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To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this

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welliments · 01/02/2018 17:57

Merchandise from a major dance show at the excel centre in London next month. They sell these, and tshirts from age 6 up.

I’m going to have to explain to a 10 year old why she can’t have a jumper...

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this
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IMightMentionGriddlebone · 02/02/2018 23:59

Cross-post. Fave, do you really, really think that the trombone shirt is a literal numbering of trombone positions? Do you think that aspiring trombone players are buying it as a revision aid?

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 02/02/2018 23:59

You can't possibly. Grin

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 03/02/2018 00:01

I don't think that the Nike Just Do It is a double entendre - it could be at a stretch, but it's more a motivational message

Absolutely totally agree. I'm of a certain age and was an adult in the 80s. There is no connection with the 'do it' of the jokes and the 'just do it' of the Nike adverts.

I've been pretty vociferous on this thread that I think it's way out of order to have e.g 'Dancers do it with Attitude' or any other variation like surfers do it standing up etc pasted to the front of a six year old, because it's really tacky.

I've seen the references throughout to Nike 'just do it' and thought it was not a fair comparison because Nike are not jumping on the bandwagon of 'rugby players do it with odd shaped balls' or 'golfers do it in the rough'

They have a picture of a big strong man doing some extreme sport. and just doing it. It's different and it sends a different message. To me, anyway. What they are saying to me is 'feel the pain, but do it anyway' It's a completely different message. It's not trying to be lighthearted, quite the opposite, and it's not trying to be a joke.

It's trying to motivate people to do more sport and then they will buy more Nike stuff. Obviously it's to increase their sales. Nothing to do with sex. And anybody who thinks it is must have their mind in the GUTTER! {grin}

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 03/02/2018 00:07

Aw, bless you, dreamy, you’re so sweetly naïve

I think we all have dreamy's number. His/her occasional posts keep the thread rumbling on. But it's interesting and important. Without dreamy it might have died out a 100 posts ago.

Young and uninformed parents are learning stuff. That's a good thing.

squeekums · 03/02/2018 00:19

Damn there are some precious petals here
Offended by a ballet jumper with the words do it in a sentence, how sad and honestly pathetic

Op, Do you have an issue when your kids teacher says do it now? I mean they may want to have sex with them in your eyes
Get over and grow up

CandyYumYum · 03/02/2018 00:23

Oh great. Another bore wittering on about people being 'offended'.

Dull.

FaveNumberIs2 · 03/02/2018 00:35

@IMightMentionGriddlebone

Considering a trombone is a musical instrument and can't have sex, what else is it supposed to mean?

The shirt clearly states "trombones do it in 7 positions"

Not, trombonists do it in seven positions.

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 03/02/2018 00:37

Your perception, your child will only learn if you tell them

And the other hundreds of thousands of people who see them wearing the tacky sweatshirt won't tell them either. But they all
know it's tacky and smutty, and they know that their parents must know it too.

The kid has to walk around wearing a smutty 80s strapline cos their parent thinks it's fine because the kid don't realise it.

I actually feel a bit sick now, about all this.

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 03/02/2018 01:03

SheGotBetteDavisEyes

Your post at 22.12

Good post well made.

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 03/02/2018 01:17

Yes, butterfly that was my point

I was just heartily agreeing with you, and buttressing and reinforcing your point. It was meant to be a supportive post.

DreamyMcDreamy · 03/02/2018 01:18

I think we all have dreamy's number. His/her occasional posts keep the thread rumbling on. But it's interesting and important. Without dreamy it might have died out a 100 posts ago.

Yeah,because otherwise it would have been an echo chamber of "we agrees" and "it's so disgusting!" etc if no other viewpoint had been put across. They are out there,you know.
No idea what you're trying to imply with "all dreamy's number." I've been here for absolute years.

DreamyMcDreamy · 03/02/2018 01:20

Yeah,because otherwise it would have been an echo chamber of "we agrees" and "it's so disgusting!" etc if no other viewpoint had been put across. They are out there,you know.No idea what you're trying to imply with "all dreamy's number." I've been here for absolute years.

Should add an active,posting member for absolute years,not just one reading.

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 03/02/2018 02:28

Should add an active,posting member for absolute years,not just one reading

I've been an actual living woman for 55 years and I think that gives me a bit of clout. Just because you've been posting for a long time doesn't mean you've been posting helpfully or sensibly or that you have any experience of real life or that you've helped anyone in a meaningful way. In that time, I've brought up children, one with SEN. When my children were small Mumsnet did not exist. I have managed to live my whole life so far without Mumsnet. Sending posts to Mumsnet is not the be all and end all of mine, or any other persons existence. Claiming to be a long time poster doesn't make your views superior to mine or anybody else's.

You imply that because I'm a one time poster on this thread that my views can be easily dismissed because I'm a Johnny-come-lately.
(You likely won't understand that reference)

When my children were small, there were no computers and no mobile phones. You may be a long time (3 or 4 years or so?) poster, and I might have just recently accessed MN.

That does not make you or your views superior to me or mine.

My understanding of MN is that we are all equal on here and we can't pull rank on the basis that we've been here the longest.

I've actually been around here for quite a long time.
Maybe even longer than you.

Clem7 · 03/02/2018 02:48

Tap dancers do it loudly.
Pole dancers do it upside down.
Morris dancers do it with bells on.
Irish dancers do it with no arms.

There are some really crap t-shirts online.

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welliments · 03/02/2018 06:41

dreamy

Sorry, so now you’ve gone from

no one would look at it like that unless they had a smutty mind, of course I’d let my daughter wear it

To

I keep popping up because otherwise it would have been an echo chamber of "we agrees" and "it's so disgusting!" etc if no other viewpoint had been put across. They are out there,you know. And even though I now know the majority of people would read this jumper as my six year old likes to have sex with attitude I will still let her wear it.

This is where we are at right?

Btw, I’m not just picking on you or favenumber2 I think anyone who has rtft and would still buy this for their daughter is wrong or perhaps lacks the ability to understand why it is not a good idea.

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welliments · 03/02/2018 06:49

@favenumber2

*Thank you for informing me I'm wrong. I hope you've gone through the thread and personally informed 50% of people on this thread that they are also wrong. Or have you just reserved that special honour for me?

Obviously we are not allowed to have opinions on here.*

Yes, you are allowed an opinion. But I am allowed the opinion that you are wrong. There are only a few circumstances where I so totally fail to see the other persons view that I feel it’s ok to tell them it’s wrong.

Sexism, racism, bullying and the insidious sexualisation of children are some of them.

I don’t understand how as a writer you are failing to grasp this argument.

It does feel like some people on here just don’t understand whereas others have a political agenda against those who see the protection of equal rights and of childhood as important, doling out the word offended and outraged whilst eye rolling to try and shut people up.

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TrojanWhore · 03/02/2018 07:58

People who don't RTFT do it with a cancelled cheque

NancyJoan · 03/02/2018 08:02

Of course it’s a double entendre.

TrojanWhore · 03/02/2018 08:07

"Do you have an issue when your kids teacher says do it now? I mean they may want to have sex with them in your eyes"

Why on earth would anyone think that? Because the specific joke pattern is 'X do it in Y manner' (with the phrase standing in isolation)

But like knowing that 'knock knock' is a joke, 'knock off' is copied goods or having sex, 'knock one out' is male masturbation etc, but when a teacher tells someone to knock before they come in to a classroom it woun't be an idiomatic meaning.

"Get over and grow up"

I think I'm grown up enough to understand the interplay between idiom, context and literal language.

And no, I wouldn't put my DC in a garment with a well-known sexual joke pattern on it.

FaveNumberIs2 · 03/02/2018 08:10

@welliments

I cannot see a problem with a dancer wearing that jumper in the confines of dancing, dance practice, warm ups, competitions, dance related activities. I have more concerns with what young kids are made to do during pageants. And being a writer makes no difference to that whatsoever.

You have your opinion, I have mine.

TheGoldenBowl · 03/02/2018 08:19

I think we just have to accept that some people think it's fine to put sexually suggestive slogans on young children. It's hard for the rest of us to understand why, and the people in question sure as hell aren't going to explain it to us in a way that makes sense (otherwise they'd have managed to do so in 28 pages!). The world's a funny old place.

jocarter67 · 03/02/2018 08:20

You get good attitude and bad attitude I think it’s fine Op .

Lovemusic33 · 03/02/2018 08:23

I wear nike to the gym ‘just do it’ to me means ‘just do exercise’ Grin ,it’s sports wear so empties that ‘it’ is sport? My 12 year old wear nike too.

You could probably make almost any slogan into something sexual if you think hard enough.

NotBadConsidering · 03/02/2018 08:24

I cannot see a problem with a dancer wearing that jumper in the confines of dancing, dance practice, warm ups, competitions, dance related activities.

But this is a change. Before you said you wouldn't have a problem with DC in it. So now you think it should be confined to certain scenarios. Why? Do you now deem it inappropriate outside of a dance situation?

DreamyMcDreamy · 03/02/2018 08:31

How you can still argue that the slogan is ok is beyond me. Even dreamymcdreamy gave up on that point several pages ago

Nope, just pretty funny how you're not going to be happy until everyone thinks the same as you.
As I said, people can disagree with you, even though you'd be much happier in your little echo chamber.

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