To find it outrageous that school inspects the DC's trousers

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And makes them change immediately into school regulation trousers if they are not the right 'cut'.

Black trousers are black trousers surely. DS wanted the 'skinny' type which are not actually skinny but less flappable than the standard fit. All the rage, plenty of DC wearing them. Store sells them as school trousers. They are school trousers.

School decides they are 'jeans'.

AIBU to think they should take their head out if their arse and concentrate on educating the DC rather than making them line up for 'inspection', as if they are army recruits?

Lower school HAS to wear trousers only sold by school uniform shop. They even put a colourful line down the side, like they are an army brass band, so they cannot sneak on reasonably priced trousers - £18 as opposed to £6 supermarket ones.

It is obscene. Why are they allowed to get away with it?

Before some idiot pipes up that I should disrupt DS's education by moving him if I don't like 'dem rulz', schools are a public SERVICE not a vehicle for boosting the ego of some limp dicked, power crazed twat .

Oh look yet another one who chose a school knowing full well what the uniform and rules were and then is suddenly shocked and appalled when child deliberately tries to circumvent them and the rules are enforced.

Whodathunkit.

Of course Saska, everyone can afford multiple house moves to secure their ideal school. Even people in social housing, negative equity, living with family

OP, I was no lover of school uniform myself but you sound very much like one of those parents.

As mentioned by pp, some parents just don't comply with a generic and reasonable instruction, they think they can be 'individual' and their child suffers. Detention, attention from the teachers, all down to the parents.

Don't be a twit. Your child goes to school to learn, they can wear what they want outside school hours. Be a parent and stop posturing because you sound really silly.

Op. I bought my ds skinny schoold uniform trousers yesterday. You can barely tell the difference, like you say, just less flappy, nowhere near actual skintight. And they absolutely are trousers. Jeans are denim ffs.

GruffaloPants
again, it's their own choice.
I had to move country and to London to find a job that would pay enough to raise a family. I have no sympathy with people with excuses. You don't have to move, and your choice of staying put may be perfectly valid, but don't complain you have no choice.

Better still, if people didn't blithely carry on popping out children they couldn't afford to clothe in the first place, the world would be much better.

It's a bit ott for me. My son wears slim fit trousers rather than bootleg as he is tall and lanky so they suit his frame better. I'm glad his school aren't crazy about uniform

If state chools have uniform, they should allow generic grey/blue/black trousers, generic white shirts etc. Expecting parents to pay for highly expensive specific brands is ridiculous, unnecessary and requires a lot of time-wasting policing.

However, specifying that trousers should be normal, straight cut rather than skinnies that look like tight jeans, leggings or jeggings is perfectly reasonable imo. They look stupid as part of a formal uniform, and YABU to let your child wear them just because they want to.

My dd is very skinny. She wears 'slim cut' school trousers, which are proper trousers with a crease etc but do not flap like clown pants on her skinny legs.

Oh turn it in chocolate 18 quid per cardi for a 6 year old is ridiculous, however much posh wine you quaff.

Anyone who has used the term "snowflake" in this thread has thereby lost the argument. It's the equivalent of putting up a sign saying "I can't be bothered to think this through logically so I'll just sling a few mindless terms of abuse around".

Everyone in the country knows that if you have children they must go to school, and if they go to school they must wear a uniform

Everyone in the country doesn't know that if they go to school their children will have to wear a stupidly expensive uniform when perfectly sensible cheaper alternatives are available.

"snowflakes" being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own

sound quite appropriate to me. Would you prefer "spoiled brats" which might be more accurate?

Saska, do explain how it's people's own choice not to move when they cannot do so because, for instance, they have to be near their place of employment and can't find alternative employment easily; or are in social housing because they cannot work due to disability or illness; or have lost their jobs when their employers went out of business and alternative work is not available?

Very grateful that my DCs school is so chill with the uniform.

White polo, red cardi/jumper/sweater, grey skirt/trousers/shorts/pinafore. Black school shoes (not trainers)

They don't care where it's from, or even if it's logod as long as it's school uniform.

It achieves very highly, kids are happy, and so far no complaints about people not conforming.

I think maybe keeping it so open means people can shop anywhere from ASDA to John Lewis as they fancy and yet all the kids still match and look smart. Win/Win.

Better still, if people didn't blithely carry on popping out children they couldn't afford to clothe in the first place, the world would be much better.

So, Chocolate, picture this scenario. You have a good income and have two children. Some years later, your source of income collapses - e.g. your partner has a serious accident and can no longer work and you have to stop work to look after him; or you split up and can't extract maintenance from your partner, and can't find work that pays enough to cover child care. You lose your home and have to move into council accommodation. Suddenly you are in a situation where every penny counts, you certainly aren't buying wine at £18 a bottle, and a demand that you buy six expensive cardigans (three for each child) literally means that you won't be able to pay the rent. What should you do about those children you so carelessly "popped out"? Put them into care?

Ho hum.

The only difference in the trousers I bought DS in that the pockets are sewn on the outside rather than on the inside. They can't be seen unless DS pulls his blazer up and shows his bum which he had to do for the 'inspection'. Uniform policy states black trousers for the older year groups. I even iron a crease down them and they look nothing like jeans.

He's wearing another pair today as I bought 3 of them. The reason I opted for them, as well as DS wanting them, is because they were the only ones I could find in a age 17/18 as DS is tall. He's Yr 11 so I'm not paying £18 each for the longer length ones I can only get in the uniform shop, which he will only wear for the next 3 months.

If they tell him to change them again, I will keep the spare school ones they give them until his last day and then give them all back. If they start running out, perhaps they will apply a bit of common sense. DS agrees. He can think a bit more rationally than his teachers so it seems.

I can't take a school seriously that massively failed an SN child (DS's twin), because it was easier to try to exclude him rather than give even the very basic support he was legally entitled to and what their own policy states he should have got.

The reason my dd school went supplier specific was because too many people chose to flout the rules, as in the parents allowed their little dears to chose non regulation uniform to wear. The parents bought the skinny trousers, too short skirts, shirts without proper collars etc.
Stick to the flipping rules and then schools won’t be so insistent on having to go down the supplier specific route. She’s in 6th form now and even though they don’t wear uniform, they are still expected to dress in a business like manner.
For my DS I buy secondhand sports kit, jumpers because they are often sold in excellent condition on fb selling groups.

Or maybe, SluttyButty, your dd's school could have decided that it actually makes zero difference to teaching and learning if shirts don't have proper collars and turned a blind eye. Or they could have gone in the other direction and abandoned uniform altogether - as schools all over the world manage to do entirely successfully.

And this is a school that even has a uniform school BAG that can only be bought from the uniform shop at twice the price of a normal rucksack. I mean what is the logic behind that?

These days it doesn't matter what clothes the DC wear, what with phones and Ipads, someone is always going to be able to show off how 'flash' they are. Iphones are the equivalent of expensive trainers and designer hoodies for todays kids.

YABU
As explained by MaisyPops yesterday on about P1 or P2.

(Will admit to not having read very post after that so apologies if repeating)
The only reason some schools move to parents being forced to buy the very expensive specific uniform items from one supplier, is because parents have refused to follow the rules previously, and have bought their dc jeans or trainers, rather than 'proper school trousers' or shoes. Thus ruining it for all the sensible parents.

The only reason some schools move to parents being forced to buy the very expensive specific uniform items from one supplier, is because parents have refused to follow the rules previously, and have bought their dc jeans or trainers, rather than 'proper school trousers' or shoes. Thus ruining it for all the sensible parents.

I think it's probably to do with the school taking a percentage of the sales.

Crikey I’m glad the “You must always blindly follow ALL rules without question always” posters didn’t live in Germany 80 years ago. They probably agree with the mindset of Germany 80 years ago! I find MN turning more and more like the DM comment section everyday. Whenever I hear the term snowflake I image some stupid unsympathetic dm reader with no empathy for anyone outside their own situation, especially if they look poor/female/young/not white. I try to just ignore them, they must be trolls, bored of reading the dm.

Also YANBU op. Thankfully dc school is relatively relaxed. There is a school uniform (embroidered jumper/polo/cardi) which can all be bought from Tescos at reasonable prices. If not, then the option is to wear grey blue or black uniform (not a prescribed make) from anywhere as long as you wear the school tie.

GnotherGnu: Planning. Saving. Not difficult.

You know you will have to put your child through school and that child will need a uniform. There's absolutely no excuse for not providing one.

Chocolate you're either a troll or some smug, arrogant fool who hasn't had to experience real life. You do realise that people's circumstances change, bad luck befalls them etc, etc.