C4 now - the James Bulger case **Trigger Warning - Contains Info about the case** (Title edited by MNHQ)

[Hairgician]

Sat watching this now.

I do not accept the view that those 2 boys were treated unfairly. They murdered that poor little boy and they knew what they were doing and that it was wrong.

They should be rotting in jail. Aibu to say justice not served??

PLEASE every body go on Denise Fergus (bulger) face book page and sign her petition for her son james.

She needs 100k people to sign.

That is a good point Super - they should have been assessed as individuals.

I'm watching some documentaries on this case it's heartbreaking his mother must of blamed herself but it isn't her fault they completely destroyed so many people's lives bit they're protected it's a joke

lilac what is the petition for?

She is asking for a public enquiry. Idk why she wants to do this. I don’t understand what outcome she is looking for. There will be no change of sentence for example.

I think @SuperBeagle has made a very good point, that the two boys should have been dealt with separately. Thompson would have been rightly freed whereas Venables would have been moved to an adult prison. They had indeterminate sentences (minimum 8 years) so that could easily have been done very easily.

That's the sort of thing that could be looked at in a public enquiry. But Denise Fergus's biggest issue is that she's not being informed about developments and is finding out through the media. The media handling of this should certainly be looked at.

I am really shocked at some of the sympathy that the two boys are getting on here, to the point where the shocking acts that have been done to him, are being downplayed and put to the side.

I feel that this is an insult to Jame's and his family. The boys were obviously disturbed, it was not only their home life, but quite possibly they had something wrong with their mind which developed over time. They still did what they did, and killed a little boy in the most horrific and prolonged attack, their sentence does not reflect the nature of their crime, they should have had a longer custodial sentence. Especially one of them keeps re offending, and is a paedophile. I will be signing Denise Fergus petition to help her get justice for James.

I will be signing Denise Fergus petition to help her get justice for James

Thank you x

Here is a link to the petition

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/206851

I am sure it that happened to your child, you would be fighting for justice for every last breath, because I know I would as a mum to two young children.

Lizzie
Thank you for your answer. Those are all valid points. I will sign. I just obviously wanted to understand the reasons behind it. If having an enquiry will change how the whole situation would be handled in future, this would be a very good thing.

Reanimated, you go tell that to Denise Fergus then! Who for her and Ralph, justice has not been done, it has not.

Aeroflotgirl well said.
I don't get half the comments on here.
Those boys tortured that baby. Poor denise & Ralph & their children now are still living with what they planned & carried out.
I don't understand how they get to live their lives without any consequence. People saying T is married/ in a relationship.
How is that right? & actually the person who would want to keep a relationship going with him scares me too. What normal person would want to be married to some one who has done that?
V is locked up for a v v long time hopefully so our children are a littls safer.
But there is no way the other one is safe. To be as sick & twisted as what he was then no real justice. A few years in a secure unit (which sounds a lot better than his home life anyway) is not right for what they did.
My only sympathy lies with the Bulger family.

excessive, obsessive rehashing of a horrible case

What? It's James's mothers petition!

Attention-seeking? Blimey have a bit of compassion!

I don't think there's anything dubious in thinking a baby murdering paedophile who has proved he is beyond redemption should not be free to walk the streets.

Oh FFS. Another attention-seeking and pointless petition

What an unkind thing to post. For all you know James’s mother & family could be reading this thread.

He is currently having that decision made about him petition or not

Likewise what about the adults who even stopped the boys and let them go? I guess they would feel an element of guilt too.

They definitely did - I remember hearing about a woman witness at the trial who had come across them that day whilst walking her dog. I forget which story they told her - I think that he was their little brother or something and they were taking him home to his mother - but I do know that she said at the trial that she hadn't had a night's sleep since, poor woman. I might well have believed them too. Who could have foreseen what they did?

Christ Reanimated, have you no compassion?!

I don't think it's a lack of compassion to think that all this slavering and obsessing is harmful and pointless. Nothing can change what happened. The killing of children by children remains incredibly rare. Stirring up idiots to bay for blood, vengeance or Something To Be Done is not only stupid but potentially harmful (there is documented evidence of the harm done in several cases by the tabloid press pushing this witless vigilantism and sentimentality on the unthinking members of the public.)

What I don't understand is that after Venables went back into prison in 2010 he was released 2 years or so later. He was eligible for parole in 2011 and James' had to go through everything again in what I assume were impact statements. He was refused at that point but still released a year later. As he was on conditional release from 2001 I don't understand why he wasn't in for longer when taken back in, it's as if it had never been considered that it was a possibility so no one knew what to do it seems.

Back in again in 2017 and charged last month. Reports say he could face lifetime in prison but it's not a given. I imagine things such as Denises petition may assist in ensuring depending criminals are sentenced properly. The parole board should be utterly ashamed that they have put children/public at risk by releasing Venables not once but twice already. Who knows what else he has done and not been caught for it.

Obviously can't comment on Thompson. He is either rehabilitated or hasn't been caught reoffending. We will never know due to his protection order.

A pp mentioned about the fact it is reported that Thompson had the worst childhood of the 2 would suggest they rehabilitation is a possibility whereas maybe it is a case of a more complex issue with Venables that cannot be fixed.