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To think this is taking the piss

122 replies

user1471432735 · 17/02/2018 12:14

DH and I have been together 18 years, married 11.

Relationship with inlaws has had its ups and downs, we are very, very different people. I think they would much prefer a quiet housewife who had babies and "let" DH live in his hometown so we could rely on PIL's for their sage wisdom and input into every piece of our life (like my SIL, basically)

Instead I'm what my PIL's call a "career woman" I work in senior management and travel quite a bit. We've never discussed it with them, but I earn about 3x what DH does and we live in major city, about three hours away and are not planning on having children. DH is very happy with this arrangement, he moved out of hometown the moment he left high school, but based on many comments and behaviour over the years, its clear that PIL think I'm forcing it all on him and preventing him from being happy.

They're also incredibly disorganized and always late. It's not uncommon for them to turn up more than an hour after the agreed time or to attempt to do all the Christmas dinner shopping at 5pm on Christmas Eve and be incredulous when there are no turkeys or puddings left. I'm very organised, potentially a little too rigid with timing and planning and the disconnect has lead to some frustrations over the years.

When I was younger I used to take it personally, but mostly I just accept that rather than being malicious and cruel they are disorganized and thoughtless.

Mostly I just go with the flow and we see them about 5 times a year, which I use ally nudge DH to organise.

The one thing that stings a little bit is that they never remember my birthday. In the 18 years we have been together, I'd guess that they've acknowledged it maybe 5 times. Once was my 21st and another was because it happened to be three days before we got married. On the other occasions it's only been due to DH orchestrating it, and I told him that although I appreciated it, it was very uncomfortable knowing that they'd been forced to call me.

I don't expect presents or a card or a fuss or even a phone call. A text of FB message would suffice, to show that they acknowledge the existence of the woman who has been with their son for almost half his life and made him (mostly happy)

Anyway, this year they forgot by birthday again. DH called them a week after and told them (again) how disappointed and hurt he is that they don't even make an effort and they murmured some weak apologies, but haven't bothered to get in touch. My birthday is early January (so they've had time since DH spoke to them)

Normally this would just be what it is, but this week DH was talking to his mum to get more info on the plans for his dads 70th early next month. We were told in November to put the date aside but have had no further info since and given their track record and the fact that we'll need to travel, book accommodation and pet sitters, we needed to know what was planned (if anything)

Turns out the party is going ahead for 50 people at the village hall. Caterers have been booked etc

But. MIL asked DH to ask me if I would make the cake.

For 50 people

For a man who hasn't spoken to me since Christmas Eve and ignored my birthday.

MIL didn't ask me, because that might be awkward, given she also hasn't spoken to me since Xmas or acknowledged my birthday and she likes to pretend something hasn't happened if she's in the wrong or might be embarrassed.

Apparently they thought it might be nice for me to do. Because wives make cakes

(Actually I do enjoy baking and have made cakes for friends, but they've asked me directly or I've offered and they treat me like I exist and remember my birthday)

DH pointed out that
A) she should ask me herself
B) while she's at it, she should maybe apologize for forgetting my birthday
C) giving someone who works 50+ hours and has three OS business trips in the next few weeks, three weeks notice to make a cake for 50 people when the party is 3 hours away from that persons kitchen, is.... a bit shit.

At this point MIL had to finish the call as something very incredibly urgent had just come up. We haven't heard back

In the interests of being the bigger person, I will make the cake, as they're my DH's parents and I don't want more awkwardness to limit their already distant relationship, because then DH would feel guilty.

But I'm allowed to think that this is slightly taking the piss, right?

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 17/02/2018 14:07

I wouldn't make the cake.

MrsElvis · 17/02/2018 14:09

But 50 cupcakes from asda for the piss takers

TieGrr · 17/02/2018 14:09

I'm not seeing much reason to be outraged, tbh. I don't expect my ILs to make a fuss over my birthday and it sounds like the rest of your complaints are from little comments here and there rather than them being nasty. It could be a confirmation bias thing - you think they don't like you and look for anything to back that up, ignoring what doesn't fit the narrative. Did your MIL actually say baking is what wives like or does she know it's something you enjoy?

petbear · 17/02/2018 14:11

Just noticed you're making the cake as that is what wives do.

Hell's bollocks woman!!! Hmm

Tell ya what, I never ever ever make bastard cakes, and I rarely cook from scratch, (only chilli con carne, spag bol, pasta meals and similar,) because I am shit at it and I can't arsed! (Used to make wee fairy cakes and rice crispy chocolate cakes with the bairns - but that's it!)

As has been said, it's so rude and passive aggressive, because they ARE making you out you're the iccle wumman who should be looking after your hubbzy AND his wuvvly parents. Why is always assumed that women should bake cakes and do the cooking?! Really boils my piss it does! Grrrrrrrr. Hmm

I am good at many things, and I do many things, but baking cakes and cooking are things I am not great at, and I do not enjoy. Why do I have to do it? Just coz I'm a wumman? Fuck that!

Why are you making the cake?! You're playing right into their hands! Confused

@Ciderwithbuda

Hmm. I think asking you to make the cake by asking your DH to ask you is a passive aggressive way of putting you in the mold they want you to be in. The little wife who does as her husband asks - bakes cakes. Not the career woman that you are. And it sends a message to everyone at the party that you are the little woman at home who makes cakes.

You've walked right into it.

Yep THIS! ^

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 17/02/2018 14:13

As you are a very busy lady (and much more gracious than I would be, given the history/circumstances) may I suggest you purchase a "Minions" cake + add some candles. It is, truly, the most disgusting cake I have ever tasted! Grin Cake Grin

aaaaargghhhhelpme · 17/02/2018 14:16

Op I think you're brilliant. I know you and dh can see through their silly games. And I love that you have dhs full support

But I totally agree that by making the cake you're playing into their hands. You're not gaining anything from it - brownie points? They don't give a flying fuck. They going to remember your birthday next year? Hell no.

All it does is give them the chance to show their friends and family what a lovely housewife their son has married. Exactly what they want.

You're not gaining the upper hand. No one else there will know or care for the backstory. It will just look as the pil want it to.

I think you're awesome. And I love your sense of humour. But hell would freeze over before I made them anything. Cheeky sods

WildIrishRose1 · 17/02/2018 14:22

I agree with PP. You have have been appallingly by them and you are just going back for more of the same by making that cake. It's pointless being the bigger person as they won't care / notice. If I were in your situation, my DH would not allow me to bake the cake. You will get no thanks from your In-laws, in fact you'll just be validating their treatment of you.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 17/02/2018 14:24

I can see your point about not being the bigger person, just better at PR 😂

However, I think you’ll seriously undermine your DH & give your MIL the go ahead to keep treating you the way she does. Your DH told her, in no uncertain terms, what she needed to do if she wanted you to make the cake. Don’t undermine him.

🥂🍾 congratulations on finding a man with a backbone, they’re a rare beast around MN.

diddl · 17/02/2018 14:29

"It will cause them a bit of discomfort to have to acknowledge or at the very least, be party to other people acknowledging what I've done"

No it won't.

If it would, they wouldn't even have asked.

They'll only think even less of you for being such a pushover.

PhuntSox · 17/02/2018 14:34

They haven't asked you, your husband told them they have to ask you and they haven't yet. Don't be surprised to arrive and find a lovely big cake made by someone else.

NiteFlights · 17/02/2018 14:37

I'm not seeing much reason to be outraged, tbh. I don't expect my ILs to make a fuss over my birthday and it sounds like the rest of your complaints are from little comments here and there rather than them being nasty. It could be a confirmation bias thing - you think they don't like you and look for anything to back that up, ignoring what doesn't fit the narrative. Did your MIL actually say baking is what wives like or does she know it's something you enjoy?

No, nobody enjoys baking cakes for cheeky fuckers who want cakes but don't even ask politely, let alone ones who are deliberately rude to the putative baker.

OP, I don't think you should do it. If they asked you, fine, but they didn't, so fuck them!

Angelf1sh · 17/02/2018 14:41

I would not be making the cake. If “wives like making cakes” then your MIL can make it.

brizzledrizzle · 17/02/2018 14:55

YABU if you think they are slightly taking the piss, they are massively taking the piss.
Hell would freeze over before I made that cake or spoke to them ever again.

You're a better woman than I am.

eggsandwich · 17/02/2018 14:57

Why not make a huge cake with happy belated birthday user on itGrin

AskBasil · 17/02/2018 15:02

"Is your DH happy that his 70 year old Father isn't getting a present and you're planning a Costco cake?"

Why the fuck wouldn't he be? What's wrong with a Costco cake? When did we get to a point where women berate each other on the internet, to bake fucking cakes.

I have never baked anyone a cake in my life. I don't do baking. I'm not good at it. Marks and Spencer and Patisserie Valerie do it much better than I do. It has never occurred to me that this is some kind of moral failing, or deprivation for the birthday person.

I agree with whoever said don't make it until she's asked you, otherwise she may well have gone and bought an alternative.

Charolais · 17/02/2018 15:04

You are being very petty with your disappointed about them forgetting your birthday when you are a bigger disappointment to them for not giving them grandchildren. If they had your attitude, it would be just you and your dogs.......or probably a herd of cats.

You see them 5 times a year and then wonder why they forget your birthday.

I think we are getting our 'cheeky fuckers' mixed up.

Good luck getting your dogs to remember your birthday.

AskBasil · 17/02/2018 15:05

And actually, you really shouldn't bake the cake unless they ask you to.

Asking your DH to ask you, is tremendously rude.

Bluelady · 17/02/2018 15:07

You're a lovely, lovely woman. I take my hat off to you.

AskBasil · 17/02/2018 15:08

Er, they have no right to expect the OP to "give them grandchildren" Charolais.

That is not what the OP was put on Earth to do and all of us should remember that we do not have the right for our children to reproduce, just so that we can have grandchildren.

Corblimeyguv · 17/02/2018 15:20

Better at PR Grin

YADNBU

OP, you sound fabulous and far more mature than me. Glad your DH is supportive of you, glad you’ve got some humour over this, and sorry that you don’t have the PILs you deserve. They sound awful Angry

PuppyMonkey · 17/02/2018 15:22

I’m with your DH, I wouldn’t do it unless she asked me nicely herself and said something grovelling about forgetting my birthday. Actually I wouldn’t do it at all as I’m shit at baking.Grin

I don’t think you’re very good at PR at all OP. You’re sending the message to a pair of CFs that they can get away with any old cheeky fuckeryness.

Dontforgetyourtowel · 17/02/2018 15:24

Charolais no one owes it to anyone to give them grandchildren. You think the duty to give someone grandchildren is a good reason to have children? Are you actually insane?

icelollycraving · 17/02/2018 15:25

I wouldn’t be making the cake. Your dh told her what she needed to do, she hasn’t.
You will either have the embarrassment of them having a cake and yours not being used or look like you’re trying to outdo theirs. Either way you won’t win do save yourself the effort.
Also, does your friend want you making mess in their kitchen with decorating a cake etc?

TheDailyMailLovesTheEUReally · 17/02/2018 15:35

Ignore Charolais. They manage to be unpleasant and unhelpful on just about every thread they post on.

HermionesRightHook · 17/02/2018 15:39

Get your DH to make the cake. Supervise it so it's edible (presuming he has no baking skills otherwise they'd have asked him, surely? Hmm). But make sure it looks a bit... too homemade.

Upon questioning say "Oh, goodness no, I didn't make it, DH did! Isn't he clever? So nice to have a husband at home who can manage all this domestic stuff, isn't it? I'm far too busy for (wave hand airily), you know, all this wife stuff."

Swan off to the bar, where you can observe MIL having a fit and the other guests trying not to giggle.