To hope that we can follow Iceland in banning male circumcision

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It really is time that this nasty practice is stopped.
www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/18/iceland-ban-male-circumcision-first-european-country

I come from a country where circumcision is routine for all religions. Nobody minds. Never met a man who wishes he hadn't been circumcised.

Plenty of men have issues with their foreskins being too tight, etc. Not to mention the hygiene issues, which are pretty common.

It's not at all equivalent to FGM.

I fully agree with banning the barbaric practice but it should still be allowed if there is a medical need.

If men want to be circumcised for religious reasons then by all means they should go ahead as long as they are at least 18 and have reached that decision themselves.

It's integral to the Jewish and Muslim faiths and goes back millennia. Banning it to fit 21st century sensibilities is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start.

The compulsory mutilation of the genitals of children in accordance of someone's belief in a being that doesn't exist is wrong on so many levels.

They can get out the country of they dont like it.

Genuine question, what do muslims or jews think will happen to their son if he's not circumcised? Will he not be allowed into heaven/paradise?

I'm not arguing that it's right or wrong. I am saying that it amounts to religious prosecution. You can emote over it all you like. I have no wish to live in a country where people's deeply and sincerely held religious views are ridden over roughshod by people they don't affect.

I am a mother of sons and I absolutely cannot think of any possible circumstance, barring medical necessity, that would compel me to cut healthy parts off my son's body. If they choose that for themselves when they get older that is up to them.

It absolutely should be banned.

Nobody would be upset about medical reasons. I'm sure your DH's parents would have preferred not to put him through an operation unless absolutely necessary.

Burning people at the stake for their religious beliefs used to be intrinsic to religion in this country.

Religion has been responsible for all sorts of things in the past that we now think are unacceptable. It’s no excuse for treating tiny babies this way.

Persecution, not prosecution. Damned iPad!

I read the contempt some posters are showing as being entirely directed towards perpetrators and supporters of systematic, medicalised child abuse, as opposed to any religion or race. I’ve not seen anything I found to be offensive.

I’m not sure what I think about the latter, but some of the comments on here are downright offensive.
I agree. It is offensive to suggest that a measure designed for the welfare of babies should be slandered as being racist. It is nothing of the sort.

Persecution

Huzzah, foreskins a jolly good fellow, foreskins a jolly good fellow...

Where I live FGM happens (rarely and it fucking horrified me), when my baby goes for her check ups at the health center they tell me, open her nappy and they check, very time. It’s an Islamic majority country but it’s not an acceptable thing here.

Why should circumcision (unless in medical circumstances) be ok?

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Has anyone called anti Semitism yet?

Only you.

So if you are trying to minimise the rise of anti semitism in this country at the moment, you've failed.

Most US men are circumcised in infancy - no religious reason.. Hygiene, apparently.

Would be interesting to hear from anyone who chose to circumcise for religious reasons. Just to balance the debate. It's not something I could ever imagine doing, but I wonder if it's part of your culture/religion then do you just do it without thinking.

Blue, I would argue that some Christians would like to adhere to homophobic and sexist practises but this is, quite rightly, not allowed in law in our current society. Circumcision should be no different.

Is washing a knob throughly so hard it requires surgery?
No it's not the same as FGM, give Hibo Wardere a follow on Twitter, she's brilliant but many of her tweets are very sad. She campaigns against FGM and also writes very movingly of her relationship with her mother who had her cut.
FGM is awful, ill stand by women like Hibo until FGM is a distant horrible memory, hopefully in our lifetime.
Doesn't mean I can't find cutting healthy children's penises palatable because there's worse stuff in the world.

EllieMe If we follow Americans we are really fckued

Unpalatable ffs auto correct why

I agree that making it illegal might drive some people underground, but it would start the process of making it unacceptable in a modern society.
It may take many years for a ban to become totally effective, but that is no excuse to avoid starting the process now.

It isn't tradition. It's an intrinsic part of those faiths.

Faith of the parents. The child doesn't get a choice do they?