To be given milk to drink that had been open for 3 days!

[LittleMe03]

Now I expect to be flamed for this, and for it to seem really silly to lots of people....

.... but I was diagnosed with IBS around 4 years ago now after being terribly ill on and off for a few months.

I was told to keep a diary to figure out what 'triggers' caused me problems. After around a year I worked out what foods and drinks caused me to be poorly.

I love milk, will drink 1/2 a pint a day on its own or have it with cereal, I rarely drink any hot drinks. However, I soon realised that if my milk was not REALLY fresh (used same day opened or day after) I got terrible stomach pains. So even thou it's more expensive I tend to buy a pint at a time for home use and I try to avoid drinking milk elsewhere.

I nipped in to see my sister today after work, she is well aware of this strange issue of mine. She asked me if I would like a drink. I said I fancied milk but if she didn't have 'fresh' milk i would have some water. She went to the kitchen and came back with a glass of milk claiming 'I have just opened it' I drank it and soon after left.

About an hour ago I started to feel really funny, stomach pains and grumbling pains I couldn't figure out where I had gone wrong and rang my sister to check on the milk she had given me. She laughed and said it had been open a few days but it was fine so she didn't think anything of it and thought I was just paranoid

AIBU to be upset with her? I didn't say much to her on the phone other than explain that I do think that could be why I may now feel poorly tonight

world average consumption is 2 and half times less than UK average consumption.

Adults drinking milk only started when cattle farming became widespread. Before we were farmers, only infants drank milk. Prior to this no adults could actually even digest milk. Over time due to a mutation, as PP said, this kind of changed.

I drink milk. I'm just pointing out that this is why lots of people have problems with dairy.

I expect our average consumption of most processed food is 5 times that of the average Indian though.

Adults drinking milk only started when cattle farming became widespread. Before we were farmers, only infants drank milk. Prior to this no adults could actually even digest milk. Over time due to a mutation, as PP said, this kind of changed

Er, no. We didn't just suddenly start drinking milk after we decided to farm animals, and then instantly be able to drink it. Humans would have been drinking animals milk for a very long time before that. Some adults would have been able to digest milk, some wouldn't.

I have found out that we eat more than 18 times more sugar per capita in the UK than in India. And more than 7 times more fat

“India is the world’s biggest producer and consumer of dairy. Milk production totals 140bn litres a year (UK farmers delivered 14.4bn litres in 2014-15) and the country is self-sufficient in dairy, with demand growing 4.5% year on year.”

www.fwi.co.uk/business/11-amazing-facts-dairy-farming-india.htm

There’s a really interesting phenomenon that Indians in the northwest of the country have he same lactose tolerance as Europeans, whereas those in the northeast do not.

Cows have been domesticated for about eight thousand years in north west India. If you think about the amount of ghee, yoghurt, cheese and cream used in much Punjabi cooking then it’s not hard to see how much dairy is consumed.

I think it's more likely that some days milk triggers direct pain and some days it doesn't. And you've attributed that to how old the milk is but really it's just the vagaries of IBS

I have found this to be the case.

I don't care if you drink milk or not but it is incredibly common for people with gut issues/IBS/intolerances to have an issue with milk.
It is also common for them to have other related issues.

I think the idea that you can tolerate milk if it is fresh is unlikely to be true but it fits with a few experiences so you stick with it.

My suspicion is that, like my DD, you have an issue with several things which combined together cause an issue.

She could drink a glass of milk and be fine.
But she's allergic to gluten, wool , birch pollen and some nuts too.
So if she drinks the glass of milk while eating a biscuit and sitting on a wool carpet she'd have a problem .

If she drank 'fresh' milk whilst sitting on Lino and without a biscuit she'd assume 'fresh' milk was fine.
That would however be bollocks.

You're a grown up, you don't need to be drinking glasses of milk at all.

You’re a grown up, you don’t need to be...

Drinking alcohol
Eating chocolate
Eating cheese
Drinking coffee
Driving a car
Sitting around on your fat arse Mumsnetting

(Guilty of all! But not all at once...)

YANBU. People thinking people are paranoid about illness could potentially kill someone. "I've got a nut allergy." "No, you haven't, you're just paranoid."

DM has looked after DS1 for years, and knows what he can and can't have, but she's very judgemental about people with coeliac, and says they're jumping on the bandwagon.

@bitoutofpractice off the topic of the thread but whilst what you found out is no doubt true, there are certain areas in India which have been found to have the same female obesity rates as the US now and high fat and high sugar consumption is becoming a problem there too. Childhood obesity is soaring sadly.

MrsPreston where do you get your calcium from then? Hello osteoporosis.

Also, DS2 took all my food when I was pregnant with him. I was drinking milk by the gallon to try and put on weight.

Other foods that are high in calcium include:

Spinach
Kale
Okra
Collards
Soybeans
White beans
Some fish, like sardines, salmon, perch, and rainbow trout

That's very helpful Soup, thanks. 😀

There are loads more too so not drinking dairy doesn’t mean “hello osteoporosis” at all,

Google it - you might be surprised at some of them. Oranges for example.

I keep my ibs under control with this stuff. Tastes fine (the mango flavour) and you drink such a small amount if you don't like it down it like a shot.

Can be a bit expensive so see if it works for you before getting loads. Can get it a bottle at a time from amazon.

Reducing my stress and meditation has also helped me. Maybe you need to relax?

Good luck

@kochicoo I have just emerged from a googling worm hole of looking at food consumption stats.

There are some interesting anomolies. For example, Germans are second in the table for fat and sugar consumption but their obesity rates are much lower than ours

In last years stats of 192 countries India is 174 ( 4.90% of the population obese) with the UK at joint 33 (with Mexico) where 28.1% of the population is obese

Sorry meant to include a link....

http://www.symprove.com/symprove-explained?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqNWJ-oyW2QIV-ArTCh00UwwIEAAYASAAEgJuPDD_BwE

Thanks Soup, you learn something new every day. 😀

Who doesn't like milk (allergies excepted of course)? "Nice cold ice cold milk, especially with chocolate or cookies!

I gave it up because of GD/prediabetes as milk is v high in sugar, and I really really miss it.

Sorry, I meant to say yes I get your point though. Because of the size of certain populations (like India and China) the number of obese people is high even though the proportion of people who are obese is much lower than many European countries

So, China and India have the second and third highest numbers of obese people (after the USA) even though their percentages are low.

Did they rule out lactose intolerance when you were diagnosed with IBS?

Sorry to derail the thread OP. Found all of that fascinating