Trump: If a potential “sicko shooter” knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school

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This has to be a new low. Even for Trump. It's absurd.

Great! More lethal weapons in schools! What could possibly go wrong..?

"The right to have guns is a part of America's culture and history" errrrm so was slavery - no?

If DT went against the NRA and actually did something sensible in response to all this (which he won't) surely some particularly militant member of the NRA would rock up to the White House and shoot him? One stone, two birds springs to mind ...........

I despair, I really do

Barbarian mum - sad but true I fear

I think the right to 'bear arms' is different to the right to own guns. n the days that the constitution was written they didn't have automatic weapons.

Are you sure there wasn't a typo in the constitution? I think what the founding fathers really meant was "a right to 'bare' arms". Can we get someone to check on that please?

I appreciate the Constitution is important to Americans, but it's been amended at need before and should be now.

Next stop - arm all the students..! That should bring the death-rate down...

Ha Ha Julie!

The idiot from the NRA actually said a few days ago that the right to bear arms was a right given by God to all Americans.

Now I’ve not read the entire Bible, but I’m fairly confident that the words “America” and “Guns” don’t make an appearance.

Unless he’s suggesting that one of the Founding Father’s was actually the second-coming of Christ....

I think the right to 'bear arms' is different to the right to own guns. n the days that the constitution was written they didn't have automatic weapons

Guns have changed drastically since the constitution was written as has the lifestyle of the majority of Americans (e.g., city living rather than frontier living).

CaveMum The twat from the NRA found some obscure passage about a sword and made it into bearing Arms.

I find it bizarre how Americans hang onto this 2A thing when it was written over 200 years ago, and I've said before on t'other thread, it's because it's for the revolution and fighting their own Government. They can overthrow it if they feel it's turning into a dictatorship. Little do they know that's what the Fat Orange Buffoon is aiming for. Bigly sad.

I'd think to bear arms is meant as to defend yourself.
But Christ said to give the other cheek...
Have they read the Bible at all or just random words put together to suit them?

All those early Christian martyrs are just kicking themselves.

he did not go in and engage with the gunman. Cowardice presumably

Aren't police officers trained to intervene if they have back up?
What's the point in being shot yourself?
I can't blame him for not going in without help or information about what was going on inside.

I think Lweji is right. My guess is that procedure would be to not directly engage. Aren't police and emergency services restricted from entering a 'live' situation immediately, anyway? My guess is that there would be enormous insurance and legal issues preventing him - or anyone like him - from entering.

Which, of course, is another aspect of just how delusional this 'response' is.

Are the armed teachers supposed to go and engage? will they sign some special waiver? Will they get different healthcare and insurance packages from other teaching staff - especially given that healthcare following being injured is not free at point of service.

It really is the most appalling suggestion.

Oh but he did say he will pay those teachers who agree to carry a little bit more. FFS! So basically they would be being paid to do 2 jobs

I simply would not accept that level of risk to my person and responsibility for children. I'm responsible for making reasonable decisions to ensure their welfare, NOT for acting as paramilitary protection. It's utterly insane.

I'm a cop and there is no way we would be authorised to enter a building in this circumstance (although clearly in USA they have well used policy and procedures for this type of event I don't know what they are) and whilst I can only answer hypothetically I can say with confidence I would have done the same as the sheriffs officer.

But he is now a convenient scape goat.

I think people are finding it easier to direct feelings of powerlessness and anger towards him than to accept that forcing change re. gun control is going to be a long, difficult battle against the NRA lobbyists.

It's not really fair.

And, of course, augurs ill for any teacher who doesn't successfully manage to single-handedly bring a school massacre to an end. Another positive incentive for Trump's crazy idea.

thecatfromjapan

Exactly.

I look at myself and think I'm a fairly standard teacher: I'm a small, somewhat frumpy lady in her middle years who likes books. What the fuck am I meant to do with a gun?!

A convenient scapegoat indeed.

Shame on him for not acting like a Bruce Wiilis or Liam Neeson

I heard about the armed guard at the school and I feel nothing but compassion for him.

What a terrible position to be in on that day, and now to be blamed for the deaths of the children and have to live with it all.

Very few people will ever face the choices he did (none of us know what was happening for him and how we would have reacted) and now he is having his name dragged through the mud.

Convenient scapegoat indeed.

If the cop wasn't authorised to enter the building then what was the point in only having one there? But teachers will be able to fire off without any backup or authorisation?

I feel for this guy. There must've been a reason why he didn't go in, yet he's scapegoated forever when you've got the idiot 45 in charge labelling you a coward. Awful

Either

teacher's gun will be kept in a safe- intruder shoots teacher while teacher is fiddling with the code

or

teacher carries gun around- any student can jump teacher from behind, overpower him/her and be armed without having had to go to any trouble or expense