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3 years 4 months... Venables.

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Beansonapost · 07/02/2018 18:20

WTAF?! If you have any sympathy for this vile piece of shit, I pity you!

3 years & 4 months for a second offence ... WOW JUST WOW! He should be locked away for LIFE!

When will they accept he is completely beyond reproach and will always be a danger to the public.... especially children!

||www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42972085 venables||

"He admitted charges of making indecent images of children and one of having a "sickening" paedophile manual."

"He admitted having 392 category A images - deemed the most severe - 148 category B and 630 category C pictures"

"The court heard when Venables' computer was seized in November images were found of children, mainly aged between six and 13, although some were younger.
Mr Justice Edis said some of the images found were of babies."

"Given your history, it is significant that a number of the images and films were of serious crimes inflicted on male toddlers," he said."

What can be done to protest this?

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hidingitall · 07/02/2018 19:24

Well, this is nice and liberal.

GnotherGnu · 07/02/2018 19:24

We should all put in a request for the sentence to be reviewed.

Read the report of the sentencing remarks. It would be utterly pointless asking for a review, as the sentence is already at the top end of what is allowed by law for this crime.

It's also pointless getting worked up about it anyway. As the judge pointed out, his life licence has been revoked so in many respects the length of this sentence is irrelevant; it will ultimately be up to the Parole Board to decide when or if he should be released.

BishopBrennansArse · 07/02/2018 19:26

Whilst I am reviled by his crimes and believe he should never have freedom again for the safety of others (by whatever institution is deemed appropriate) I'm also disgusted with the mob braying for blood, castrations, execution and abortion.

It's appalling and not the actions of civilised people.

AnnaMagnani · 07/02/2018 19:26

Secure psychiatric units are very very different from prison. They are for people who need psychiatric help - he would be taking the place of someone who actually needed their help and support.

Given he has never been diagnosed with any psychiatric illness, it would be completely inappropriate.

DropItLikeASquat · 07/02/2018 19:27

this makes me feel sick, our babies need protecting and this is a pathetic ruling.

Aridane · 07/02/2018 19:28

Read the judgment. The sentence is what the sentence is - with the mandatory discount for pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity. However, he has breached the terms of his licence and this may re-trigger his original life sentence

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Beansonapost · 07/02/2018 19:29

I have read the verbatim court details.

The judge said his release, should there be one will be dependent on the parole board, the same board that approved the release of worboys.

How can the public trust them to make such decisions when we are not even privy to the justifications behind the decisions they make.

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crunchymint · 07/02/2018 19:29

I am glad that sentencing decisions are not made by the baying mob.

hidingitall · 07/02/2018 19:31

Indeed crunchy, even if their babies do need protecting

petbear · 07/02/2018 19:32

Oh get over your self @crunchymint.

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Beansonapost · 07/02/2018 19:32

Re the "mob" I think people have a right to be outraged.

I also think there comes a point where as a society we accept that someone is broken, and something substantial needs to be done.

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Birdsgottafly · 07/02/2018 19:32

"Well, this is nice and liberal."

I remove my nice liberal attitude when dealing with those who have been convicted of sexual and murder offences against children. That's aside of the violent and drug offences that were overlooked by the Police.

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DextroDependant · 07/02/2018 19:33

He should be imprisoned for life now, he has had so many chances.

I also think he should have to stick with his current identity, this is his 2nd new identity, why should he just get a fresh start every time he commits another crime. Regardless your opinion on wether he should have had one the first time, there is no denying he is now an adult, chose to commit crime as an adult and should face his punishment as anyone else would.

Sleepingbunnies · 07/02/2018 19:34

This is why we need the death penalty. I know many don’t agree but I would gladly be the one to put this scum to sleep forever and I wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep over it.

GnotherGnu · 07/02/2018 19:34

This is what happens when a criminal justice system is completely hijacked by naive, politically correct do-gooders who see violent murderers and paedophiles as ‘victims’ and blame ‘society’ for their crimes.

Utter nonsense. Only someone who knows nothing about the criminal justice system could believe this to be true.

Venables will be released, and he will kill again.

Only if a parole board lets him out, having been satisfied that he presents no risk. And, given his history of reoffending, they will be extremely reluctant to make that finding. And before anyone shrieks "Worboys", that is exactly why we should be all the more confident of that: the current judicial review and focus on that case will inevitably lead to significant changes in parole board practice.

The do-gooders who refuse to lock him up for the rest of his life will be to blame.

Name the people who are currently refusing to lock him up for the rest of his life, and tell us precisely why they will be responsible for the decisions of the parole board over the next thirty years.

Why is doing good so disgraceful anyway?

Birdsgottafly · 07/02/2018 19:34

crunchymint people want children to not be abused and killed, we aren't calling for a lynching.

SharonMott · 07/02/2018 19:35

I can see both sides of this argument. I am sure the powers that be are right and both boys had an appalling upbringing etc. but the fact that after torturing and killing James, they made the effort to place him on the railway to make it look like a train accident shows to me at least that they knew full well what they did was wrong and that they needed to make an effort to deflect blame.

Rinoachicken · 07/02/2018 19:35

A report found Venables was a "high risk of real harm to children" in the future, the court was told.
It states that he has a "long-term and profound interest in children

SURELY he won’t be released on parole after this???

GnotherGnu · 07/02/2018 19:36

The relish with which some contributors to this thread describe the serious crimes they want inflicted on Venables is, frankly, very very sick.

Sleepingbunnies · 07/02/2018 19:37

Why Gnu?

MrsMaxwell · 07/02/2018 19:39

*GnotherGnu

The relish with which some contributors to this thread describe the serious crimes they want inflicted on Venables is, frankly, very very sick*

MrsMaxwell · 07/02/2018 19:39

*I agree...

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Beansonapost · 07/02/2018 19:39

... and what I find really unpalatable is the fact that some sicko has curated a paedophilic manual... as the judge remarks it was clearly made by someone who understands anatomy...

It's out there and people are using this! I feel sick at the thought of that!

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GnotherGnu · 07/02/2018 19:39

why should he just get a fresh start every time he commits another crime. Regardless your opinion on wether he should have had one the first time, there is no denying he is now an adult, chose to commit crime as an adult and should face his punishment as anyone else would.

I can't see that anyone says that he shouldn't receive a punishment the same as that imposed on anyone else convicted of the same crimes. The point is that, if his name is generally known, he will receive "punishments" far beyond those imposed by law, precisely because of the vigilantism displayed by some people on this thread.

Not only that, but other people with the same or similar names will also suffer. Remember the mob who went after the paediatrician because they were too thick to realise that there is a significant difference between paediatricians and paedophiles?

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