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Trump talk: HOW MUCH for that inauguration?

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PerkingFaintly · 27/02/2018 17:57

Shock We can start whole new threads for less than $26,000,000.

This one only cost 23p I found down the back of the sofa:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3171217-Trump-Talk-or-Lift-every-voice-and-sing?pg=1

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Melania Trump has parted ways with adviser Stephanie Winston Wolkoff after news broke about Wolkoff’s firm reaping $26,000,000 in payments to help plan Trump’s inauguration, NYT reports.
www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/us/politics/melania-trump-inauguration-adviser.html

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 07:49

Since then, he’s said he’ll comply

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 07/03/2018 08:16

How strangely pervy does this sound? -

The US president said America would levy tariffs in a "loving, loving way".

"They'll like us better and they'll respect us more," he said about US trade partners who object to the plan.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43307796

boatyardblues · 07/03/2018 08:23

I am still following the thread but at the mo, my responses are primarily mute eyerolls and grimaces which don’t make for good posting. As ever, I am grateful to our peolific news hounds. Thank you! Flowers

boatyardblues · 07/03/2018 08:23

Prolific

Lweji · 07/03/2018 10:50

Breaking news on late night shows: Cohn goes.

"Trump resignation fantasy league" - we should start one

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 12:15

Kyle Griffin
‏*@kylegriffin1*
Inbox: James Comey will be a guest on ‘The Late Show with Stephen Colbert’ Tuesday, April 17.

cozietoesie · 07/03/2018 13:00

Oh My Goodness. Lweji will have to find a darkened room when she reads that. Grin

OuaisMaisBon · 07/03/2018 14:09

Is this important?
Stormy Daniels

cozietoesie · 07/03/2018 14:16

I think it will depend how 'Mother' (and her coffee klatch) view it, Ouais. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 14:21

Haven't done a "look at all the racist things happening" collection in awhile. Here's a roundup of some of the things from the last week:

Some good news

ICE releases mother it detained for months far away from 7-year-old daughter
www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/07/ice-releases-mother-it-detained-four-months-far-away-from-7-year-old-daughter/?utm_term=.6a9fb43ce6be

On Tuesday, immigration officials appeared to bend halfway in favor of the family’s lawyers, abruptly releasing the mother from custody at the Otay Mesa Detention Center in San Diego. The girl, however, remains in the custody of the Office of Refugee Resettlement in Chicago, and the pair are still awaiting reunification, the ACLU said. It is unclear when the mother and daughter might be reunited.

“We are thrilled that the mother has been released and look forward to the government immediately reuniting her with her daughter,” Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU’s Immigrants’ Rights Project, said in a statement. “But there remain many other families who have been separated, and we will continue to attack this horrific family separation practice.”

The woman’s release came under orders “from up top” in the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Gelernt told the Associated Press. A spokesman from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday night.

“This case hit a nerve for a lot of people because its so unconscionable what this government has done … to separate a mother from her daughter for no reason at all,” Judy Rabinovitz, deputy director of the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project, told The Washington Post in an interview Wednesday morning. “Obviously DHS was feeling some pressure.”

Last week’s lawsuit drew national headlines and intense scrutiny from immigration advocates. The case underscored Trump’s crackdown on immigration and marked a shift from previous administrations, which detained families but did not forcibly separate parents from their young children, the ACLU said in its lawsuit.

Now for the not so good stuff:

Legal stuff

Matt Cameron 🗽 #CleanDREAMActNow
‏*@matt*_cam
1/ BREAKING: @TheJusticeDept has just authorized immigration judges to deny #asylum applications without a hearing. Like most Trump-era administrative violence, it has been unnoticed & unreported.

sound of Scotch pouring into glass

THREAD

#TrumpImmigration #HereToStay

2/ Important context: As head of @TheJusticeDept, the Attorney General has final say over all cases before the administrative #immigration courts. AG may snatch a case away from the Board of Immigration Appeals anytime and decide it himself by directing BIA to refer it to him.
[rest of thread: twitter.com/matt_cam/status/970863029276602368]

More Qasim Rashid, Esq. Retweeted Matt Cameron 🗽 #CleanDREAMActNow
Read & RT this thread. While WH demands “Due Process” for white men who serially abuse women—the DOJ just eliminated the right to due process for asylum applicants facing life or death situations.

This is all in addition to cancelling DACA. Media has remained largely silent.😐

And

Lois Beckett
‏*@loisbeckett*
“White male journalists are particularly vulnerable to the idea that these guys are fighting for free speech." Vice's Elle Reeve talks to @OntheMedia about mistakes journalists make when covering white supremacists: www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/05/how-should-the-media-cover-americas-racist-extremists

illustration of how the rhetoric is just that - not based on facts and used to fearmonger:

Trump says American workers are hurt by immigration. But after ICE raided this Texas town, they never showed up.
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/trump-says-american-workers-are-hurt-by-immigration-but-after-ice-raided-this-texas-town-they-never-showed-up/2018/03/04/8ce16362-1d65-11e8-ae5a-16e60e4605f3_story.html?__twitter_impression=true

CNN
‏*@CNN*
A Florida middle school teacher secretly ran a white supremacist podcast. In a statement through her attorney, she claimed her comments were "political satire and exaggeration" and that the persona was a "hobby."

And

Deadly Connection: Neo-Nazi Group Linked To 3 Accused Killers
www.npr.org/2018/03/06/590292705/5-killings-3-states-and-1-common-neo-nazi-link?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180306

At first glance, five killings in three states since last May appeared to be unrelated, isolated cases.

But a common thread is emerging. Three young men have been charged, and all appear to have links to the same white supremacist group: the Atomwaffen Division.

Atomwaffen is German for "atomic weapons," and the group is extreme. It celebrates Adolf Hitler and Charles Manson, its online images are filled with swastikas, and it promotes violence.

Florida Killings: Radical Islam And The Far Right, Under One Roof
NATIONAL SECURITY
Florida Killings: Radical Islam And The Far Right, Under One Roof
One of the group's videos shows young men, wearing scarves over their faces and camouflage, firing rifles during military-style training. The video begins with group members shouting in unison, "Race War Now," and concludes with the tag line, "Join Your Local Nazis."

"Atomwaffen no doubt takes some of the white supremacist rhetoric to another level. The views that they articulate are white supremacists on steroids," said Joanna Mendelson, who follows extremist groups for the Anti-Defamation League in Los Angeles.

"And what is the change they want to see? Real-world violence. Real-world apocalyptic violence," she added. [...]

And

Ryan J. Reilly
@ryanjreilly
A white supremacist caught in a FBI sting wanted to do something “in the spirit of Dylann Roof” on a “big fucking scale.” He bought a gun from a guy he thought was an Aryan Nations member. Under his plea deal, he’s unlikely do much prison time.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/white-supremacist-ben-mcdowell-fbi-doj_us_5a9f0cb2e4b0e9381c131eb9

And

Hate groups using similar online recruiting methods as ISIS, experts say

abcnews.go.com/US/hate-groups-similar-online-recruiting-methods-isis-experts/story?id=53528932&cid=social_twitter_abcn

Some alt-right and white supremacist groups are using the same online recruiting tactics pioneered by ISIS, al Qaeda and other foreign-based extremist groups to grow their ranks.

John Cohen, an ABC News consultant and former acting Homeland Security undersecretary, notes that many of these groups – both foreign and domestic – appeal to the same type of person in the same type of way.

"All of these extremist groups promote an agenda that focuses on fighting those who are victimizing them and that resonates with these individuals who all believe that they have personally been victimized in their own lives," Cohen said in an interview.

And

Tennessee school removes Confederate flag, lynching murals
edition.cnn.com/2018/03/05/us/hanging-confederate-mural/index.html

And

Cornell student facing deportation after sucker-punching black man in ‘come fight us, n*gger’ attack
www.rawstory.com/2018/03/cornell-student-facing-deportation-sucker-punching-black-man-come-fight-us-ngger-attack/#.Wp7S1SCn_NY.twitter

And

Bodycam Video Shows North Carolina Officer Beating Black Man Accused Of Jaywalking
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/north-carolina-officer-beats-black-man-accused-of-jaywalking-in-bodycam-video_us_5a9990ace4b0479c02520ffb

And

‘I’m white. I can kill you — nothing will happen’: Woman attacks black actor with beer bottle after racist tirade

www.rawstory.com/2018/03/im-white-can-kill-nothing-will-happen-woman-attacks-black-actor-beer-bottle-racist-tirade/

Lweji · 07/03/2018 14:29

Lweji will have to find a darkened room when she reads that.

Not really. I only get Colsgarms. Comey does very little for me. Unless he has some juicy news.

Wine
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 14:38

I wouldn't mind a Comey for my yoni Wink

Russian Influence Campaign Extracted Americans’ Personal Data
Operators used social media to pitch fake business directories, petitions in return for information

www.wsj.com/articles/russian-influence-campaign-extracted-americans-personal-data-1520418600

All the Facebook account Black4Black asked for was some personal information about Ajah Hales and other Cleveland-area small-business owners. In exchange, she was told her cosmetics company, and her fellow African-American entrepreneurs, would receive free promotion on social media and in a new and influential directory of black-owned businesses.

Ms. Hales soon turned over basic information about her company, as well as names, phone numbers, email addresses and websites of dozens of black business owners in and around Cleveland.

“I was actually really excited about the opportunity,” she said.

That was in early 2017. It wasn’t until recently, after being contacted by The Wall Street Journal, that Ms. Hales would learn that Black4Black and “partner” groups, including BlackMattersUS, were among hundreds of Facebook and Instagram accounts set up by a pro-Kremlin propaganda agency to meddle in American politics, Facebook records show.

The fake directory is one example of the elaborate schemes that Russian “trolls” have pursued to try to collect personal and business information from Americans, the Journal has found. Leveraging social media, Russians have collected data by peddling niche business directories, convincing activists to sign petitions and bankrolling self-defense training classes in return for student information.

It isn’t clear for what purpose the data were collected, but intelligence and cybersecurity experts say it could be used for identity theft or leveraged as part of a wider political-influence effort that didn’t end with the 2016 election. That operation is a focus of special counsel Robert Mueller’s wide-ranging probe, which has returned more than a dozen indictments of Russians as well as several American associates of now-President Donald Trump.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 14:40

Trump Fundraiser's Email Breach Shows Risks Before Midterms

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-06/hack-of-republican-fundraiser-broidy-shows-risks-before-midterms

A top Republican fundraiser for Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign learned last week that his email accounts had been hacked, sowing concerns that document leaks could roil another national U.S. election cycle.

Elliott Broidy, a deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee, became aware of the problem when a reporter asked about some of his private messages, said his attorney, Christopher Clark. Broidy then alerted law-enforcement officials, who are now investigating the breach of his private and business emails.

Some news organizations have cited Broidy’s communications in articles over the past week, describing how he sought to use his political ties to advance his business interests and those of foreign leaders. More embarrassing revelations could follow. All the information will be released soon on “the dark web,” according to a note accompanying emails sent to Bloomberg.

Documents released so far place Broidy in the inner circle of Republican money men. They include photos of Broidy, a Los Angeles money manager with investments in Israel, at a fundraiser for the pro-Israel Republican Jewish Coalition, standing alongside casino magnate Steve Wynn, who was until recently the RNC’s fundraising chairman, and RJC President Norm Coleman, a former U.S. senator from Minnesota. Broidy and his wife also cultivated ties with Ed Royce, an Orange County congressman who heads the House Foreign Affairs Committee, according to the emails.

The dissemination of Broidy’s personal emails echoes an episode that still reverberates through national news and politics. The public disclosure of messages sent by John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, in the summer of 2016 helped spur a U.S. probe into Russian meddling in the presidential election.

In this case, Broidy has blamed the hack on agents of Qatar. Citing information from the intelligence community and law enforcement personnel, Broidy told Qatar’s ambassador in Washington in a letter on March 3 that he had “discovered the identities of the U.S. citizen and foreign actors your government hired and directed in these operations." Some of the agents were paid “‘under the table’ in violation of several U.S. and state laws," he wrote.

Qatar denied Broidy’s claim that it had engaged in “hostile intelligence against United States citizens through registered and unregistered agents.” Each side has threatened legal action against the other. [...]

Amy Siskind
‏*@Amy*_Siskind
Broidy, who sent encrypted emails to Nader and the crown prince of UAE about his meetings with Trump and other WH officials now finds his account has been hacked. This could be interesting.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 14:49

Ben Carson Removes Anti-Discrimination Language From HUD Mission Statement

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/hud-mission-statement_us_5a9f5db0e4b002df2c5ec617

WASHINGTON ― Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is changing the mission statement of his agency, removing promises of inclusive and discrimination-free communities.

In a March 5 memo addressed to HUD political staff, Amy Thompson, the department’s assistant secretary for public affairs, explained that the statement is being updated “in an effort to align HUD’s mission with the Secretary’s priorities and that of the Administration.”

The new mission statement reads:

HUD’s mission is to ensure Americans have access to fair, affordable housing and opportunities to achieve self-sufficiency, thereby strengthening our communities and nation

[...]The Carson mission statement is quite different from the current one, which is still up on HUD’s website. That one promises “strong, sustainable, inclusive communities and quality affordable homes for all.” It also says these communities will be “free from discrimination”:

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 14:49

Ida Bae Wells
‏*@nhannahjones*

  1. This is ridiculous. HUD's mandate is to enforce the Fair Housing Act and the 1964 Civil Rights Act. 2) How is self-sufficiency the opposite of anti-discrimination? It is hard to be self-sufficient when you are denied housing in high-opportunity areas because of your race. By the way, this is how HUD commemorates the 50th anniversary of the Fair Housing Act.
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2018 15:00

Re: replacing Cohn

Maggie Haberman
‏*@maggieNYT*
What the president is saying about his ability to have his pick of top people for any job is false. Several "top people" have declined to be interviewed.

OuaisMaisBon · 07/03/2018 15:56

"I think it will depend how 'Mother' (and her coffee klatch) view it."
I'm sorry, cozietozie I saw a reference to Mother elsewhere in these threads and had no idea what it meant and I am still in ignorance, would you mind explaining, please? It's not anything as simple as DT's mother's disapproval, given that I presume she is long dead?

cozietoesie · 07/03/2018 16:31

The Vice-President frequently refers to Mrs Pence as 'Mother'. Grin

lionheart · 07/03/2018 16:44

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43320121#

'The leader and deputy leader of far-right group Britain First have been found guilty of religiously-aggravated harassment.

Paul Golding, 36, and Jayda Fransen, 31, were arrested over the distribution of leaflets and posting of online videos during a Muslim gang-rape trial.

Fransen was convicted of three counts of religiously aggravated harassment. Golding was found guilty of one charge.'

lionheart · 07/03/2018 16:46

www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19155505/stormy-daniels-lawsuit-trump-nda/

'In this, Ms. Daniels—a.k.a. Stephanie Clifford—is standing in for all the contractors, craftsfolk, tradespeople, and artisans who have been stiffed by this president and his businesses over the past four decades. She is standing in for all those people on whom the president sicced his lawyers in order to get out of paying them full price for their work.'