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Alfie Evans

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IcySlippy · 01/02/2018 11:50

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/alfie-evans-parents-plead-sons-14231597

Anyone following this?

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MorningCuppa · 23/04/2018 10:57

A photo opportunity? What a disgraceful thing to say, do you know TE? No, so keep your stupid petty remarks to yourself, put yourself in a young couples position who's baby is going to die, then sit and tell me you would be making "photo opportunities" that comment is as bad as some of the barmy army, in fact it's damn right distasteful.

trekkingintheandes · 23/04/2018 10:58

Grumble that does make sense although I do think that an exception could have been made last night. I suspect not a lot of sleep was had that said.

trekkingintheandes · 23/04/2018 10:59

This thread will be deleted like the others if this degenerates into a fight.

MorningCuppa · 23/04/2018 10:59

Grumble yes I understand that they removed it when everything kicked off a week or so ago, but stick to the rules then, stop telling me they can't have it because that's the rules when they HAVE had it in the room.
I'm saying in the last moments what harm is it going to do.
No one should be having to lie on a hospital floor. Disgusting.

MynameisJune · 23/04/2018 11:00

I wonder if @ravenclaw is correct and that sofa is the best that the unit have and it is therefore making the rounds between other children who are having eol care removed.

It might not have been anything TE did to get it removed, it could just be that there are others that need that sofa more. If these are Alfie’s last hours then I hope they get something in place for them.

Aliasgrace1 · 23/04/2018 11:01

I completely agree morning. That picture is heartbreaking. The whole situation is awful, I really do feel for Alfie and his parents. Just wish the army would leave them alone to grieve.

JoanOfNarc · 23/04/2018 11:02

Even if the sofa had to be removed then GOSH should have provided TE with somewhere to sleep.

MorningCuppa · 23/04/2018 11:03

Well they should stick to there "policy" then shouldn't they, doesn't make sense, have a sofa for months and then when your child is actually coming to end of life take it away and make you suffer.
Lovely, nice way to treat heart broken, devastated, exhausted parents.

MyPuppyIsADick · 23/04/2018 11:04

Someone on AA is advocating a hoax bomb call to Alder Hey as 'no kids are safe in there'... Shock

MynameisJune · 23/04/2018 11:04

@Joan Alfie is in Alder Hay not GSOH

CommunistLegoBloc · 23/04/2018 11:05

It’s Alder Hey hospital.

The hospital won’t be allowed to say why they can’t put a sofa in the room. I agree that without the salient facts, it looks bad. I suspect the poster who worried it might be used to obstruct withdrawal of care is probably onto something.

NerrSnerr · 23/04/2018 11:05

I was under the impression that the sofa was taken from a communal area so it was returned so all families can use it- but I might be wrong. Nursing staff are not heartless bastards. There will be a reason.

itswinetime · 23/04/2018 11:05

I do agree something should of have been provided by the way I was just staying some reasons it may not have been the sofa whatever the concerns in a hospital as big as Alder Hey I would have thought a reclining chair of something could have been found as a compromise

Thegreatestshowwomen · 23/04/2018 11:06

One of the army is telling people to barmbard the CQC now with calls saying if we call them enough they will have to do something Hmm
This lethal injection story is awful as well.

maxthemartian · 23/04/2018 11:06

Hang on, no-one knows the actual story behind why the sofa isn't there. Why start then attacking the hospital?

jaseyraex · 23/04/2018 11:06

If it's the only sofa they have on the ward then it'll be making its way around everyone, particularly those with EOL care. Although you can access the ward 24 hours a day, they do prefer you to sleep elsewhere. Just because they've had the sofa in the room previously doesn't mean it stays in that room. I slept across chairs in the family room when my first child was having EOL care. They couldn't permit anything other than a chair in his room. In his final days I had a very uncomfortable wooden chair next to his incubator. I'd have slept on the floor if I had to.

africanprincessinscotland · 23/04/2018 11:06

Threatening a hoax bomb call has to be a police matter, surely?

MarvelleGazelle · 23/04/2018 11:07

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MorningCuppa · 23/04/2018 11:09

Oh come on one sofa or chair in the WHOLE building, give it a break, why does everyone on this thread always come back with "I heard" the matter of fact is they should have somewhere to sit comfortably so they can rest in there sons (who lets not forget is going to die) room.

Mightymucks · 23/04/2018 11:09

The problem with these threads is that you get people who just enjoy sticking the boot in posting under the guise of ‘concern’ and ‘supporting the hospital’ who are really just enjoying sticking the boot in and are just as much of a mob as the army.

I don’t doubt the hospital are frustrated with them but I still think they will have compassion for them no matter how difficult the situation gets.

Quite frankly I think some of the gleeful rubbernecking dressed up as support for the hospital on this thread is ‘support’ the hospital would rather do without.

RunMummyRun68 · 23/04/2018 11:11

morning the room is designed with medical equipment in mind.... that takes space. The sofa was squished in. Then removed. No other families have a sofa in the room!

Redglitter · 23/04/2018 11:11

They're now asking everyone to call 101 and report a murder about to be committed. I despair

RunMummyRun68 · 23/04/2018 11:12

Who is? The barmy army?

MorningCuppa · 23/04/2018 11:13

Who's "attacking" the hospital? Have I ever underestimated the work the staff do? Never.
I'm just saying I think the whole sofa/chair thing, is utterly ridiculous at this most unimaginable heart breaking time for a young family.

MarvelleGazelle · 23/04/2018 11:13

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