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A man just shouted at me in the street

622 replies

Dallia · 21/02/2018 18:18

“Why are you wearing a curtain?”

I kind of smiled awkwardly and carried on crossing the road to him shouting “oi, you, I’m talking to you!”

I was absolutely mortified, lots of people were watching but no one said anything.

Why do people do this? He seemed like a “normal person” and it was really intimidating. He turned back to look and I thought he was going to start following me. Has anyone ever had weird random things shouted at them in the street, or is it just me Hmm

For the record I was wearing a stripy maxi dress as I was on my way to get a spray tan. Really wish I’d had a witty comeback.

OP posts:
Dallia · 22/02/2018 20:16

French that is absolutely awful. I’m so sorry that happened to you Flowers

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LineofDuty · 22/02/2018 20:19

Cognitive dissonance much?

SadieHH · 22/02/2018 20:24

Fucking hell LunchBoxPolice SadAngry

gingergenius · 22/02/2018 20:26

@LineofDuty what is your agenda here?

TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey · 22/02/2018 20:27

Thank you.
I am dreading the days my dauggters have to put up with this. Although i did have a conversation with DS who is 10 today. I asked if it happed at school. His answer was that there are certain boys who say stuff to the girls that are rude and disrespectful. But he tells them off. I have hope for my boy at least.

TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey · 22/02/2018 20:29

Please excuse the typos, I'm on my phone.

gingergenius · 22/02/2018 20:31

I'm the same @TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey I have 2 boys and a girl and I strive to ensure they understand appropriateness but also what to do if it's not forthcoming. It's still out there - all this crap. I just hope I'm equipping my kids to be better than the previous generation.

MrsKoala · 22/02/2018 20:33

Sorry everyone for my comments being used to push a racism angle. It was never my intention. For the record the majority of comments made to me were from white men with other minority groups probably in the same percentage as the population of the areas i lived.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 22/02/2018 20:34

It’s got bugger all to do with immigration. I was harrassed in the 80s and 90s in overwhelmingly white northern Scotland. Now living in a country which has just received a huge influx of immigrants. Not a peep.

MrsKoala · 22/02/2018 20:36

I'm as worried for my boys as i am my girl. I don't think this is a happy situation for either group. I will be talking to all of them about respect for everyone.

gingergenius · 22/02/2018 20:37

@MrsKoala we've all had a fair, shared set of experiences and viewpoints. We all know it's not a race or immigration issue. It is, however, a sex issue in the majority.

Unfortunately that can't really be denied.

Midge75 · 22/02/2018 20:39

Two men in a white van, one shouted at me “Do you know the way to Succum?” Obviously it was meant to sound like he was asking for directions but was asking if I knew how to “suck’ em”. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on, the lights changed and they were gone. Only then did I come up with the reply I should have given “Ask your mate - he looks like he knows”. I was quite proud of it because i’m rubbish at comebacks. Just wish I’d thought of it quicker.

LineofDuty · 22/02/2018 20:40

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gingergenius · 22/02/2018 20:43

@LineofDuty Confused
Errr....no-one has been nasty. I suspect you are not what you appear but that is not my job to ascertain. I wish you well.

TheBrilliantMistake · 22/02/2018 20:43

Lineofduty, you're making no sense whatsoever. You seem to seeking an argument for the sake of it, without presenting any credible insight into the topic being discussed.

I do hope you don't work for the police force, as the attitude you're showing thus far is symptomatic of why they've been found wanting on the Warboys case. Is it so difficult to accept the accounts given are predominantly of white British males? We can be utter bastards too you know.

LineofDuty · 22/02/2018 20:44

BrilliantMistke "Do you not think teachers, doctors, bar staff, cleaners et al also get to interact with people all day long too?"

Absolutely. Add SOCO, coroners, prison officers. They all have a tale to tell.

Bluntness100 · 22/02/2018 20:45

Lineofduty stop trying to make this a race issue it's not. Bother yourself to read the thread. I can assure you most of these comments come from white British men and not in overcrowded towns.

You sound like some mad ukiper. Give it a rest, you're the only one banging the race drum. You cannot tell us what we have experienced isn't real.

I'm not even sure I can be arsed responding to your craziness again.

LineofDuty · 22/02/2018 20:48

Brilliant - You clearly have not ready every post on here. I said some pages back that ALL men feel entitled, all men can rape. This may be partly due to testosterone and partly to upbringing and culture - but mostly the latter.

TheBrilliantMistake · 22/02/2018 20:55

I think it's down to two things: (i) overcrowding, and (ii) the influence of men from cultures where women do not even have the right to deny them or to protest.

Overcrowding and social unrest go hand in hand, misogyny less so. There's plenty of sexism in rural Britain, I can assure you, and zero evidence to support it being less prevalent in less populated areas. You're then alluding to the influence of other cultures on how men treat women, yet arguably the biggest issue we have right now is pornography, most of which is targeted at and produced by white males.
You seem to be hinting at Muslim influences. If you're not, than can you clarify what these other cultures are, since you've been careful not to name them thus far?

TheBrilliantMistake · 22/02/2018 21:01

Stop strawmanning. You suggested the behaviour of men (as described by previous posters) was influenced by other cultures. That is more than a subtle nod to other races / religions. Unless you can better clarify what these other cultures are.
You also alluded to your job giving you greater insight into this... I'm asking how.

GiddyGardner · 22/02/2018 21:02

Not read all of the thread, but I was training for a 10k (I'm not petite, but at the time i was pretty fit and average size - to give it context). I had just run 7 miles, and a twat in a van leaned out of his window and shouted 'ffaatt', I wasn't quick enough with a response, but afterwards consoled myself with the thought 'when was the last time they ran 7 miles'. Some people are dicks, I don't envy their lives.

Theducksarenotmyfriends · 22/02/2018 21:07

Many people on this topic have clearly stated they've been harassed by white, British men so not sure what line is hinting at? It's certainly been my personal experience anyway - I grew up in white suburbia, harassed by boy racers, sexually harassed by the window cleaner and shouted at by random white men in the street. I felt much safer moving to a city and especially living in an area with a really high immigrant population. I think because I look a bit, erm, different and no one bats an eyelid in the city and let's me get on with my day without feeling the need to shout obscenities at me.

I've lived really rurally too and the casual sexism and racism was appalling. So I really doubt this is an overcrowding issue either!

Bluntness100 · 22/02/2018 21:09

Line of duty, you need to stop. Right now. This thread is not about rape. You do rape victims a disservice by insinuating it is. This thread is not about race, if it was it would be about white British men, and this thread is not about overcrowding.

You need to go start your own thread on your very obvious issues and prejudices and walk away from this one.

gingergenius · 22/02/2018 21:11

Just for the record. We ALL KNOW that NAMALT.

And it has nothing to with race or immigration (most of my examples have been from good old dyed in the wool Anglo-Saxons).

But there is a predominant majority. And that majority is MALE.

I'm raising my boys to understand how inappropriate this kind of behaviour is. I'm raising my daughter to understand how to counter it if she comes across less enlightened individuals in her life. From what I've seen here, so is everyone else.

And that's what all of us who what to see change will continue to do.

SingingMyOwnSpecialSong · 22/02/2018 21:15

I once had a man who had parked his car (very badly, while on his mobile) behind mine start shouting at me. I was gazing up the street wondering whether to take my toddlers buggy or carry her and he accused me of glaring at him because he was a Muslim. I had no idea of his religious views until he mentioned them and told him so. He kept shouting at me, ending with wishing cancer upon my little girl. I was very shaken and ended up sobbing on the phone to a lovely woman at the parking meter company because I couldn’t get my head round the automated system after his horrific behaviour. I think I did handle it well, and spoke up in my defence without inflaming the situation further but did the usual thinking of all the best retorts after the event. Some people are just gits wanting someone to pick on.

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