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To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this

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welliments · 01/02/2018 17:57

Merchandise from a major dance show at the excel centre in London next month. They sell these, and tshirts from age 6 up.

I’m going to have to explain to a 10 year old why she can’t have a jumper...

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this
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Ellle · 03/02/2018 11:56

It doesn't look like an specific dance top to me, it's just an ordinary top, that a child might choose to use anywhere they like to go.

Genuine question *@adorkableme * why is it different to the H&M jungle thing?
I wasn't on that thread, but when I first saw the news, it was something about a top with the words "cheeky monkey" on it, which to me seems like a harmless expression I just learned since having my own kids and living in the UK, as English is my second language.
But when I read the comments of other people, I could see that the other view was that those words on that boy would bring out a different meaning, which only adults or older children that are aware of racism and the other connotations of the word "monkey" in that context would be able to see. And so they think it was wrong that that boy was wearing that particular top from H&M.

I think it is actually very similar, because it has all to do with whether or not the adults that see the top know the connotation and see that is racist or sexual and still a child is using that top completely unaware of what everyone else sees.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 03/02/2018 12:21

This is a very odd thread.

The dogged unwillingness of posters to see something that's staring them in the face in black and white, or even glitter and pink, is very strange, it's almost as if they are terrified of being seen as "judgy" or, heaven forbid, not accepting enough.

Also odd is accusing those who point it out of sexualising the matter in a blatant attempt to gaslight.

Credentials seem matter to them, common sense does not.

xmb53 · 03/02/2018 12:39

"attitude" is a position in ballet like an arabesque, but with the non-supporting leg bent, preferably in alignment with the hips. See: ballethub.com/ballet-term/attitude/

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 03/02/2018 12:41

RTFT, xmb

raviolidreaming · 03/02/2018 12:58

If only you've turned up sooner, xmb53

LemonShark · 03/02/2018 13:41

raviolidreaming 😂😂😂

swimminginthesea · 03/02/2018 14:28

Oh for Christ's sake. It's an established 1970s/1980s Dick Emery style bit of double entendre referring to how people in different occupations have sex, and if you don't get it, you can be sure that plenty of middle-aged and older men and women would be thinking exactly that when they look at your six year old daughter in that sweatshirt.

And if you're so cool and unbothered by that, you might as well go ahead and put them in a t-shirt that says 'shag' on it, or your son in one with a picture of a rooster and the slogan 'nice cock', because if your kid and the granny down the road and that French exchange student don't get it, why would it matter?

DonkeyOil · 03/02/2018 15:08

Many years ago, my late mother, on seeing a piece of graffiti at the station including the word 'wanker', innocently asked me what a wonker was, thinking it was pronounced like 'want', I suppose.

Now, she might not have got the 'do it' connotation, but anyone a bit more clued-up in modern culture will obviously know that in the context mentioned, it's a 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' reference to sex. If I still had a six, or even ten year old, I probably wouldn't want them wearing it either.

Turquoise123 · 03/02/2018 15:12

It’s a play on the word attitude as in a position in ballet. It’s not to do with sex at all .

CandyYumYum · 03/02/2018 15:16

Face meet Palm

DonkeyOil · 03/02/2018 15:28

It’s a play on the word attitude as in a position in ballet. It’s not to do with sex at all .

Aargh!! Yes it is, though! It says 'Dancers Do It With Attitude'. The Do It refers to sex, albeit in a 'teehee' way.

We all get that 'Attitude' is a ballet term, so maybe better to have had 'Dancers Dance With Attitude'? Still a play on the word 'Attitude', but with no smutty innuendo. Nothing against smutty innuendo in its place. Its place is not, however on a garment worn by a child.

lottiegarbanzo · 03/02/2018 15:28

I am genuinely grateful to the people who've explained the ballet meaning of the word 'attitude', as I didn't know and it does make much more sense of its useage in this context.

Not 'dancers have sex with attitude' in the everyday, posturing sense of the word.

Rather, 'dancers have sex standing on one leg'.

Which does make a lot more sense - in the context of this well known sex joke format.

Lollipops1987 · 03/02/2018 15:36

I'll be honest and say i can be quite dirty minded at times and even i don't see nothing wrong with this!

Ohyesiam · 03/02/2018 15:38

It's a joke on the original entendre, because attitude is a a ballet position.
If it was just dancers do it on stage or whatever, then it would be double entendre, but this has been evolved into a pun. A pun that only dancers will get.

Tell your daughter she can only have it when she can do the perfect arabesque.

lottiegarbanzo · 03/02/2018 15:39

Then you might find the thread eye-opening - and possibly quite entertaining - Lollipops.

lottiegarbanzo · 03/02/2018 15:40

Ahahahahahahaha!!

DonkeyOil · 03/02/2018 15:47

this has been evolved into a pun. A pun that only dancers will get.

Not any more! I think we've all got it Grin

However I still think it's a pun on the back of a double entendre.

Actually, isn't Double Entendre a ballet position?

Lollipops1987 · 03/02/2018 15:50

Yet again the mum's of mum's net have done what my parent's and school failed me on in life and have educated me darn well.......as well as making me pmsl at the same time!! Bravo 👏😂

MrJones1977 · 03/02/2018 16:03

Okay. I am grumpy Dad,a real you can't this or that kinda guy if I see something 'wrong' with it. But I see nothing wrong with that top. Get over yourself

CandyYumYum · 03/02/2018 16:06

Thanks for your input.

Bramble71 · 03/02/2018 16:06

I'm assuming that it means dancers dance with attitude, but I'm sure some will see it as dancers 'bonk' with attitude!

user187656748 · 03/02/2018 16:08

It is definitely a double entendre. perhaps one that is recognised by those of us of a certain age more than younger people?

Gabilan · 03/02/2018 16:22

Mumsnetters do it without being mansplained to.

Angielester1 · 03/02/2018 17:36

Candy yum yum, I didn’t know relax was to with that. I thought it was chilling out and drugs!!
I really think the world has gone far too pc these days. It’s all getting a bit ridiculous. Can I say that as it’s got ‘dic’ in it?!!
Can nobody else see the #moveit2018 underneath? I really don’t think it has anything to do with sex.

DreamyMcDreamy · 03/02/2018 17:47

Mumsnetters do it without being mansplained to.

Hmm

Women are disagreeing with you too, men are allowed on here too and to have their input as well you know.