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AIBU to think you should give your children proper names

162 replies

KeepHimJolene · 07/02/2018 08:24

and not 'rap' names. a la Stormi Jenner.

OP posts:
SandyY2K · 07/02/2018 08:43

I think it's the parents choice and there's nothing wrong with that name.

What constitutes a 'proper name'?

corythatwas · 07/02/2018 08:43

Inclined to agree with Shadow here. Yes, there may be situations where your name gives you slightly less favourable treatment. But nowhere near the scale of what MN would have you believe.

It's on a par with the MN legend that if you didn't get 4 A-stars at A-level, your life is basically over.

rocketgirl22 · 07/02/2018 08:45

Genuinely in the sea of unidentifiable beige to be gifted with a name that is different and stands out is no bad thing. It is individual and personal.

Too much judgement and not enough live and let live.

KeepHimJolene · 07/02/2018 08:47

Nothing racist, how the hell did this turn into an 'is it a racist comment' thread. It's the whole individual moniker thing, giving kids names where they are identified/saddled with only one outlandish name. Absolutely zero to do with the father's profession, I mean he's hardly well known except for his relationship with KJ.

OP posts:
WingsOnMyBoots · 07/02/2018 08:47

My cat is called Gracie...

rocketgirl22 · 07/02/2018 08:48

My dh works with a Jihadi, he is french moroccan and is the most amazing financial whizz.

If you have confidence or talent or both any name can be turned into a positive.

Commuterface · 07/02/2018 08:49

Bit racist.

Bit idiotic

GreatFuckability · 07/02/2018 08:50

oh do bore off, OP. There is literally no such thing as a 'proper' name. the name Wendy was once invented by JM Barrie. NO name was ever always a name.

UnimaginativeUsername · 07/02/2018 08:52

I totally agree that people should give children proper names. However, I can’t think what would constitute an improper name. Maybe if you decided to simply call your children ‘one’, ‘two’, ‘three’ and so on in the order they were born. Although maybe that’s a cultural thing somewhere too.

I don’t see that Stormi is not ‘proper’ name. You disliking it doesn’t make it invalid as a name.

MiddleClassProblem · 07/02/2018 08:53

Then why is it a “rap” name”? Did you mean a “celebrity name”?

I think those calling racism are getting it from that and I thought you meant because he’s a rapper...

I’m not sure why it’s a “rap” name rather than a different name although I grew up around a lot of people who had names like this so it’s doesn’t seem odd to me.

UnimaginativeUsername · 07/02/2018 08:54

Somebody will also tell the story of the baby called Chlamydia or L-sha. It’s so tedious.

Give how long the La-a urban myth has been around, I find it hard to believe that someone, somewhere hasn’t decided to call their daughter it by now. It just strikes me as the sort of thing people would do.

elisenbrunnen · 07/02/2018 08:57

I just think the 'i' on the end makes it look like it should be pronounced Storm-eye! Just imagine that shouted in the East Enda Lundon!

rocketgirl22 · 07/02/2018 08:58

It is hugely liberating to be able to escape the idea of somewhat stifling boundaries of 'proper' names and be more creative.
Proper names for some families are so boring and so last generation, along with church on Sundays and too much formality.

Being able to choose your child's name is very special and may reflect your values as a family be that artistic or traditional. Either way all children's names should be respected regardless.

AccrualIntentions · 07/02/2018 08:59

Yes it's a bit of a wanky name but this child is unlikely to be growing up to want to be a civil servant or something so it won't matter.

I'm more outraged by people referring to Kylie Jenner as Kylie. Kylie Minogue is Kylie, Kylie Jenner is Kylie Jenner.

TathitiPete · 07/02/2018 08:59

I know Kim's kids' names are on the unusual side; North, Saint and Chicago but I believe Kourtneys children have less 'out there' monikers. She has a Penelope and a Mason. Although a third called Reign. And then Rob has a Dream. (If there are any other third gen Kar-Jens that I've forgotten I can only apologise.)

Two things I notice about Kris Kardashian's grandchildren. 1) Not one 'K' name 2) No theme at all, alliterative initials or otherwise.

Fekko · 07/02/2018 08:59

I met a lovely little girl called Cushelle. Like the loo roll. And it was her name and that’s how it was spelled (I saw her passport).

ShutYoFace · 07/02/2018 09:02

There is literally no such thing as a 'proper' name. the name Wendy was once invented by JM Barrie. NO name was ever always a name

But thats just not true, is it? No, no name arrived out of the sky at the dawn of creation, you're right. But some names are proper names and some are not', and we all know it.

This particular one, heard worse. And who gives a fuck about this family anyway, stop talking about them as if they matter to anyone or anything!

stoneagefertilitydoll · 07/02/2018 09:03

Maybe if you decided to simply call your children ‘one’, ‘two’, ‘three’ and so on in the order they were born. Although maybe that’s a cultural thing somewhere too.

I think it is - the whole 'Septimus' etc. naming convention is number based...

Names are all made up - none is more 'proper' than another, although some might have cultural significance/longevity. I really can't get wound up about it. Kids grow into their names in my experience.

k2p2k2tog · 07/02/2018 09:04

No idea who these people are or their ethnicity. I have heard of the Kardashians - impossible to avoid them - and i do know they have a reputation for having ridiculous names.

It would probably be more noteworthy if a new addition to the clan had been called Thomas or Elizabeth.

A child growing up hugely privileged in New York or wherever and mixing with other children called ridiculous things can carry off a silly name like Stormi. On a child growing up in a very average home in the UK it's just even more ridiculous.

SoupDragon · 07/02/2018 09:05

According to MN legend if you don’t have a middle class name or if you have a foreign name then your CV will be shredded.

In the real world, very few people care.

It’s not just on MN though. They have proved it in the “real world” repeatedly. Those with foreign names are less likely to be offered an interview despite equal CVS.

As for L-a, there is a L’a on the ancestry.co.uk database of birth entries.

rocketgirl22 · 07/02/2018 09:09

Ks

That is a very elitist thing to say, why can't a stormi in an average UK home grow into her name and become something amazing?

Following your conclusion that the average child from the UK will basically amount to nothing much, therefore is undeserving of a creative name is entirely offensive.

rocketgirl22 · 07/02/2018 09:11

soup dragon

You are sailing very close to the wind with that comment. A foreign name? Since when did we start calling any name foreign? You clearly don't come from anywhere multi cultural otherwise you would be used to the wide and varied names from around the world.

Why not treat yourself to a trip to London or Manchester and open your eyes and learn something new.

MiddleClassProblem · 07/02/2018 09:11

Sorry, but are “proper” names, Christian names? Unless you’re not British or American and have the equivalent of “non proper” name in another language I’m not sure many on here demanding it would have a clue.

Situp · 07/02/2018 09:14

As soneone who grew up with a last name which nobody could say or spell, I am really glad my parents gave me a really standard first name.

Foe me, the only issue is when the name we give puts undue pressure on our kids to emulate that name.

MiddleClassProblem · 07/02/2018 09:16

SoupDragon the problem isn’t your name, it’s the racists dismissing you on it.

Should all of us with “foreign” names or “non proper” names change them for better work prospects? Just role over and give in to racism? Nope