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Which conspiracy theories do you believe?

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beluga425 · 18/02/2018 15:48

Which theories, dismissed by many as conspiracy theories, do you regard as the truth?

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sonyaya · 20/02/2018 10:06

@shatnerswig could I ask the names of those books please?

I think Steven Avery is guilty. I don’t doubt the police were dodgy but I still think he did it.

beluga425 · 20/02/2018 10:11

ReginaPhalangeismyothername
Yes both are correct. The video was very soon afterwards. there was also a report of its collapse on BBC news a few minutes BEFORE it came down. I also saw an interview with the caretaker of the building. He was inside the building and spoke to the owner who told him to get out of there immediately.
Does all of this equal a conspiracy? No idea. Is it interesting? Yes.

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RhinoGirl · 20/02/2018 10:19

What is this about James Brown/Michael Jackson?
I’m confused.

beluga425 · 20/02/2018 10:22

Michael Jackson isn't dead. His coffin pics are just James Brown's ones with MJ photoshopped in. Apparently!

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BluePony · 20/02/2018 10:23

Moon landing
Mandela effect
9/11

beluga425 · 20/02/2018 10:24

What's the Mandela Effect?

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wintermonster · 20/02/2018 10:26

Mandela effect is the feeling that someone already died years ago but actually didn't

Or that something was called something different in the past

BigEthel · 20/02/2018 10:27

804 messages and not one person has mentioned that Stevie Wonder isn't blind?

No, I don't believe it neither. It shows how crap conspiracy theories are. This idea that the "establishment" are involved in convoluted plans - have you seen the royal family's exam results? Clever isn't the word for them so how they've been responsible for half the things said on here is mind-boggling.

As for people "remembering" an explosion before the planes flew into the Twin Towers, the mind is incredibly unreliable. Google the Mandela Effect and you'll see how people remember all sorts of things that never happened. People even remember things that happened to them that never happened to them. Add to that ignorance ("why did they never go back to the moon?") and people wanting to believe they're cleverer than they are and voila, a conspiracy theory.

Kitsharrington · 20/02/2018 10:27

After reading this thread I wish there was a way to tag individual user names on MN. So that before I consider the seemingly sage advice of a poster I can know that they believe 9/11 was an inside job, or that lizard people control the earth. Because woke!

I used to think MN was a sensible place.

ShatnersWig · 20/02/2018 10:30

sonyaya I'm not sure I should encourage reading of said books. It only encourages people to believe such nonsense!

beluga425 · 20/02/2018 10:31

Stevie Wonder isn't blind. Shock

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pippistrelle · 20/02/2018 10:47

My conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theories fill the space that religion used to occupy in the minds of those less interested in evidence. They provide a comforting sense that there is order in a chaotic universe. Even if it's not benign, at least there's an explanation, someone made this happen, someone's in charge. And the way that people speak of them is reminiscent of faith, 'I believe...' - evidence might, in fact, be detrimental to belief.

crunchymint · 20/02/2018 11:03

Just before her death, the public view of Princess Diana was beginning to turn. Her death turned her into a saint. It put the royal family at very real risk as public opinion turned against them. The best thing for the Royal Family would have been if Diana had lived and her popularity had faded. There really was no motivation for her to be murdered by the Royal Family.

Idratherhaveacupoftea · 20/02/2018 11:04

Jill Dando wasn't married at the time of her death, She was engaged but not married,

The80sweregreat · 20/02/2018 11:14

I disagree that Diana wasn't seen as a threat to the royals - public opinion of her might have been a bit on the wane at that time, but she was still very prominent with her charity work and hanging around with Dodi was very much frowned upon by the establishment.
She was seen as somebody who could have turned the public against the Royal family and it was well known that Charles wanted to marry Camilla as well - the public may not have been so forgiving if Diana was still around when that took place! She still had a lot of loyal followers and could have caused a lot of damage if she had lived. its just my opinion but they were wary of her. The panorma interview was seen as a snub - what else would she have done if she had lived? I think that they viewed her as dangerous, even if it sounds a bit ridiculous now.

Elendon · 20/02/2018 11:17

Well conspiracies do happen it's just that I can't remember them now amongst all the fog of wild, delusion so called conspiracies.

Perhaps it's a conspiracy that I can't remember the real conspiracies!

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 20/02/2018 11:30

How about this one? Ed Sheeran sold his soul to the devil in return for his fame. This is the only thing that makes sense.

He is 27. He will die this year to become part of the 27 club as they all sold their souls obviously and that’s when the devil collects.

And I forgot my favourite that Prince Charles is the Antichrist. (People really believe this.)

Elendon · 20/02/2018 11:31

One conspiracy I do feel has traction is the Macaroni Murders.

theunredacted.com/dead-scientists-the-marconi-murders/

specialsubject · 20/02/2018 11:33

crunchymint is right - Diana was making a bit of a fool of herself and the best thing for royal family PR was to let it continue, same as with fergie. Plus does anyone seriously think the royals are so evil as to deliberately deprive the heir and the spare of their mother? That went out with Henry viii.

Sadly Diana did it for them.

GinAndSonic · 20/02/2018 11:37

I am definitely not posting so I can find this thread later to read all the conspiracy theories....

cista · 20/02/2018 11:37

Bit of a nasty one. Trigger warning!

Apparently Jimmy Saville was involved with Fred West which was why FW "killed himself" before he went to rial, to stop anything from coming out Sad

sashh · 20/02/2018 11:40

Re the Diana conspiracy, it was incredibly convenient for Charles, he was in a difficult position re Camilla and him being heir to not just the throne but the Church of England. I doubt he would have been able to marry while Diana was a live.

crunchymint · 20/02/2018 11:46

I disagree, Diana dying made it more difficult for him to marry.

It is not outside the realms of possibility that Fred West and Salville knew each other.

Real conspiracy theories that may be true are -

Marconi deaths
That Weinstein was offered up as the media because he had pissed someone powerful off/ to detract attention from others doing the same
That there are more powerful men involved in sexual abuse of kids who have not yet been publicly exposed

Elendon · 20/02/2018 11:46

Marconi, not macaroni.

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 20/02/2018 11:48

Sassh, why wouldn’t he have been able to marry her? He can do whatever he wants. I’d say it was actually really INconvenient that she died as he had to wait much longer to marry Camilla. People would have been outraged had he done it closer to her death.