Supply teacher physically hurt my child

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I have a 9 year old dd who yesterday had a supply teacher in school & the teacher gripped my dd in the bottom back region & pinched her to stop her going into the computer room without even telling her first even she come home showed me & told me what had happened she was left with marks on her back so I took photos & had her write her account of the event went to the school this morning & seen head & was she said it had to be dealt with by Edcaution as teacher was from agency & took photos & statement from me Itold me supply teacher isn't there today & sent my dd into class i felt very unsatisfied by our discussion just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience & what advice you can give or if anyone knows more about this as to me its a very serious matter to her it seemed like a everyday thing very concerned by it all? Tia

Have i missed something, where is it said about nail marks?

The OP said there were bruises and nail marks in an update. mothering but that only the nail marks were visible the day after.

When she come home yesterday she had two marks on her back & in the middle of either bruising i could see there where nail marks where they had dug in this morning the soreness was more or less gone but the nail marks where still there faintly

There is a set procedure to be followed when any allegation is made about a member of staff. This is outlined in the school's Child Protection/Safeguarding Policy, which should be on the school website (although not required to be by law). Assuming it is a mainstream school, this will almost certainly say that the head should refer it straight to the Local Authority Designated Officer. Other than cursory clarification, the head has no say in this and should not be conducting an independent investigation - this runs the risk of contaminating any evidence gained. It is an automatic process. The head then follows the advice of the LADO, who is a specialist in this area. Do not berate the head (at this stage) for not seeming to be doing anything, although I would expect you to be told of this process. Wait for a follow-up conversation (perhaps book an appointment now for Friday to ensure time is set aside). Only then, do anything further. By all means go straight to the police yourself, but provided the head is following procedure, the paths lead to the same ultimate destination. Do not write to the Local Authority or Ofsted - they will bounce it back, and as long as the head is following the procedure, can do nothing.

Ok in that case I apologize, that's different then.

Already been said cornwall

People on mumsnet can be very ignorant about this. I'm a supply teacher and the protocol as per safeguarding is to notify agency who would tell rme i couldn't work until the investigation was concluded. Wasn't working yesterday BTW!

the supply teacher possibly didn’t know your child’s name, wanted her to come back and tried to grab her waistband. Her intent is highly unlikely to warrant calling the police.
I get it your disappointed, I see this as a massive overreaction.

Fortunately for the rest of us @Christmascardqueen you're opinion is thankfully just that, and we actually live in a society that wants to ensure the safety of our children and has procedures like this in place to achieve that.

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people are generally good. we talking about a minor bruise (if that, as it faded "overnight") and a scratch.

I'm not going to continue debating the point as you have your opinion and I have my experiences and knowledge of the law lol so we are unlikely to agree!!

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The child was walking to a room with her friend not walking off a cliff.

Why didnt the teacher not just get her attention and say she couldnt go?

Why did she need to grab her so hard it hurt her and left bruises and nail marks through her clothes that are still there the next day?

You don’t have to grab hard to bruise or scratch someone. Accidents happen and making a fuss over a bruise and scratch is a waste of time.

She didnt need to grab her at all! Who tries to 'grab' someones back? Theres nothing to 'grab'.

And bruising and scratching someone through layers of clothes is a bit of a forceful 'grab'.

Yes I would be very concerned about there being a bruise, why did the teacher need to grab the DD so hard?? It wasn't as if she was in any kind of danger.

The supply teachers on this thread have said there are procedures that need to be followed properly. You need to pursue this with the HT, to make sure that this incident is handled by the book.

You'd have to grab very hard to leave nail marks the next day through clothing.

Not if they are walking away and it’s more of a binch.

This is absolute madness. An assult is an attempt to deliberately cause harm to another. This is not assult and until there is an investigation no one is even not even sure what happened. As a teacher sh*t like this that is sending professionals screaming from schools. Will you people finally be happy when there simply are no more adults willing to interact with children for fear of being branded a criminal. It's funny because it's the same people who have a nervous breakdown when they unexpectedly have to look after their few children for a day or two or over the holidays. It's a joke YABFU. Go spend a day in a school and have a word with yourself.

Why don't you even give the adult in the room a chance to say their version of events before you start baying for blood and assult charges? If your child got hurt at home you would expect someone to ask you what happened, would you not? No teacher enters teaching to hurt a child. If something has happened, and at this stage it's an if then yes follow the correct channels and allow the professionals to handle it. It's so wrong to approach people who are trusted by a community with their children like this. Are you hoping that the teacher will be sacked and have their career ruined for this?

"If something has happened, and at this stage it's an if then yes follow the correct channels and allow the professionals to handle it. It's so wrong to approach people who are trusted by a community with their children like this."

What are you blathering on about, crabbypatty? Have you read the thread?

The OP has in fact "followed the correct channels", by reporting the matter to the Head Teacher.

Pp, Desmondo2016, (whose job involves dealing with such matters) reassured OP of the procedure that the Head Teacher will follow, so OP now knows what will happen next.

As a result of that reassurance (given by Desmondo2016), OP went on to say that she now knows the Head Teacher is following the correct steps.

That sure sounds to me like "following the correct channels" ... or was it different 'correct channels' you had in mind?

Crabbypatty several of the posters advising the op to pursue the matter are teachers and one is a police officer who works in child protection and deals with this exact situation on a regular basis. Do you really think you know better?

Funnily enough yes, I think I have a reasonable perspective given the fact that I am a secondary school teacher and have been for 11 years. It's not Op necessarily that the comment was directed at, it was the other posters who are jumping the gun and suggesting going to the police and involving exterior bodies. Teaching is hard enough without this kind of reaction being mooted as reasonable and proportional response.

I'm staggered that a teacher would not think there should be an investigation when there is an allegation of visible injuries caused by an adult . No-one is saying she should be hung drawn and quartered but there HAS to be an investigation, the laws of our land say so!

There is an investigation. The head is investigating. That's why I said let them do their jobs and then come back to OP.