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As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump

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PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2018 22:23

Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo
Nunes suggested that Donald Trump had never met with George Papadopoulos. There's a photo of them sitting at the same table.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603

And we certainly didn't have a national security meeting right here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3150505-The-one-in-which-Trump-orders-his-staff-to-fire-Mueller-and-they-give-him-the-finger?pg=1

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cozietoesie · 07/02/2018 23:23

45 has made a BAD mistake if he thinks to take on Wall St.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/02/2018 23:28

Filibustering is when a member of the House or Senate takes the floor and starts talking and doesn't stop or 'yield the floor'. It's usually done as a tactic to prevent a vote, make a deadline pass with no action, or to pressure the other side to consider an issue. In this case, she was filibustering to try and get the House to consider a DACA extension.

It looks like she yielded the floor after 8 hours 7 minutes. I'm not sure why she stopped. I think it's too soon after for that to hit the news and we weren't watching C-Span

boatyardblues · 07/02/2018 23:31

I’d say her bladder control was commendable. Perhaps she needed the loo.

cozietoesie · 08/02/2018 00:13

Holder is going to run then? Wink

TheClaws · 08/02/2018 02:02

The Breitbarters and Fox heads are predictably criticising Pelosi for “caring more” about immigrants and “aliens” than actual Americans. Hmm

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 06:17

Officials at ICE are actively exploring joining the Intelligence Community, The Daily Beast has learned.

Civil libertarians call the prospect "frankly terrifying."

ICE Wants to Be an Intelligence Agency Under Trump
amp.thedailybeast.com/ice-wants-to-be-an-intelligence-agency-under-trump?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 06:37

Jim Acosta
@Acosta
Why did WH release statement from Kelly praising Porter? Senior WH official says WH wrote glowing statements about Porter in response to Daily Mail story but before the latest report that included black eye photograph. The black eye photograph changed everything, I'm told.
1:37 am · 8 Feb 2018

Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
This is almost certainly dishonest spin. The black eye photograph was given to the FBI months ago. It is inconceivable that the FBI didn’t brief the WH on it after the background check. They have known for months.

And

Elizabeth Landers
@ElizLanders
Here’s the new statement from the chief of staff, saying he was “shocked” by allegations against Rob Porter:

"I was shocked by the new allegations released today against Rob Porter. There is no place for domestic violence in our society. I stand by my previous comments of the Rob Porter that I have come to know since becoming Chief of Staff, and believe every individual deserves the right to defend their reputation. I accepted his resignation earlier today, and will ensure a swift and orderly transition.

Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
Uh huh. Who at the WH did the FBI brief on the results of its background check, and who else did those people tell? Why did you think Porter wasn't given a permanent security clearance & why did you let him continue in his job without one?

Until the White House gives a full timeline on what the FBI told them about Porter and who decided to let him continue in his job, there is zero reason to believe anything they say.

And

Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
White House staff secretary Rob Porter will be out of the West Wing far sooner than @PressSec indicated today — as soon as tomorrow, one official says, as WH tries to contain fallout from how it has handled this.
2:13 am · 8 Feb 2018

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Major WH clean-up job underway now after WH initially defended Rob Porter amid domestic abuse allegations

And

Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
In sum:

-- White House knew about domestic abuse allegations, hired Rob Porter anyway

-- When abuse was reported, White House coordinated release of laudatory statements about Porter's character

-- Tried to convince him not to resign

-- Now say he could stay on for weeks

And

Gabriel Sherman
@gabrielsherman
I hope the press corps today asks John Kelly and @PressSec why they defended an accused serial wife beater on the record. What message does that send to women and girls?

Eric Boehlert
@EricBoehlert
btw, CNN dragged Hillary for five days bc 10 yrs ago she didn't fire campaign staffer--will CNN drag a GOP man for five days for employing known wife beater??

Alex Singer
@AlexCSinger16
Hillary regrets not sufficiently punishing worker who sexually harassed coworkers. She is tarred and feathered by the media.

John Kelly and the ENTIRE WH go to bat, deny allegations for a literal WIFE BEATER and "meh".

Yeah, sexism had NOTHING to do with 2016...

And

Walter Shaub
@waltshaub
So John Kelly, often touted as the White House's adult, falsely smeared a congresswoman, tells us a failure to compromise on slavery caused the civil war, called dreamers lazy, and protected a wife beater. Tell us again, @PressSec, how we're never allowed to criticize a general.

And

Emily Nussbaum
@emilynussbaum
Ya know Bannon also hit his ex-wife & no one gave a damn. This is a pattern with these guys, not an exception.

And

David Martosko
@dmartosko
If you haven't seen this anonymous blog post by Rob Porter's ex-wife Jennie Willoughby, make sure your sitting down before you click.

<a class="break-all" href="http://www.bornebackceaselessly.com/journal/2017/4/24/why-i-stayed?format=amp#click=t.co/zfWGYUEoWD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.bornebackceaselessly.com/journal/2017/4/24/why-i-stayed?format=amp#click=t.co/zfWGYUEoWD

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Ashley Parker
@AshleyRParker
Pence in Tokyo said he’d just learned about the allegations of domestic abuse against Rob Porter this morning. He declined to answer a follow up about why he often seems out of the loop when it comes to controversial White House staff news.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 06:42

Phil Mattingly
@Phil_Mattingly
Juuuust about ready to file the budget agreement (in the form of a substitute amendment to the House-passed CR) in the Senate
Will officially kick the process into gear. Still tbd on cloture vote timing.
4:24 am · 8 Feb 2018

Manu Raju
@mkraju
How a law is made: Unveil legislation shortly before midnight of a deal worked out between leaders behind closed doors, with members having little time to read it; jam it through both chambers Thursday with just hours before shutdown deadline. #congress.

The just-posted bill is 652 pages and hardly anyone in Congress has read it. www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Bipartisan%20Budget%20Act%20of%202018.pdf

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 06:48

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Mike Conaway, the Republican running the Russia probe, won’t say if House Intel will subpoena Lewandowski after Schiff called for one. But he confirmed to me that Lewandowski told the committee he would NOT return to answer lawmakers’ questions

And Pete King, senior Republican on the panel, opposes issuing subpoena to Lewandowksi, telling me he answered “90 percent” of HPSCI’s questions last month

After Schiff demands subpoeana for Lewandowski about matters after he left the campaign, GOP is non-committal. Conaway: "I don't talk about what I might do" re subpoeana. King: "No" Lewandowski shouldn't be subpoeana bc he answered "99%" of questions snpy.tv/2C1wHnR

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 07:12

Big Russian delegation anticipated for prayer breakfast in Washington

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/07/politics/russia-delegation-washington-prayer-breakfast/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 08:15

A “parallels” post:

Look at how the very same bogey man so feared and reviled by the alt right in America (and who is also used as a stand in target for all Jewish people) is being treated by the main stream media in the uk. Alex jones would be so proud

As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump
Anniegetyourgun · 08/02/2018 08:19

Ahem, may I just point out it's Trooping the Colour, not Trooping of the Colour? Thank you.

Meanwhile, I suggest this excellent martial music, by a respected American composer no less, as background for the forthcoming ceremony:

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/02/2018 08:21

More on those parallels

INCIVIL CONTINGENCIES: #1 THE DICTATORSHIP

www.byline.com/column/67/article/2040

Lweji · 08/02/2018 08:36

He's not so much Darth Vader as Dark Helmet, though.

Having said that, who else thinks he inspired Kylo Ren's personality as depicted in the last SW? Childish, raging, low self esteem.

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 08/02/2018 08:54

Lweji don't say that! I rather liked Kylo Ren.

lionheart · 08/02/2018 09:36

Accounts.

Qasim Rashid, Esq.

Verified account

@MuslimIQ
18h18 hours ago

What $22M on a #MilitaryParade CAN buy:
•Hot meals for 220M Americans
•College tuition for 2200 students
•Opioid Rehab for 1500 ppl
•Adoption of 630 orphans
•An apartment for 220 homeless
•Suicide prevention for 22 Vets/day

What a $22M Military parade CANNOT buy:
•Respect

TheClaws · 08/02/2018 10:21

North Korea staged their military parade after all. I did catch the end of it live, via live stream. The stream I was watching then mysteriously vanished - not usually the case.

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42971097

lionheart · 08/02/2018 10:28

'A border patrol agent whose death Donald Trump has invoked to build support for a border wall was likely not killed in an attack, the FBI said.'

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-border-wall-latest-mexico-agent-killed-texas-rogelio-martinez-a8199956.html

cozietoesie · 08/02/2018 11:38

Thanks, lion.

Yep. It looks as if he's going to run. That photo! Grin

lionheart · 08/02/2018 12:13
Smile
GingerIvy · 08/02/2018 12:53

Kyle Griffin

Verified account

@kylegriffin1
10h10 hours ago
Officials at ICE are actively exploring joining the Intelligence Community, The Daily Beast has learned.

Civil libertarians call the prospect "frankly terrifying." www.thedailybeast.com/ice-wants-to-be-an-intelligence-agency-under-trump