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“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.

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TheClaws · 19/03/2018 06:34

This is a quote of Napoleon Bonaparte. Napoleon has a number of quotes when Read through the lens of Trump are eerily prescient. Napoleon wasn’t of the same political bent as Trump necessarily, and he was certainly more cerebral, but the lust for power is the same.

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3191613-Even-if-you-subpoena-us-we-wont-turn-up-on-the-Trump-threads

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boatyardblues · 22/03/2018 07:05

But anyway, I’d love to hear more about this ‘chemistry’ Trump has with Putin.

There’s the special kind of Russian chemistry we’ve just seen in Salisbury. I think Donnie is trying to stay on Vlad’s good side.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 07:10

Ongoing rumblings:

Laura Jarrett
@LauraAJarrett
Sessions not under investigation for perjury, lawyer says - CNNPolitics

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/21/politics/jeff-sessions-perjury-investigation/index.html

Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
The narrowness of Sessions’ lawyer’s statement is interesting: only about his confirmation testimony. Not his Senate Intel testimony (where he had a major error) and not obstruction.

And

Sam Levine
@srl
Jeh Johnson: With the benefit of hindsight, the sanctions we issued in late December have not acted as an effective deterrent and it's now on the current administration to act on those and follow through on those

And

NYC’s buildings regulator launched investigations at more than a dozen Kushner Cos. properties following an AP report showing the developer filed false paperwork about its number of rent-regulated tenants.

apnews.com/amp/307b69c25cb24b9184a9989543428a8a

And

John Hudson
@John_Hudson
New: Trump blindsided WH and State officials by supporting a meeting with Putin on arms reductions. "Briefings before the call to Moscow included no mention of a possible meeting" (link: www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-remark-to-putin-that-they-could-meet-soon-caught-white-house-advisers-by-surprise/2018/03/21/b3e81a66-2d2b-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html ) Good working with @karendeyoung1 and @jdawsey1 on this

And

Andrew deGrandpre
@adegrandpre
An unsettling portrait of the dysfunction in Congress and how lawmakers' distrust of — and disdain for — one another has undermined the investigation into Russian interference in our electoral process. Superb reporting from The Post's @karoun

t.co/OUqCqebptw

merrymouse · 22/03/2018 07:12

You are right boatyard. Trump’s reaction to the Salisbury incident might be a bit more personal.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 07:23

white supremacy:

Austin Statesman
@statesman
BREAKING: #AustinBombings suspect was Pflugerville resident Mark A. Conditt, authorities say (link: atxne.ws/2prhSXk )

rabia O'chaudry
@rabiasquared
This friendly smiling Facebook post is exactly the kind of image the media would also have used if it was a Muslim terrorist. Right?

Also

Qasim Rashid, Esq.
@MuslimIQ
White male privilege is getting better treatment from media as a terrorist—than unarmed black Christians & children do as victims.
#AustinBombing
#BlackLivesMatter

Also

As the Austin bomber sensed that authorities were closing in on him on Tuesday night, he took out his cell phone and recorded a 25-minute video confessing to building the explosive devices -- but didn't explain why he targeted his victims, interim Austin police Chief Brian Manley said.

"It is the outcry of a very challenged young man talking about challenges in his life that led him to this point," the interim chief said. "I know everybody is interested in a motive and understanding why. And we're never going to be able to put a (rationale) behind these acts," Manley told reporters Wednesday night.

Sherrilyn Ifill
@Sifill_LDF
Again, how the police chief talks about a young white man who terrorizes a city. Remember how they talked about innocent Black children like Trayvon, Tamir or young men like Freddy Gray. Police: Austin bomber left 25-minute confession on phone
I believe passionately in acknowledging the humanity of those who commit even terrible crimes. Reading this police chief’s empathy for this young white man highlights the awfulness - the plain awfulness - of the persistent refusal to extend this empathy to young Black people.
The ease with which total innocents like Trayvon, or young Black ppl protesting against injustice are labeled thugs. The way young Black ppl who make mistakes & break the law (at not nearly this level). And the words that are used to dismiss their turmoil, struggle, fears.
We have to confront this. The unwillingness to extend the very minimal assumption of humanity to Black young people. If you can’t do it you shouldn’t wear a shield and carry a gun. If this police chief can do it for Conditt, every ofcr should be able to do it for Black young ppl.
The answer is not to regard the Austin bomber as an animal. But to look at a Black young person as a human child with a story. It shouldn’t be hard.

Also

Melissa McEwan
@Shakestweetz
As a human being who is not a white man, I can't imagine getting this much good faith, ever. And I've never tried to murder people with bombs.

Also

He’s not being labelled a terrorist in the press or by trump

And

White Supremacist Who Claimed He Trained the Parkland, Fla., Shooter Is Arrested, Cries He’s ‘a Good Person’

www.theroot.com/white-supremacist-who-claimed-he-trained-the-parkland-s-1823971902/amp

And

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Alabama Republican Rep. Mike Rogers last week, after Jenniffer González-Colón of Puerto Rico speaks at a hearing: "It's refreshing to finally have a witness who doesn't have an accent." (via C-SPAN) (link: politi.co/2GeVXx1 )

And (I couldn’t face watching this so I haven’t actually seen the video)

Qasim Rashid, Esq.
@MuslimIQ
This is cold blooded execution. They shot #StephonClark 20 times, didn’t call an ambulance, & sat asking each other if they were okay.

Meanwhile an unarmed Clark died in his own backyard.😓

WARNING GRAPHIC VIDEO
#BlackLivesMatter
[video via @KCRAMiller]

mobile.twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/976605306145902592/video/1

And

The Root
@TheRoot
“My number is kill n*ers 101. My name, Johnny Rebel. My profession murdering black people."

13-year-old arrested for leaving racist, terroristic voicemails for Georgia NAACP: (link: trib.al/9CV2FnD )

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
“In politics stupidity is not a handicap.” We know this now! Trump thread cont.
Lweji · 22/03/2018 09:01

I suspect Trump knows what Putin is capable of. Isn't he the one who eats McDonald's for fear someone might poison his food?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 09:43

I think he is! Something to do with germs as well, I thought.

Authorities seize control of bank at center of Malta corruption scandal

Maltese authorities took control of Pilatus Bank that is at the center of a scandal exposed by the murdered journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/iranian-banker-malta-corruption-scandal-money-laundering-charges

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 11:02
  1. Cambridge Analytica detailed how they came up with crooked hillary.
  2. They're not saying that any more because they're saying that you used illegally gained data to target dark ads and direct Russian troll farms to crucial swing voters.

I thought I had lost the ability to be surprised by his idiocy but turns out he has lower depths to plumb! I don't know if I've read this correctly tbh because it seems such a stupid thing to say so it's possible I've misinterpreted this.

Donald J. Trump
‏*@realDonaldTrump*
Remember when they were saying, during the campaign, that Donald Trump is giving great speeches and drawing big crowds, but he is spending much less money and not using social media as well as Crooked Hillary’s large and highly sophisticated staff. Well, not saying that anymore!

Anniegetyourgun · 22/03/2018 11:13

That's got to be a spoof - hasn't it?

Re the Illinois Nazi, where are the Blues Brothers when you need them?

lionheart · 22/03/2018 11:22

Donald J. Trump

Verified account 40 minutes ago

Remember when they were saying, during the campaign, that Donald Trump is giving great speeches and drawing big crowds, but he is spending much less money and not using social media as well as Crooked Hillary’s large and highly sophisticated staff. Well, not saying that anymore!

59m59 minutes ago

Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy. Actually, he is weak, both mentally and physically, and yet he threatens me, for the second time, with physical assault. He doesn’t know me, but he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way. Don’t threaten people Joe!

Democrats refused to take care of DACA. Would have been so easy, but they just didn’t care. I had to fight for Military and start of Wall.


8h8 hours ago

Got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border, rest will be forthcoming. Most importantly, got $700 Billion to rebuild our Military, $716 Billion next year...most ever. Had to waste money on Dem giveaways in order to take care of military pay increase and new equipment.

lionheart · 22/03/2018 11:23

That Biden tweet is something else.

Minimammoth · 22/03/2018 11:23

Could Hillary sue?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 11:29

For context re: biden (don't think this has been posted on here)

Biden: I would have "beat the hell out" of Trump for comments about women

www.cbsnews.com/news/in-high-school-joe-biden-says-he-would-have-beaten-trump-up-for-comments-about-women/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 11:39

Bolton seems like a very dangerous choice of national security adviser. Seems increasingly likely that he will end up as that though. More speculation on this:

Stephanie Ruhle
‏*@SRuhle*
Hearing from inside-There were only 3 people in the room when @realDonaldTrump CONGRATULATED Putin -John Kelly, HR McMAster &Nadia Schadlow.
Kelly is “Furious” abt the leaker.
How do we know Kelly didn’t leak & just wants to frame McMaster, thus forcing the final blow to HR?

JWIM · 22/03/2018 11:54

How do we know it wasn't Trump who 'leaked' his congratulations to Putin? He has little control or understanding about what to say/tweet as President.

OuaisMaisBon · 22/03/2018 12:02

Irrelevant here, but:

BBC Radio 4 Today
‏Verified account @BBCr4today

"I find that disappointing and surprising," says Martin Sutherland, boss of the British company De La Rue.

He's not happy with the government's decision to choose a firm based in France to make the replacement blue UK passports after Brexit. #r4today

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 12:27

This was the assault of protesters by the Turkish security team that was captured on video

Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
Federal prosecutors have dropped charges against 11 of 15 members of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s security team who were accused in connection with the beating of protesters during their visit to Washington last year.

t.co/Td218bzCg9?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 12:36

Greg Sargent
@ThePlumLineGS
The big spending bill does not include a provision that would have protected the Mueller investigation, WaPo reports:

www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/spending-deal-nears-finish-with-some-funds-for-border-wall-but-none-for-ny-tunnel-project/2018/03/21/96d5d19e-2cee-11e8-b0b0-f706877db618_story.html?utm_term=.c4ac9f4ba1e1

Dems had tried to get it inserted, but were rebuffed:

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 13:20

Christopher Wylie
‏*@chrisinsilico*
You’ve heard part of this story from me. It’s time to hear from other, braver, whistleblowers. Please help us speak out by supporting our incredible legal team at @BindmansLLP

www.crowdjustice.com/case/cambridge-analytica-whistleblower/

Carole Cadwalladr
‏*@carolecadwalla*
More Carole Cadwalladr Retweeted Christopher Wylie
IMPORTANT: We have new whistleblowers. Please help them come forward. THANK YOU!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 13:21

Asawin Suebsaeng
@swin24
Last week, Hope Hicks held a staff meeting where she urged WH officials not to leak on each other to the press, backstab, or spread rumors about each other.

(Trump aides noted the irony of leaking details of this part of the meeting to The Daily Beast.)

The Fight to Replace Hope Hicks in the Trump White House Enters Its ‘Smear Campaign Stage’
Even in a White House accustomed to brutal and constant backstabbing, this battle really stands out.

www.thedailybeast.com/the-fight-to-replace-hope-hicks-in-the-trump-white-house-enters-its-smear-campaign-stage

OuaisMaisBon · 22/03/2018 13:48

Trump says he's wrong because of "fake news". (Apologies if this is old news, I don't think it is!)

The Hill
‏Verified account @thehill
3m3 minutes ago

Trump admits his claims about African American unemployment were wrong: "Fake news got me on that one" The Hill

Is this a first?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 14:02

I don't think I can recall another instance of Trump holding up his hands to anything.He even tried to deny that it was him on the Access Hollywood tapes even after he had apologised for them Confused

John Bolton's Curious Appearance In A Russian Gun Rights Video

www.npr.org/2018/03/22/595897412/john-boltons-curious-appearance-in-a-russian-gun-rights-video

cozietoesie · 22/03/2018 14:09

I'm amazed that they even made it to 7% who would carry guns. A Beast poll.

Only 7% of teachers want to carry guns in school

cozietoesie · 22/03/2018 14:10

Sorry. It was a Beast piece but a Gallup poll.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/03/2018 14:26

I can't begin to work out how that would even be feasible. How would it be practical to carry guns in a school?

Mark Zuckerberg is 'sure' that Russia is using Facebook to meddle in the US mid-term elections

uk.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-russia-using-facebook-to-meddle-in-mid-term-elections-2018-3

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