To think “like fuck should it be made easier”

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For men to work in refuges.

The Sunday Times are reporting that Women’s Aid are looking at how to make it easier for trans identifying men to work in their refuges. Women who have recently been raped or seriously abused are being put at risk of bein re traumatised in the name of liberal bullshit. Women are being put at risk of not being able to access services because they need female only spaces in the name of being fucking “nice”. Women are being sold down this shitty river, and have no paddle.

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YANBU. That is all.

If you really care, fill in the consultation for the Scottish government and outline your concerns around self id.

Write to your MP, though if they are labour good luck, labour have bought into trans ideology hook, line and sinker.

I agree. I really can’t agree with you more.

Vulnerable women are being thrown under the bus for some right-on flat earth twattery.

Do you have a link for the Scottish consultation?

@sexnotgender

Done.

And

Done - my MPs response actually used the word “cis”. So that was nice.

YADNBU - we seem to have reached a new level of crazy

Vulnerable women are being thrown under the bus for some right-on flat earth twattery

Absolutely agree. Transwomen who feel strongly about this sort of thing should be campaigning to set up their own refuges and centres to support other transwomen through violence or discrimination and their experiences would be incredibly valuable.

Transwomen are not and will never be able to share the experience of growing up biologically female and therefore should not be in places which are exclusively for women like rape centres or domestic violence refuges.

consult.gov.scot/family-law/review-of-the-gender-recognition-act-2004/
Here you go, you don’t have to be resident in Scotland to answer it.

Yanbu at all. It’s scary.

Write to your MP, though if they are labour good luck

Not just Labour - mine's a Lib Dem and just the same.

FFS, cis can fuck right off.

I’d be really interested to know what the MNHQ view on the issue of refuges is.

It is so sad that WA have gone down this path (or are considering it). It does sound like there is some room for lobbying them though.

It’s appalling Spartacus - but not surprising.

It’s the natural conclusion of the trans identifying men are actual, literal women ideology. Once people commit to that it becomes impossible to segregate by biology.

Or we’ll find that the number of women using women’s refuges will go down.

Imagine escaping your situation to find your ex, newly identified as a woman working at your refuge.

Presumably WA are being bullied by their funders? But I just heard Amber Rudd (on the Andrew Marr show) saying that the Government will NOT be removing single sex exemptions from the Equality Act. If that's the case then WHY are WA even considering reviewing their policy.
Unless of course they are under siege from the trans pressure groups?

And women not accessing services is difficult to measure - the wonderful Freedom Programme are aware that many women will monitor their premises for a time before signing up, to check if there are men there. If there are...they simply don’t access the support. It’s just too risky for them.

My question is, how many people who are trans does this even affect? How many such people have even expressed a firm desire to work in a women’s shelter?

Is this a statistically significant way for a chronically underfunded charity to spend time and money?

Amber Rudd was just on Andrew Marr discussing this.

‘The exception to the Equalities Act for women-only to work in women’s refuges will remain.’

I thought she was really good. She was trying to look open-minded and to say ‘we’ll see what Women’s Aid’s review finds’ but basically in her last line it was refuges will be women only.

And on what a ‘woman’ actually is/means, at least the Tories are not Labour.

The world is becoming a very grim and scary place for women. Makes me scared to have a daughter

Done - with no particular hope that the decision has not already been taken though.

This is a scary place, where I have to vote Tory just to have my basic human rights upheld.

If a person has a penis that person is a biological man. There is a real safety issue here. How easy would it be for a potential Rapist to pretend to be a “trans identifier”and gain access to a whole group of vulnerable woman. This is nuts!

@Mummyoflittledragon yep, never thought it would come to this.

Amber Rudd has backtracked a bit, which is encouraging I suppose. I wrote to my MP a couple of years ago about this general issue and he wrote to Amber Rudd who wrote back saying that trans women are women and I was a bigot