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AIBU to think you should give your children proper names

162 replies

KeepHimJolene · 07/02/2018 08:24

and not 'rap' names. a la Stormi Jenner.

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 07/02/2018 09:17

SoupDragon the problem isn’t your name, it’s the racists dismissing you on it.

I never said it wasn’t. However, it does happen whereas your post implies that it doesn’t.

midnightmisssuki · 07/02/2018 09:17

whats it to you though? Just wanting to judge? Confused

EdmundCleverClogs · 07/02/2018 09:18

AccrualIntentions, does that mean anyone other than Kylie Minogue named Kylie has to be referred to by their full name? Does this refer to others that share celebrity names, like Madonna or Sonya?

I would also like to know what a ‘rap’ name is. Whilst Stormi is not a name I’d choose, I can’t see how it’s that awful. Plenty of people add the ‘ee’ sound to names these days. Typical MN snobbery going on here.

UnimaginativeUsername · 07/02/2018 09:20

Well yes. There is the whole septimus thing.

I can imagine a name like Stormi being quite unremarkable in many school playgrounds in the uk, tbh. I don’t really understand why the OP is so bothered about it.

SoupDragon · 07/02/2018 09:21

You are sailing very close to the wind with that comment. A foreign name? Since when did we start calling any name foreign? You clearly don't come from anywhere multi cultural otherwise you would be used to the wide and varied names from around the world.

I’m really not. I am referring to research done by the BBC and shown as a documentary or part of a documentary. You ca take your incorrect assumptions as shove them somewhere dark. At no point did I say they were my feelings.

Why not treat yourself to a trip to London or Manchester and open your eyes and learn something new.

LOLOL. Hilarious. 😂 Trust me, I don’t need to go anywhere and nor do I handed to have my eyes opened to anything.

80sMum · 07/02/2018 09:21

I'm not sure if I agree, OP. Every name was used for the first time once upon a time, iyswim.

JaceLancs · 07/02/2018 09:22

I also get tired of the old - it will affect your ability to get a job
When I score job applicants to decide who to call for interview - all names dob gender etc are on a separate front sheet and are removed before I see them
I then score based on whether they meet the criteria listed I have no idea who they are unless they put something very identifying in their work experience section eg could be an internal candidate or a former employee
Anyone who cv sifts based on name is engaging in very dubious HR practice

ToriaPumpkin · 07/02/2018 09:22

I went to school with siblings called Storm and Ocean 20 years ago. I lived in a very rural part of Britain and they were perfectly normal children from a perfectly normal family. On the scale of "not normal" names this one is pretty low.

MiddleClassProblem · 07/02/2018 09:23

SoupDragon my post implies it doesn’t happen? Where? My post implies that it does and we stand up to it. I’ve bloody well had it happen to me!

DriggleDraggle · 07/02/2018 09:25

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upsideup · 07/02/2018 09:26

What is a proper name? A name that appears in the top 100 that year so you can guaruntee your child has 3 other people in their class with the same name?

Catabogus · 07/02/2018 09:29

If he was a plumber would it be a plumber name?

Funnily enough, I was musing the other day that “Armitage Shanks” would be a pretty good name for a DS...

SoupDragon · 07/02/2018 09:30

my post implies it doesn’t happen?

Sorry, I thought you were the poster who said it didn’t happen “in the real world”

Shadow666 · 07/02/2018 09:37

No, I said in the real world very few people care. Maybe I'm naive but I'd like to believe most people are not prejudiced. Of course some are but there's a mixture of kids names that I work with and I don't see a link between names and intelligence or behavior.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 07/02/2018 09:37

DM once said that children should be named after saints, not vegetation. I suppose this could be extended to natural phenomena.
My DGS has two unremarkable English names, precisely because his dad has an unusually spelled name with "sink estate" overtones. He didn't want his son to be constantly explaining himself. DD insisted as well that his surname be paternal; ours is about the least common English surname and no one can spell it correctly.

RingFence · 07/02/2018 09:39

I think a name should be chosen carefully, as the child will be stuck with it their entire life. I know a Storm (in her 20s) and she hates her name, and goes by a different name at work. People make jokes about her being hot tempered, wild or make My Little Pony references.

I would never give a child a name that's usually reserved for pets, e.g. Felix, Saffron, Cinnamon etc. Or a name that means something else, like Fin (just makes me think of fins). Names like Bear, Hunter etc also make me cringe. Great as a nickname, embarrassing for the child when they have to introduce themselves in a formal setting!

Amanduh · 07/02/2018 09:40

Sounds like a stripper.

sallyarmy1 · 07/02/2018 09:44

Personally I think that a name does define a person.

It can define the era the child was born in, the fashionable celebs at the time, the TV programmes/films that were popular.

Or should that be that it defines the mentality of the parents that give their kids these names.

Gawd have mercy on them and may their kids forgive them.

SoupDragon · 07/02/2018 09:50

Maybe I'm naive but I'd like to believe most people are not prejudiced. Of course some are but there's a mixture of kids names that I work with and I don't see a link between names and intelligence or behavior.

Unfortunately research has proved otherwise, although I’m not sure how widespread it is.

I don’t understand it either though. You can’t tell someone’s character from their name.

noeffingidea · 07/02/2018 09:51

Has anybody mentioned Zowie Bowie or Moon unit Zappa yet?

SoupDragon · 07/02/2018 09:55

Zowie Bowie is now called Duncan Jones. Although I think that was always his name with Zowie being the middle one.

Moon Unit only uses Moon which perhaps isn’t so bad by modern standards.

Celebrities have been giving their children “out there” names for a long time. I do think it is easier for a celebrity child to carry them off though.

UgandanKnuckles · 07/02/2018 10:03

I think I'd rather be called something like Stormi than be yet another Olivia/ Amelia/ Poppy/ etc

k2p2k2tog · 07/02/2018 10:06

why can't a stormi in an average UK home grow into her name and become something amazing?

Nobody said that she couldn't....

But if you're the child of a Kardashian, or a Russian oligarch, or Beyonce or a film star everyone knows who you are and you will never have to bother yourself about details like working for a living. It's OK If you're called Stormi, or Romeo, or Apple, or whatever other out-there names celebs come up with for their kids because all of your social circle has similarly odd names.

However for those of us in the real world, with kids who are going to have to go to uni, get a job, deal with people who don't immediately recognise them from the gossip rags need a name which is more conventional. That doesn't mean calling everyone James or Susan, it just means that you choose someting which doesn't condemn your child to a lifetime of saying "Yes, Apple. Like the fruit" or "Yes it's pronounced Emily but I spell it E-M-M-Y-apostrophe-L-E-E-H-Y"

MichaelBendfaster · 07/02/2018 10:14

YABU. I'd love a street name. In fact, some friends and I have a running joke about what our street names are. I'd genuinely love to go by mine, but for a white, middle-class 'metropolitan elite' type it'd be somewhat risible.