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To NOT turn up for last day of work?

121 replies

BLUESEAPARADISE · 07/02/2018 13:03

Posting for a family member ,as we need opinions...

Family member has been working at a nursery for a year now ( to do an apprenticeship) and has been informed they will not be keeping her on once she passes her qualification .. ( turns out they always get people doing apprenticeships and then not keep them as it's cheaper!)

Since starting there the boss / manager and dept manager have been awful towards her ( resulting in family member being in tears multiple times) making her do ALL the cleaning ,shouting at her, calling her names and talking about her behind her back.. the only time she gets " treated like a human" is when they have show arounds or parents come into the nursery .. to put you in the picture she is in charge of cleaning the baby room, nursery, pre school rooms and also the two sleep rooms!)

She has tried talking to the members of staff about the matter but they shut her down saying " it's what you do in a nursery!"

Her last day of work will be on her birthday .. she is dreading it ..

Should she turn up for her last day ?

she is at the point now she doesn't even care if people see this post and figure out its about them.. we just need opinions and advice.

She already has all she needs from the nursery and is on the road to becoming an OFSTED registered Nanny and has two families interested in her ...

Sorry this post is all over the place just trying to put all the information in before I forget!
Thankyou

OP posts:
Pearlsaringer · 07/02/2018 13:49

She should go in. It’s the grown up thing to do.

There might be a card/gift from some of the nicer people. Even if not, as someone else has said, this can be empowering, she doesn’t have to take any nonsense from anyone on her last day.

Also she will have been paid for those hours.

Imsorrynow · 07/02/2018 13:52

I feel she should go in on her last day.
And then leave without a backward glance and her head held high.

treeofhearts · 07/02/2018 13:52

I'd go in and take the moral high ground. Be more professional than they are. Then put in a formal written complaint to whoever is above them.

BitOutOfPractice · 07/02/2018 13:54

She should go in. But in reality I don't think I would

senua · 07/02/2018 13:57

sorry, but in the adult world we go to work on our birthday. It's the last day. One more time.

This. Also, if she doesn't go in will that mean that she will lose a day's pay.
She needs to show her face but do the minimum amount of work possible

RedPanda2 · 07/02/2018 14:01

I'd definitely phone in sick. What have they done for her?
I went to the last day of last miserable job, where I was treated terribly. Did all my work and another staff members who was taking the piss. No word of thanks and no goodbyes. Wish I'd phoned that morning and told them to F off (i already had another job). It'll never happen again.

Huntinginthedark · 07/02/2018 14:03

You can’t give a negative reference about someone. You can give no reference. That’s different, she already has hers.
It’s very hard to prove someone has given a verbal bad reference though.
I personally wouldn’t go in. What are they going to do now. If she’s a good worker and comes across well in an interview, no one will phone up the nursery on top of the written reference.
and to all the people who say she’s spoilt and they were made it clean toilets with their toothbrush etc etc. Is it a race to a bottom?!
Though if it’s her birthday and she’s planning on going out, that might backfire spectacularly

HollyBayTree · 07/02/2018 14:05

Why has this not been raised through her college?

If shes doing a nursery nurse apprenticeship why was she doing the cleaning ?

This sort of underpaid labour is just exploitative and it boils my piss

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 07/02/2018 14:05

Are you sure they can't give a negative reference Hunting? I thought that was a myth and untrue.

insancerre · 07/02/2018 14:05

Of course you can give a negative reference
As long as it's truthful
What you can't do is lie

HollyBayTree · 07/02/2018 14:06

You can’t give a negative reference about someone. You can give no reference.

That ia complete myth. You cannot give an untruthful reference, you can give a factual one even if it contains negative comments, provided they are truthful.

insancerre · 07/02/2018 14:08

A written paper reference is useless in nurseries
It's a major safeguarding fail for nurseries not to contact the previous employer and ofsted do look at references
A written reference will not be sufficient as any new place she goes to will want their own reference
They will send a form or ring and speak to someone
They will then probably mention that they didn't work their notice period and phoned in sick on their past day

mogloveseggs · 07/02/2018 14:08

Even though my heart says tell her to not go in, my head says go in. References are always followed up by phone these days it seems, also they may with hold her last pay if she doesn’t turn in.

sherridan · 07/02/2018 14:10

With regard to the reference, child-care settings don’t just accept pieces of paper. They are expected to contact the employer directly so for that reason she shouldn’t just fail to turn up

coffeeforone · 07/02/2018 14:10

It's only one more day - yes I think she should just go in and suck it up, say bye to the kids/parents. Its professional to leave on as good a terms as possible. You never no when she might bump in to any of her ex-colleagues / or parents in a professional capacity in the future. I see no harm in going in and not risk slightly damaging her future reputation in the industry - just in case.

Goldenbug · 07/02/2018 14:11

Why was she doing the cleaning? Because in most nursery contracts there's a bit that says "...and any other duties that need to be done in the running of the nursery."

And saying she's got D&V may not help. Nurseries exclude children for that, but not staff. Hmm

I'd go in and be as good as I can, leave, then tell everybody I know what I think of them, especially the college, and everywhere I'll work for the next 10 years.

Goodenoughparent101 · 07/02/2018 14:12

It's not a caterpillars is it? I had exactly the same experience as a nursery nurse and was terribly anxious after years of bullying.
But I think the best revenge is success. I went and got a degree and a very well paid job with lots of holidays. I love swanning past the nursery on boiling hot summer days knowing that am the bully is in there seeing me walk past carefree and happy.
Definitely don't let your DD go in for the last day.

ilovesooty · 07/02/2018 14:14

She should inform the college of the way she's been treated but she should remain professional and go to work on the last day.

sinceyouask · 07/02/2018 14:16

sorry, but in the adult world we go to work on our birthday.

Not if you work for an employer which gives you your birthday off :)

insancerre · 07/02/2018 14:16

A lot of apprentices will do the cleaning as they are not included in ratio as the qualified staff are caring for the children

Dontwantanicknamethanks · 07/02/2018 14:18

Tricky. I'd be tempted to ring in sick if she really didn't want to go in. Especially if she felt they hated her. But if she does go in, perhaps mention as a parting shot that ofsted wouldn't appreciate that kind of management? She should definitely say something, she'll kick her self for years afterwards if she doesn't. Hth

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/02/2018 14:18

It isn’t about winning against the nursery manager. It is about self respect and doing the right thing even when others don’t. And i know you can look at that in two different ways. I would encourage her to go in. Can you pick her up after and go out for something to eat or do something nice?

Stmoritz · 07/02/2018 14:20

The worst a reference could say is she was sick on her last day. I doubt a future employer would care. I wouldn’t go in.

LemonShark · 07/02/2018 14:21

"You can’t give a negative reference about someone. You can give no reference. That’s different, she already has hers."

Sorry but that's complete and utter bullshit, I have no idea where it originated from but it's peddled around so often by people who clearly don't bother to check the misinformation they're giving out! Hmm

Of course she should go into work. She's contracted to work. Not sure how young she is but part of being an adult is going to work when you've agreed to, even if you don't particularly fancy it or get on with your coworkers. You can't just not go in because you don't feel like it or it's your birthday Confused

Hissy · 07/02/2018 14:21

Life is short, she owes them NOTHING...

She should 'call in sick' and take this treatment up with her college

it's despicable practice

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