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To wonder if you judge people who work in "crap" jobs, and if so why?

354 replies

ReallyThough100 · 16/03/2018 15:17

So, cleaners, dishwashers, fast food workers. Jobs seen as "dead end" and a bit shit. I have a job people think this about, and it often shows unfortunately (outside of work more than in it).
Aibu to ask, do you judge people who do this and what's the reasoning behind it?

OP posts:
RoundOffFlickFlack · 16/03/2018 16:09

I can't imagine a point where I wouldn't work at all tbh. I can totally imagine myself doing shop work when my circumstances change when I am older (as long as my health is good) because I don't think my pension is going to be enough to live on! I suppose I do judge people in those kind of jobs that hate what they do and just do enough to get through the day because of it, but don't do anything to change their circumstances.

MrsJayy · 16/03/2018 16:10

Thing in these crap jobs keep society ticking over don't they ? So I have no idea why they would be judged, some folk have jobs they don't have careers but they get up go to work every day so people can go for a piss in a clean public toilet they they can pop into costa for their coffee blah de blah.

carefreeeee · 16/03/2018 16:11

I wouldn't think negatively of someone due to the job they did, in the way I might do if they were lazy about their job or had a bad attitude. Some people who have these jobs feel bad about them and will say it's a crap job so maybe there's a bit of projection going on.

It does form part of the overall picture I form of someone, but not in a negative way. In the dating world I personally would not care what job someone did, as long as they were nice, had good manners and were confident. Being unemployed might put me off, depending on the situation/reason.

Luxembourgmama · 16/03/2018 16:11

I judge people who ask other people what they do for a living in the first place. Its such a judgey question and it inevitably is asked my someone deathly dull.

OutyMcOutface · 16/03/2018 16:13

I see, I must admit that i’ve Never really thought that. But then again my parents were an ex dentist and an ex professor working crap jobs toget the bills paid so I guess my experience tells me that most people who do those jobs long term aren’t doing them because they are stupid.

RoundOffFlickFlack · 16/03/2018 16:13

Really, luzembourgmama?? Its a bog standard opening surely? The kind of thing you say to someone to just open up a conversation.

OutyMcOutface · 16/03/2018 16:14

Oh and I would be lost without my housekeeper and the chaos who deliver the shopping. Would be a bit hypocritical to look down on people that I need right?

NoFuckingRoomOnMyBroom · 16/03/2018 16:15

Not at all, every job has a purpose & requires someone to carry it out.
Anyone who thinks this way is a bit of a twat tbh.

Bluntness100 · 16/03/2018 16:17

Are you sure they aren't judging what you do, rather than you?

You can love the person and be respectful of them, but think they have a crap job.

What do you do that's met with such a reaction from those close to you?

dejectedharry · 16/03/2018 16:19

No, I don't because I have a pretty good job but it is very stressful and I long for a job that has little responsibility once you've left work for the day. I often dream about jacking it in for "dead-end job" although I was not as well off I was always happy when I had one.

morningconstitutional2017 · 16/03/2018 16:27

Not at all. Sometimes clever people do jobs like those as there is supposedly less hassle. I've worked in shops, a hospital and many offices doing jobs where brains were required. When I was cleaning my colleagues were just as nice, if not nicer, than some of the stuck-up types in the brainy jobs. People are people, there's good and bad anywhere you care to look.

itstimeforanamechange · 16/03/2018 16:29

I judge people who ask other people what they do for a living in the first place

I agree - it's so they can categorise you in the hierarchy of finances and I guess intelligence too, given some of the posts on here about how people feel about those who work in service industry jobs. There probably is a bit of snobbishness but in a social setting it's probably more about how much money you have, and whether they want anything to with you or not.

Same as cars. People see what car you drive, in particular, how old it is, and accordingly categorise you as worth knowing or not.

It's amazing how people think the amount of money you have is a deciding factor on whether they want to socialise with you!

As for the actual jobs themselves, I do think everyone should have to spend at least six months working in a service job whether retail or catering or similar. It does teach you how the other half live. That said, it also teaches you how you are meant to treat customers, and it's very trying when you get rubbish service in a shop when you know you wouldn't have been allowed to just leave customers waiting.

I worked in a customer-facing role for a year or so a few years ago and I found most people were lovely. Interestingly it was the obviously working parents who used to come in on a Saturday who had the biggest attitude, clearly because they had well paid office jobs in the week.

ButtertubsPass · 16/03/2018 16:30

I feel exactly like dejectedharry, I have a good job, well paid, good benefits, tons of stress. I never sleep through the night and write work things down in the middle of the night when they wake me up. I work lots of unpaid hours which reduces my hourly rate massively.

I can see myself getting to the point of wanting to get my own life balance right and taking a 'dead end' job with less stress if things don't change in the next couple of years.

If anyone judges that let them, my life, my choice.

WeAllHaveWings · 16/03/2018 16:30

You don't need a "better" job, you need better company to hang around with.

HelenaDove · 16/03/2018 16:32

"And what scortja said, people assuming my job is because I’m studying to work in some office. Nope. If people are really so shite at making unwanted conversation to hospitality staff, they need to just stick to the weather"

Speaking of the weather only two weeks ago care workers were walking all the way to work in all that snow One of them died. i have nothing but admiration for people who do these jobs. But when you get threads on here discussing tax credits there is always more than one prat saying that everyone should work their way up out of these jobs.

As posted earlier who would do the caring for the elderly relative so their relative can continue to work if everyone worked their way up.

HelenaDove · 16/03/2018 16:34

"It's amazing how people think the amount of money you have is a deciding factor on whether they want to socialise with you"

Or date you!

Ive seen very recent threads about that.

Sophiesdog11 · 16/03/2018 16:37

We have a neighbour who is very judgemental like this.

When DS - 17 at the time - got his PT retail job - her response was astounding - "well good luck to him working for xxxx", said in a totally uncomplimentary way. I was speechless, couldn't believe the attitude. He was a student, so any weekend job was brilliant.

Now, my son kept that job for 18mths till uni, and did another few months for same company in uni city last year, only giving it up as the long weekend days wouldn't have tied in with his second year commitments. My DD had a similar job for xmas, and will look for another in the early summer, she concentrating on study for now.

Her DS, on the other hand, is 19.5 and hasn't done an hours work in his life. Nothing, zilch, spends all his spare time, when not studying, on gaming. Yet she still thought my DS' job was crap and said as much. But my kids are laughing, given the money they have both earned, whereas her DS has nothing (and no bank of mum and dad, they are complete misers. The sort who will let you buy them a drink then get water when its their round!).

She is same about education. Only top marks, top unis and top jobs will do. The fact she is in a job that could be done without a degree seems to pass her by. She is very snotty about anyone who doesn't go to uni and just does a basic job.

She is nice in all other respects, just very snobby about work and uni (and mean!)

crunchyslippers · 16/03/2018 16:38

I don't judge them

however, I do judge those who do 'crappy' jobs, and moan about them without trying to better themselves

I have a fb friend who moans every time about her job that she has been doing for over 10years- she has no dependants, lives with family, no reason for not trying something new or evening classes or anything

WellTidy · 16/03/2018 16:40

Absolutely not. I worked in the checkout in a supermarket when I was 17 and doing my a levels. I was scanning a family's goods, they were a mum, dad and a say three year old sitting in the trolley. The three year old was fascinated by the scanning, conveyer belt, everything basically and said to his mum, in awe, that he wanted to work on the till when he grew up. Mum says in a really snooty voice 'we hope you will do better than that' or something very similar. The dad was mortified. I engineered a conversation with him when said that I was off to university that autumn, but that working here was great in itself. The mum basically ignored me completely. She made me feel awful, and I shouldn't have let her. That was 25 years ago.

The hardest work I have ever done is bad work and chambermaidimg. Both jobs paid the least out of any others I have done.

MsVestibule · 16/03/2018 16:42

I used to have a Proper Job where I would stride across airports with a briefcase and had swingy hair. I then had two children, gave up work for a few years, and I'm now in a very basic admin job with very flexible hours. In between, I was a cleaner.

I've wondered whether people judged me - my friends couldn't care less what I do, but I bet some of my ex-colleagues would think 'Really???'.

I don't judge people at all for having a low skilled, low paid job, but TBH, if I was doing online dating again, I probably wouldn't choose somebody who'd always had one of those jobs. It's certainly not because I would be looking for somebody to support me - more that I'd be less likely to be attracted to a man in his 40s/50s who had never had any career ambition.

JoJoSM2 · 16/03/2018 16:45

OP, weird comments you've had. But tbh if a friend I consider clever went for a NMW job that requires no qualifications, I'd be surprised too. Wouldn't think 'too good' but would probably ask if you didn't want whatever job you're suited to that pays 3x as much.

KennDodd · 16/03/2018 16:49

I get a real bee in my bonnet about so called "dead end" or menial jobs. These are absolutely essential jobs in most cases and they need to be recognised as such. Society would suffer much more if we lost bin men and supermarket shelve stackers than we would if we lost astronauts and brain surgeons. This isn't to say we don't need astronauts and brain surgeons, we all play our role and should be valued for the essential jobs we do.

Having said all that, would I rather my child grew up and became an astronaut or a bin man? Well, I'd rather they we're an astronaut.

DioneTheDiabolist · 16/03/2018 16:50

No. I don't have the money or the breeding to judge or look down on anyone.Grin

Xmasbaby11 · 16/03/2018 16:53

I might judge if I knew they were in the job for years and not trying to improve their situation. I might just feel sorry for them. Depends on the situation really.

AvoidingDM · 16/03/2018 16:53

Yes. In a positive way at least they are working rather than claiming benefits.

However it did surprise me when my new cleaner appeared and she was just in her teens I thought it was an odd job for somebody so young. Yes it came out eventually she was a student.

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