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As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump

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PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2018 22:23



Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo
Nunes suggested that Donald Trump had never met with George Papadopoulos. There's a photo of them sitting at the same table.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603


And we certainly didn't have a national security meeting right here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3150505-The-one-in-which-Trump-orders-his-staff-to-fire-Mueller-and-they-give-him-the-finger?pg=1
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OuaisMaisBon · 06/02/2018 05:33

Tammy Duckworth
‏Verified account @SenDuckworth
5h5 hours ago

Tammy Duckworth Retweeted Andrea Mitchell

We don't live in a dictatorship or a monarchy. I swore an oath—in the military and in the Senate—to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to mindlessly cater to the whims of Cadet Bone Spurs and clap when he demands I clap

Tammy Duckworth added,
Andrea Mitchell
Verified account @mitchellreports
In Ohio @realDonaldTrump suggests democrats who didn’t applaud him during #SOTU could be committing treason. “can you call that treason? I mean why not?” he asked ....
Perhaps Don McGahan can explain it to him?
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Tammy Duckworth
‏Verified account @SenDuckworth
5h5 hours ago

In case Trump doesn't have a Constitution handy, I went ahead and found the definition of treason from Article 3 for him:
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Tammy Duckworth
‏Verified account @SenDuckworth
6h6 hours ago

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 06:31

Sean Hannity blames Obama for historic market crash

Hannity: "The era of cheap money at some point has to come to an end"

www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/02/05/sean-hannity-blames-obama-historic-market-crash/219279

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 06:33

The trump tweet about the dow Jones isn’t real sadly, as ouais said

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 06:44

I don’t really want to keep up with what nunes’ latest stunt is but in the interests of being informed

Nunes tells Hannity: Clinton collaborated with Russia to frame Trump

www.thedailybeast.com/nunes-tells-hannity-clinton-collaborated-with-russia-to-frame-trump/?via=twitter_page

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kalapattar · 06/02/2018 06:46

I saw that 'tweet' last night - it does sound like the kind of thing Trump would say - but you can check on Trump's twitter archive.

Believable...but fake.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 07:02

Matt McDermott
@mattmfm
A remarkable subversion of our democracy continues in Pennsylvania. After losing their fight at the Supreme Court, Republicans are now threatening to impeach members of the state Supreme Court who found the congressional map to be an unconstitutional gerrymander.

Also

Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
The Pennsylvanian supreme court stuck down an effort by Republicans to rig elections through an egregious gerrymander

Now Republicans have launched an effort to IMPEACH THE STATE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES

<a class="break-all" href="https://thinkprogress.org/pennsylvania-republican-launches-effort-to-impeach-state-supreme-court-to-save-gop-gerrymander-408544a51b96/amp/#click=t.co/vN0SyAr4gA" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">thinkprogress.org/pennsylvania-republican-launches-effort-to-impeach-state-supreme-court-to-save-gop-gerrymander-408544a51b96/amp/#click=t.co/vN0SyAr4gA

And a really good thread about it here:

mobile.twitter.com/cFidd/status/960686529722159104

As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump
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boatyardblues · 06/02/2018 07:03

I love the directness and righteousness of Tammy Duckworth’s tweets, but the way things are going she’ll likely be one of the first against the wall come the revolution. Still, you can’t fault the clarity of her tweets.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 07:06

Randy Bryce
@IronStache
Miguel Perez Jr. is a fellow US veteran. He served two tours of duty fighting to protect our country. He has two children. And he's currently being held in a detention center in WI-01 because Trump's ICE wants to deport him.

Free Miguel now.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/04/us/ice-possible-deportation-veteran/index.html

And

Republican Bill Would Treat Low-Income Dreamers as Criminals

The House bill and criticism of Trump’s plan from the right don’t bode well for the chances of passing a bipartisan immigration bill.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/02/republican-bill-would-treat-low-income-dreamers-as-criminals/

And

Leaked DHS document recommends continuous, long-term surveillance of Muslim men

www.thedailybeast.com/leaked-dhs-draft-pushes-surveillance-of-muslim-men?via=twitter_page

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 06/02/2018 07:13

From up thread:
His lawyers are concerned that Trump could be charged with lying to investigators.

To anyone (ginghambox) out here wondering whether Trump is fit for office... Even his own lawyers admit that he is incapable of telling the truth. (Irrespective of what that truth may end up being!)

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OuaisMaisBon · 06/02/2018 07:14

Blush Have to admit I thought I was only joking about that tweet being fake news Blush

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 07:19

I wasn’t sure if you were or not so hedged my bets Wink

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TheClaws · 06/02/2018 07:21

Oops! I should have checked that. No excuse Blush

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OuaisMaisBon · 06/02/2018 07:26

It was a tweet to MAGA, TheClaws, understandable one Blush wouldn't realise it was fake, given how true to Trump form it was!

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 07:32

A cheery early morning read

Trumpocracy: Tracking the Creeping Authoritarianism of the 45th President

Conspiracy theories, attacks on the press, praise for tyrants, and other troubling moves by the Trump administration.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/creeping-authoritarianism-trump-trumpocracy-300/

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lionheart · 06/02/2018 07:36
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lionheart · 06/02/2018 07:42
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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 07:46

Justin Hendrix
@justinhendrix
One of the most dangerous assumptions those concerned with the rule of law and the Russia investigation can make is that the facts are all that matter.

Right now many on the left are relishing the response to the Nunes memo. The Meh-mo. And they are right, in the context of the factual universe. Here, the memo backfired. The memo made Donald Trump and the GOP look bad. The memo did nothing to vindicate the President.

But that's not the only context that matters. There is also the upside down. The alternate universe where Nunes is a hero. "Let's release the memo, Mr. President." "Don't worry, 100%".

It's that alternate universe where this is happening. "President Trump's attorneys have already approved the idea of appointing a second special counsel to investigate the FBI and Justice Department's actions during the 2016 presidential campaign."

www.axios.com/white-house-trump-lawyers-approved-of-a-second-special-counsel-6edafd54-c4d7-4ae6-80b7-c7c312b8ca51.html

In this world, investigating the investigators makes sense. Mueller is suspect. The FBI, the entire DOJ is suspect. Sure, there aren't any facts. But there are questions.

And questions are all that you need. Read: "Conspiracism is not new, of course, but the conspiracism we see today does introduce something new—conspiracy without the theory. And it betrays a new destructive impulse: to delegitimate the government."

www.dissentmagazine.org/article/conspiracy-theories-politics-infowars-threat-democracy

.@EJDionne sees it clearly. "The autocratic leader lies and then falsely charges his opponents with lying. He politicizes institutions that are supposed to be free of politics by falsely accusing his foes of politicizing them."

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/nunes-paves-trumps-road-to-autocracy/2018/02/04/856a6a8a-0860-11e8-b48c-b07fea957bd5_story.html#click=t.co/f34Y4XhNr3" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/nunes-paves-trumps-road-to-autocracy/2018/02/04/856a6a8a-0860-11e8-b48c-b07fea957bd5_story.html#click=t.co/f34Y4XhNr3

So, by all means, let's fact check the hell out of Devin Nunes. But let's not pretend that it's all that is necessary to win. To believe that is to surrender to the autocrat, who has arrived. He is here. It is now.

Robert Reich
@RBReich
This is bonkers. Can you imagine if Nixon had appointed a Special Prosecutor to investigate the Special Prosecutor who was investigating Nixon?

Justin Hendrix
@justinhendrix
Reich is right- this is perilous.

I've come around to this point of view:

Oliver Willis
@owillis
Treat the average republican elected official like a 9/11 truther or ufo fanatic and suddenly you’ll get why these nerdy responses are completely wasted

Justin Hendrix
@justinhendrix
Data:

<a class="break-all" href="http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372460-most-republicans-believe-fbi-doj-trying-to-delegitimize-trump-poll?amp#click=t.co/llnLqaqdmJ" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">thehill.com/homenews/administration/372460-most-republicans-believe-fbi-doj-trying-to-delegitimize-trump-poll?amp#click=t.co/llnLqaqdmJ

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Lweji · 06/02/2018 07:49

I know that Colbert is always right.💓💔💕💖💗💙💚💛💜💝💞💟❣

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lionheart · 06/02/2018 07:55

'Before joining the Trump administration, the White House principal deputy press secretary, Raj Shah, called President Donald Trump “a deplorable” and referred to the release of the Access Hollywood tape as “some justice,” according to private messages independently obtained and verified by New York. Shah, who worked at the Republican National Committee during the 2016 election, also asked an RNC colleague to dig up an old video clip of Trump that shortly afterward showed up in a Jeb Bush commercial.'


nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/white-house-official-called-trump-a-deplorable.html

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lettuceWrap · 06/02/2018 07:57

Snopes says that the cannonball tweet is (sadly) fake.

It’ll be interesting to see Trump’s tweets (probably blaming Obama and/or the Dems), about yesterday’s precipitous Dow drop. I can’t imagine he’ll stay quiet about it for long.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/02/2018 08:07

Hannitys already on it so it won’t be long before trump picks up the same line

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 06/02/2018 08:14

What Quais said here with yuge golden knobs on!

Pain - #11 and #12 of David Roberts's list above should be writ large on hoardings all over the internet/US equivalent of Fleet Street.

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Minimammoth · 06/02/2018 08:35

Is there a new definition of ‘ intelligence’ that I don’t know about?

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lionheart · 06/02/2018 09:16

A trickle of good news if you look hard enough.

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Gumpendorf · 06/02/2018 09:17

Thanks for the new thread Perking

And thanks for the links Pain. Very disturbing and it's what we have been seeing with Trump and Brexit. The facts don't matter. Everything is reduced to he said/she said. The press/media do have the main responsibility here.

And that treason tweet was to start to normalise treason in the same way as they've normalised obstruction. What was a big shock horror for past presidents is just something that happens. Move along now, there'll be something new to entertain you soon. 🤯

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