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To wonder if you judge people who work in "crap" jobs, and if so why?

354 replies

ReallyThough100 · 16/03/2018 15:17

So, cleaners, dishwashers, fast food workers. Jobs seen as "dead end" and a bit shit. I have a job people think this about, and it often shows unfortunately (outside of work more than in it).
Aibu to ask, do you judge people who do this and what's the reasoning behind it?

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Devora13 · 23/03/2018 18:33

Those who make this kind of judgment:
-Are usually what I call 'wannabes' who never quite fit in anywhere, and half a false sense of how those higher up the social scale behave. Keeping Up Appearances types. My mother worked in service as a girl, for a farmer and then a doctor. Both employers considered her job important, and treated her like one of the family (she always got the same meals as them, for example).
-Have self esteem issues and can only identify themselves, and others, through a fancy, and often meaningless, job title.
-Fail to recingnise that people doing these jobs are often much happier in life, as they have time for a life.
-Are offering a real service to real people.
-May in fact be trying to fit in with jobs that allow them to support, and actually spend time, with their families.
-May be dissing the next JK Rowling's or other creative genius who is just making ends meet while they get recognised.

ConstantReminder · 23/03/2018 18:39

No. People working in an honest job ~ why would you look down on them? Layabouts or job dodgers ~ these I’d have a view on!

BoomBoomsCousin · 23/03/2018 18:39

I've worked several of those jobs (cleaner, retail, call centre) and I use those services too, so I know that people that do them well are valuable. I definitely don't think less of people that do them. However, I do sort of judge some people who constantly complain about their jobs and do nothing to change their prospects, and that mainly seems to be people in these types of jobs (this might be largely because of who I grew up with/hang out with, though). But I'm much more likely to judge people who do unethical work than people who don't like their job and stick with it.

BunsyGirl · 23/03/2018 18:41

I only judge people who moan about what they are doing but don’t do anything to change it.

TeknoGran · 23/03/2018 18:42

Isn’t it the middle class greeting? And what do you DO? so I can make my judgement on you nice and quick and move on to someone better if your occupation doesn’t meet my standards. Twats!

Devora13 · 23/03/2018 18:43

I've come to realise anyone who wants to know what your job is early on in a conversation is pretty shallow.

Devora13 · 23/03/2018 18:49

RoundOffFlickFlack
Only if you're very lacking in imagination or social skills...

WontLetThoseRobotsDefeatMe · 23/03/2018 18:50

I've read halfway through but have to reply - people don't need to have had a high flying career to then justify having a poor paying, manual or indeed menial, job.

These jobs are fucking important - to health, social care, and for SO many people, to their leisure and entertainment. (Ok, not a necessity but I think it would be missed!).

My fabulous partner has been a fabricator, welder, sound tech and now does electrical repairs. He earns and always has done, minimum wage ish, does ridiculously technical things, works often unsociable hours. He has minimal GCSEs and a technical qualification. He has a big bunch if customers who ask for him. He is judged for having a crap job.

I judge the judgers.

WithTwoGiantBoys · 23/03/2018 19:02

I once cut short a date and went home because the chap was rude to someone who was doing a job like this. I'm glad I didn't have to spend more time on him before finding out he was an arsehole.

Devora13 · 23/03/2018 19:03

wanderings, loved that book. Especially the bit where she pointed out that the two project engineering teams had mismatched their measurements and the two parts didn't fit!

TeaAddict235 · 23/03/2018 19:03

there are lots of Crap people in higher powered jobs through the old boys club and sucking up

^ this x infinity, e.g. Donald trump and other Tim-nice-but-dim types

that's what we really should be looking at. Why are there so many rubbish people in great positions of power, without even the capability to do simple KS2 maths/ English/ science etc. I did my phd with an idiot someone who couldn't use Excel for maths! wtf?? To get data she would take screen shots using F12 or with her phone. but for the professors she was eye candy, or "easy on the eyes" as one HOD put it. Confused

I don't care if others judge me for my temporary/current role, if they do that then they are not the deciders of my destiny. The jobs that we do today help to build us for the roles we undertake tomorrow. And if we are in management positions tomorrow, understanding the graft that those with the lesser respected roles do, helps us to relate and appreciate.

TeaAddict235 · 23/03/2018 19:06

@technogran,

agree agree agree with

Isn’t it the middle class greeting? And what do you DO? so I can make my judgement on you nice and quick and move on to someone better if your occupation doesn’t meet my standards. Twats!

bobstersmum · 23/03/2018 19:06

No definitely not, a job is a job!

ChocoholicsAsylum · 23/03/2018 19:09

Well I wipe alot of arses for a living as well as blood, vomit etc and I look down on myself... I need a better job, getting a bit sick of it now

Tinycitrus · 23/03/2018 19:10

I’ve had a crap job working nights in a call centre to make ends meet - did it for two years when my children were very small and DP lost his job due to recession.

I now have a ‘good’ job, much better pay and prospects and I love it.

People treat me differently. Especially middle class liberal types who don’t quite know how to relate to someone in a McJob. It seems to upset them.

Conversations involved a lot of head tilting when I was in the call centre job and slot of ‘oh do you know so-and-so’ in the new job.

Working class people get that you need to earn money and talk to you just fine.

But don’t be fooled - you are being judged.

SingingOutOfTune · 23/03/2018 19:23

I think people do judge. They think less of people if they do a job that's is considered beneath their own occupation. I am not in one of those jobs but feel judged by people that are in more advanced career positions than me. And not many professional will have a cleaner or till worker among their friends.

FaveNumberIs2 · 23/03/2018 19:32

People look down on me because of my job, until they find out I get 13 weeks holiday every year, never work bank holidays or weekends, guaranteed never to work at Christmas, finish at 2.30 and never get caught in rush hour traffic.

That said, it’s a physically demanding job.

EveryoneLovesRaymond · 23/03/2018 19:55

I have friends in low paid jobs and I have friends with very well paid jobs. I just don't have friends who judge and look down their noses at other people.

Hamilton13 · 23/03/2018 20:09

I used to work somewhere really demanding mentally and now I have ds I don't want to come home thinking about anything work related. I am looking for something that is quick in and out work then home with all my brain power left for family. No I would never judge but people always will Confused

SingingOutOfTune · 23/03/2018 20:09

I don't think it has much to do with pay level and more with status.

Studentwife · 23/03/2018 20:40

I met someone years ago who told me in great detail that she was a barrister and her husband was a surgeon. When I was asked what we did, I told her I was a teacher and my husband is a barber with his own salon, from that day on she never said one word to me.😱 Some people are just knobs!

cheval · 23/03/2018 20:41

And interestingly, many of the jobs that may be looked down upon are primarily done by women....

TeaAddict235 · 23/03/2018 20:49

I'm not sure @cheval, lots of white van men jobs are looked down upon, think of tradesmen and window cleaners etc

StillMedusa · 23/03/2018 21:02

I recently changed from a poorly paid but 'admirable' job (working with disabled children) to a better paid but definitely hated job (listed here earlier!)
I have a good degree, had a fantastic grammar school education, but chose to stay home with my children and to take jobs which worked around them. No ambition...I like to earn, pay my way but have never been concerned with status.
My closest friend earns a six figure salary, but has no time to enjoy it, ad I don't envy her.

My children have all helped support themselves with low paid jobs through 6th form and University, and my youngest works in ASDA.. and as he is autistic with learning disabilties I could not be prouder of him!

Haven't decided whether to admit to people what my new job IS yet tho Grin
Everyone hates me, but you would not want me to not do my job!

cheval · 23/03/2018 21:03

True @TeaAddict235 although I'm in awe of tradespeople, as I can’t fix a thing. Also window cleaners, ladders terrify me!

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