 22hr flight away; she is currently at university in England, a mere 8hr flight plus 3.5hr train journey away. Please don't do what I have done and eat yourself to into obesity to fill the empty space left by the daughter who has flown! Flowers
Ah, well, sorry for the digression, back to more positive things, such as - erm - Trump. Grin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/03/2018 10:11

Grin that was a really random post further up in the thread!

Happy Belated Birthday TheClaws. I'll be in your position soon.

TheClaws · 23/03/2018 10:16

Not obese yet Ouais! I still have my DS at home, hopefully for at least another couple of years before he goes off to uni. Knowing him, he’ll probably want to go overseas or something Smile

OP posts:
Quantumblue · 23/03/2018 10:32

the Claws my son is in second year away at uni (anu) and oh it leaves a huge gap.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 12:21

Happy belated birthday theclaws!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 12:22

Jonathan Swan
@jonathanvswan
A source close to John Bolton tells me he made no promise to Trump that he "wouldn't start any wars," contrary to reports. "Not true, wasn't discussed," the source says.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 12:37

Bill Browder
@Billbrowder
BREAKING: Estonian government to sanction 49 Russian officials responsible for the torture and murder of Sergei Magnitsky under the Estonian Magnitsky Act

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 13:33

Bolton, McMaster present contrast on Russian hacking

www.politico.com/story/2018/03/23/bolton-mcmaster-present-contrast-on-russian-hacking-441566

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 15:22

Bolton, McMaster present contrast on Russian hacking

www.politico.com/story/2018/03/23/bolton-mcmaster-present-contrast-on-russian-hacking-441566

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2018 15:50

Don’t know what happened there!

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
Two days ago, we revealed Brittany Kaiser introduced Cambridge Analytica employees to Israeli hackers. Today, she leaks the company's blueprint for the Trump campaign to @PaulLewis & @paulhilder. Interesting play, Brittany.

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/23/leaked-cambridge-analyticas-blueprint-for-trump-victory