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Cunt and a dick?

138 replies

Wolfiefan · 12/02/2018 23:06

This place has changed.
It's ok to pull the trousers off a child and thump them if they asked for it?
A PBP claims their child abuses their dog. I'm a cunt for suggesting they should stop that?
I miss Zombie. Sad
I have offered support on miscarriage and medical issues and posts about pets and MH issues. And loads more.
But I'm a dick and a know it all cunt who posts on every thread with my know it all opinions?
Too many bitches.
Not enough vipers.

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MotherforkingShirtballs · 12/02/2018 23:55

If you call posters on here a cunt I think there should be a consequence.

There already is, it's in the talk guidelines but then again it's all relative, isn't it? If Person A thinks Person B is acting like a cunt then they've the right to say "I think you're acting like a cunt".

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 12/02/2018 23:56

Wolfiefan Except, that’s really not what your OP was about. It was all about trying to get sympathy and people feeling sorry for you and fawning all over you.

At no point in your OP do you actually say anything along the lines of “people should face the consequences of calling others cunts”. It does go down the sympathy vote route, however.

Yvonne1958 · 13/02/2018 00:00

It’s taken me more than 5 but WTF is CDSH?

Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:01

Well I clearly don't have your sympathy vote. But that wasn't what I wanted. (And I'm not sure you have one to give judging by your posting style!)
I don't want anyone to fawn. Maybe you do.
Mother. Calling people a cunt isn't ok. I wasn't acting like anything.
But it seems on here that people who say certain behaviour isn't acceptable. (Abuse etc) are simply intolerant cunts.

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MotherforkingShirtballs · 13/02/2018 00:01

And there were some very cuntish things said on that thread such as one poster saying the child needed a smack and others saying the child should be rehomed, people calling the child disgusting, evil, abnormal, and all sorts of lovely things like that.

Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:02

CDSH?
Cunty
Duck
Slut
Harpy.
My new nickname!

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toffee1000 · 13/02/2018 00:02

Jesus What you are being unnecessarily nasty to Wolfie. Being called a cunt by an Internet stranger is nasty, and Mumsnet is supposed to be supportive.

Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:03

But not by me!
I wouldn't say it's ok to say those things about a child. I didn't say them. Confused

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MyKingdomForBrie · 13/02/2018 00:04

I think Wolfie was mostly pointing out that this site isn’t what it used to be. It’s lost a lot of the old ‘feel’ it had and that is a shame, I totally agree. You’re doing a great job demonstrating that whattodo

Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:05

I've had a couple of lovely PM messages.
Not fawning.
Supporting.
There is a difference.

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MotherforkingShirtballs · 13/02/2018 00:05

But it seems on here that people who say certain behaviour isn't acceptable. (Abuse etc) are simply intolerant cunts.

No one on that thread said the child's behaviour was acceptable however several posters made very cuntish remarks about a child with SN including suggestions that she should be smacked, rehomed, and more. The fact the child wasn't real is irrelevant as no one knew she wasn't real at that point. Why would anyone in their right mind advocate hitting a child with SN!? I know you didn't say that, it was a different poster, but surely you agree that some of the comments made in regard to that child were disgusting?

Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:06

Well of course I would. Unacceptable.
But I didn't say them.
I said a child shouldn't be allowed to hurt a dog. That made me a disablist cunt apparently.

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SleightOfMind · 13/02/2018 00:16

S’alright Wolfie, you’re not a real mumsnetter till you’ve been outed as an atrocious cunt. Welcome to the club. Smile

Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:18

Atrocious
Cunty
Duck
Slut
Harpy
Has a ring to it.

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Wolfiefan · 13/02/2018 00:23

Can we have a cunt's corner?
A motto. Keep on cunting on!
I've never typed cunt so frequently in my life!

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Drainedandconfused · 13/02/2018 00:23

VladmirsPoutine... nothing in place yet, he’s at a fantastic school until he’s 19, we take each day as it comes, I believe that his school will help me decide on his future, college is definitely out of the question. I would love him to go into residential by the the time he’s in his mid twenties, he needs to have a life away from me and there is no way I could entertain him every day 365 days a year, I would also like to claim my life back.
I’m sorry but I didn’t see any disabilist comments and believe me I’m shit hot on anything like that.
I do have a lot of understanding of autism, I do know that it comes in many forms, I also know that children with autism are not wild animals and can be taught self control with a hell of a lot of patience and repetition work. My DS has monster meltdowns and can lash out, mostly at me thank goodness, not at animals or other children, He has been taught boundaries both by myself and
his school.
I’m sorry to tell you but yes people do use ASD to excuse bad behaviour, my neighbour is the perfect example, her DS’s behaviour can be horrendous, both at school and at home, when I first met her she told me he has autism but it was undiagnosed. She kicked up a stink with the school, gp, the family centre and every authority she could access, he was assessed and no he doesn’t have ASD of any form, the problem is he has no boundaries, is allowed to run riot and is spoilt. A lot of people try and jump on the autism bandwagon to excuse bad behaviour.
I am nowhere near a perfect parent before somebody calls me smug but please don’t preach to me about autism, I’ve been living it as a single mother for 12 years with a very low functioning child.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 13/02/2018 00:35

Don’t the same guidelines that don’t allow calling posters a cunt also apply to calling posters a bitchplopping halfwit?

2018SoFarSoGreat · 13/02/2018 00:37

Using the words are very different to calling someone them, IMHO. I love MN for the straight talk (mostly) and learn so much from the collective wisdom (yet am still Shock at some of the responses) but that's what makes the world go round.

I was only around for her last couple of years, and yet I too miss Zombie, and the repartee of the vipers. This place is different. The same, but less sharp and witty. More nasty and goady. The support is still there, but you have to look harder to find it.

Never been called names yet, but hey, I did get told a poster wanted to kill me on an AIBU I started, so I guess I have hope yet Grin

LanguidLobster · 13/02/2018 00:44

What did they want to kill you for, 2018?

Rafals I think it depends on context, it's almost de rigeur to swear on here but if you're posting seriously about something you care about getting called a cunt could feel hurtful

SleightOfMind · 13/02/2018 00:52

I’m lucky in that my DCs are all NT but friends of theirs with non physical disabilities express their difficulties through the filter of their own personalities.

Cruelty to animals or younger children is not something I’d be worried about unless there was a specific issue we’d seen developing.
It’s hard work and difficult keeping dogs/babies/traffic/sharp or messy things away from a child who’s big enough to seek them out for themselves. But it is doable.

Our friend’s daughter has antisocial personality disorder. Finally diagnosed as a late teen, way to late to actually help Angry.

Her parents were brilliant at warning us about her limitations and managing issues that arose.

There was never a problem with her being around our babies or our dogs.

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/02/2018 00:59

Don’t the same guidelines that don’t allow calling posters a cunt also apply to calling posters a bitchplopping halfwit?

They do indeed.

Which is why I didn't call the poster a BPHW but said it was the kind of post a BPHW would make.

Oswin · 13/02/2018 01:01

Yes that thread had loads of disabilist posts. Calling the child names, suggesting the child should be hit. And the old trope that people use it as an excuse. And that thread has been widely misrepresented here. Yes the op was a Pbp. But don't make out the posters who were sticking up for her were doing so because it's fine to hurt animals. Op was asking of she should regime the dog, not that she was doing something. Don't make out there was posters totally fine with some kid abusing a dog. They though the best thing would be to rehome the dog not call a four year old names. And the person who suggested a child should be assaulted is a cunt.

Oswin · 13/02/2018 01:04

Yes with some children with autism it's doable to teach them not to do certain things. With some it isn't. I hate it so fucking much when posters say well my kid has asd and is well behaved. So fucking what. Do you ever stop for a moment to think how that makes other parents feel. The ones with children who can't be taught not to be violent. When they are bruised and battered from there own child and come here for a bit of nonsense to relax, and they have to see that. Think beyond your own life for once.

2018SoFarSoGreat · 13/02/2018 01:12

Lobster I was taking too long to get my bloody safe cracked apparently :) I read it about 20 times quite sure I must be misinterpreting it, but nope, death threatened. Hopefully lighthearted but they failed to put the disclaimer. Hah. I hoiked up my big girl panties and did not even name change. but redoubled my efforts to crack that bastard in double quick time

Was definitely being unreasonable posting it in AIBU but it literally was my first post (I know I know, that old saw keeps repeating but I didn't know that at the time!)

SleightOfMind · 13/02/2018 01:14

This is rapidly becoming a TAAT. It’s going to disappear pretty quickly.

That said, there were some horrible posts about the 4-yr-old DD who was making the old dog miserable. Some were unforgivable.
However, lots of people posted about managing challenging DC/dog combos in a helpful vein.

The OP has no management plan while seeking diagnosis for her DD’s behaviour, appears to let the dog, baby and challenging DD hang out unsupervised together etc.

DDog is a lovely family member who is now getting on in years. Realistically, older dogs, however lovely, are not easy to rehome. OP doesn’t seem to be able to rehome with family or friends.

I thought there was more that OP could and should do before giving away her kind old dog.