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To send my daughter to boarding school?

188 replies

Salouport · 03/03/2018 12:42

I feel sick....and please be gentle as I don’t know where to turn and I haven’t eaten for days out of worry.
My daughter is the eldest of four. She along with her brother is from my first marriage, and I had another two children when I remarried. My dd1 has always had good contact with her dad, who is in a solid relationship with a lovely lady who has no children. DD1 also has a fairly good relationship with step dad, although in her view, we are probably more “strict” than she would like. She is in her first year of 6th form and is doing very well academically. She also competes at a national level in sport (won’t say which one as it might “out” me.)
She has always had a problem with telling a “tall story” and lying in order to get out of trouble. Things such as lying about her whereabouts, or why was late home etc. Obviously I know that lots of teenagers do this, and it is a part of growing up. She is a bit of a drama queen, and has managed to make several “storm in a tea-cup” type situations over the past couple of years. She is fairly good at making new friends and maintaining her friendships. She thrives on new experiences.
The problem is that she got a job when she turned 16, and through that she has been introduced to a crowd of people, and in particular a boy, who have encouraged her to make some really silly decisions. She has been caught lying to get her own way (like saying she is studying at a friends house, when in fact she has been working a late night shift...we want to follow the school’s guidelines roughly about the number of hours a week a sixth former works, as ultimately, her education is the most important thing, and she is very keen to go to uni). Again, this has caused an argument, but nothing more than I guess being held across most households with 16 year old girls.
The boy comes from a very unstable background and lives at home with no boundaries whatsoever. Dd loves spending time there, and gets on with his family, including his sister who is about 20. There are lots of siblings in the house, many of whom dont work, but have children...it’s all just chaotic.
A few months ago, Dd dropped a grade and I was asked to the school to discuss, which I did. I was asked about changes at home, which there wasn’t, but I mentioned the boyfriend and discovered he was an ex pupil. I was basically told that the teachers felt that he would not be a good influence on her, due to the unmotivated and chaotic lifestyle the family have. I discussed this with Dd, but I respect her decisions to chose her own friends, and I think that it’s good to mix with a variety of types of people.
Strange things continue to happen, such as the boyfriend sleeping in his car outside the house all night, and him continually trying to get her to move in with him....
A few weeks ago the boyfriend had a couple of “seizures” at work. No previous history of things like that. He was blue lighted to hospital on both occasions, but nothing has shown up on any tests yet. I strongly suspect that these seizures were faked, due to the timings of them (both at the start of dd’s half term / end of term), so I think he had thoughts of her spending time with him, and he also wanted to “test” to see if she would accompany him to hospital. He is very needy.
After these episodes, we spoke to Dd about not travelling in his car, as he would not be insured until the reasons for his seizures have been fully investigated. She promised she wouldn’t.
Last Sunday, she was caught by chance getting into his car, by her step father. He sent him on his way and sent Dd into the house. I decided to drive to the boyfriends house to try to explain our reasons. I have been driving the pair of them about myself, and driving Dd to his house, and she’s got the bus on occasion, so this was not a way of getting them to stop seeing each other.
Once I arrived at the house, I had barely started talking and I was being called by my husband to return home immediately. The boyfriend and one of his sisters were standing in the street outside our home screaming that our Dd was being held against her will, they were concerned for her safety and the police had been called. He then calls again, saying that they were shouting out that my husband had abused my daughter.....
I get home, husband had managed to get rid of them, and they were sitting having a calm conversation. The abuse thing was an utter lie, which Dd had confided into the sister in. The only truthful aspect of it was when she asked my husband if her backside looked big in some leggings she wore, he commented that it looked big. I KNOW this was an inappropriate response, it was several months ago, and it does not constitute sexual abuse. The police came round, we’re surprised to see us having a calm chat, rather than having her tied up somewhere. They told us the family were “known” and they had a fondness for calling ambulances and the police on a regular basis. Part of the conversation involved moving forward, and it was agreed that Dd should go and spend time with her dad.
After the police had gone, my husband broke down and sobbed. He was distraught that the girl he has loved and bought up from 4 could make these allegations, and probably did so in order to get her own way. She was told she was loved, but all need some time.
She has now been with her dad for a week. It’s been the worst week of both our lives. He has a job which means he is away 3-4 nights a week, and his girlfriend, although lovely, is not sure she can deal with my Dd. It is an hour bus ride to school (but her dad has been driving her in) but she feels isolated from her friends. I am not too bothered about the fact that she’s had a miserable week, she made up a malicious sexual abuse allegation, for which she needs to see the consequences of.
There is no way she can return home here for a while. The police, her school, and social services (who closed the case after a five minute call) all agree that she needs to be away from her step dad for a period of time.
We are therefore stuck. Obviously she wants to live with the boyfriend which won’t happen, and even she recognises that it would not be good in the long run. She has managed to alienate a lot of her friends due to attention seeking behaviour since being with the boy, so she can’t stay with them.
My brother works in an international boarding school in Denmark, and has offered to proxy-parent her if she were to attend. I’ve mentioned the prospect to her and she seems keen. She loves new experiences, and she feels that she could “start afresh”. Although she would “lose” her first year of A levels, she would instead study the IB, an alternative, which would in fact open more doors for her. Family travel to Denmark often, and we live very close to an airport with cheap flights, so she could return home twice monthly if she wanted to.
I just don’t know what to do? She’s a lovely girl, whom I tell daily that I love, but she has lost her way. Strangely, it does not seem to bother her being away from the boyfriend in order to go to Denmark, but she desperately does not want to change schools to one nearer her dad.
Thank you for reading. I feel utterly utterly shit.

OP posts:
Dungeondragon15 · 03/03/2018 17:12

It could mean that DD confessed to the sister of the bf that it was a lie, or it could mean that DD confessed of the abuse to the sister which OP claims was a lie.

Yes, OP needs to clarify. I'm being to see why her friends may not be totally supportive regarding the DD going to boarding school.

Dungeondragon15 · 03/03/2018 17:13

Sorry, cross posted...

Dungeondragon15 · 03/03/2018 17:17

Okay, I'm back to thinking boarding school is a fantastic idea as long as the DD wants to go. My own children would jump at the chance (if we could afford it).

Salouport · 03/03/2018 17:18

Sorry, just realised another point I wanted to clarify. At no point did the police insist that Dd was removed from the house. In fact, she did actually stay at home that evening and she was driven to her dads the next day. They thought it was a “good idea” in order to give both of them some space.

OP posts:
SockMobster · 03/03/2018 17:19

OP, this just doesn't make sense - sorry - your DH should not be visibly shocked over an inappropriate comment he did make, and you said he was having a calm conversation before the police arrived. Was it the
arrival of the police that shocked him? If he was calm with her originally, I still see no reason she wouldn't be allowed home by the police (particularly as she may not have been the one to make any allegation).

"The “twisting” of this fact into an allegation of abuse happened either by Dd during a conversation with the sister of the boyfriend, or by the sister of the boyfriend herself"

You still do not know who made the allegation - whether it was your DD, or the boyfriend, or the boyfriend's sister, and you are now one week into this mess. Surely you would have realised that was paramount to understand first of all?

SockMobster · 03/03/2018 17:22

"The police, her school, and social services (who closed the case after a five minute call) all agree that she needs to be away from her step dad for a period of time. "

This is from your OP. There is a huge difference between "needs to be away" and "good idea" to be away - regardless - it still poses the huge question of why the police are advocating a family unit are split up.

I think you need to speak to your daughter, and get her counselling immediately.

Good luck.

CapnHaddock · 03/03/2018 17:23

The more you post, the more I think she should go. But you should go and visit her on those cheap flights, at least for a while, rather than her coming home.

Slanetylor · 03/03/2018 17:24

Is she is worried about her stepdad not giving her away on her wedding day she is not secure of her place in the family.
It's your job to make her secure by not sending her away.

crunchymint · 03/03/2018 17:25

Okay OP, there really is no reason for your DD not to come home and I am concerned that you have taken this approach. Fine for her to go to boarding school, but let her come home.

Beanteam · 03/03/2018 17:26

I would have thought he was shocked at the fact that DD could do this to him and that these people could scream at him from the street!

crunchymint · 03/03/2018 17:28

And you don't banish your child because of fears about what may happen.
It is common in a family argument with older teenagers with parents who have split up, to advise a bit of separation for everything to calm down. But this does not mean saying she can never come home.
Also she did not lie. She said to the sister what happened and it sounds as if that family have made into a drama.

crunchymint · 03/03/2018 17:29

DD hasn't done anything to him.

Beanteam · 03/03/2018 17:36

It keeps her away from obsessed boyfriend.

SockMobster · 03/03/2018 17:41

"I would have thought he was shocked at the fact that DD could do this to him and that these people could scream at him from the street"

Hang on, man makes inappropriate comment to daughter, daughter tells friend, friend escalates the situation to abuse and somehow "his DD has done this to him". Get a bloody grip.

At this stage, because the OP hasn't talk to her DD to clarify anything the DD has done nothing wrong. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

LizzieSiddal · 03/03/2018 17:58

She is an intelligent girl, she knows she’s made a huge error with this relationship and the incident with stepfather, and wants to make a new start. I’d let her go 100%.

Lucked · 03/03/2018 18:02

She needs some sort of long lasting contraception, an implantable device or coil.

Can she have s proper visit to Denmark and the school at Easter and start sooner. My concern about August is that it is so far away he will change her mind before then.

crunchymint · 03/03/2018 18:04

I feel really sorry for her and I can see why your friends OP disagree with what you want to do.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 03/03/2018 18:06

She should get away while she still can. She doesn't want to fuck up her whole life tied to this family just because she's made some iffy decisions when she was 16.

Show this thread to your DD. She's been a bit of a plonker- but she should seize every chance she can in life. This can only work to her benefit!

Mumdimsum · 03/03/2018 18:07

Send her to boarding school, what an amazing opportunity for her and will give her an opportunity to spread her wings!

Dipitydoda · 03/03/2018 18:13

Sounds like she is looking for a way out of her current situation but far too cool to rely on parents. Going to Denmark would obviously look far cooler. Let her go

DarthArts · 03/03/2018 18:23

Thanks for the update OP.

It hasn't changed my opinion from that given in my first post - if anything it's reinforced my view that boarding school the best option because:

  • it reignites the possibility of studying medicine
  • if she goes in August and hates it there is a solid back up plan where she can come back and continue her A levels
  • BF and family sound toxic not just to your DD but also your wider family. Whilst she is in their circle the opportunities for them to do significant harm in order to get her to move in would be a massive source of worry.

Even if she goes and comes back, just having a month away could provide the clarity to distance herself from the BF even if she come home.

As to the posters criticising your DH, I'm flabbergasted that you think being deeply distressed about such an allegation is odd. Having someone yelling such accusations outside your home must have been awful.

I don't get the impression DD was being malicious as such, rather that she's been manipulated into "securing" reasons as to why she should move in with BF. If they are willing to go to such lengths to do that I'd be very keen indeed to get her away from that environment.

milliemolliemou · 03/03/2018 18:31

Sock Have you read the thread? OP had apparently gone to her daughter's boyfriend's house to explain why they had banned her from her boyfriend's car since he'd been having seizures, only to find boyfriend and his sister was screaming abuse outside their home about her daughter being imprisoned and abused and had called the police. So OP's 2nd husband was undoubtedly in shock - and presumably hugely upset prior to the police arriving. The police said the boyfriend and his family had form. Social services closed the book.

I understand your concerns since there could just be a dark side to this I, too, would be advising the OP to get her daughter therapy ASAP especially before letting her transit to a boarding school abroad.

crunchymint · 03/03/2018 18:32

But why ban your own DD from your house? That is what I don't understand.

youarenotkiddingme · 03/03/2018 18:34

Of course her step dad was visibly shocked.

Whatever the truth of the situation - mud sticks. Anyone in the neighbourhood who heard - and is not party to the truth or the outcome of the situation will form their own opinions. That can be damaging.

This is why there's a call to protect people arrested on sexual offences until they are convicted.

The far wider consequences of this situation can be the most damaging.

Trying to find what's best for everyone is not a path well trod.

Softkitty2 · 03/03/2018 18:34

Do you realise how serious those allegations are? Your dh could have lost everything!

If I were your db i would be wary of her as she can make the same allegations against him. No way would I be taking her.