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To not give neighbor internet password?

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NegansDollFace · 29/01/2018 21:21

I’ve lived at my current address for 3 years, 4 in November 2018. The house next door is split into two flats, one upstairs and one down. So I’ve never been particularly close to my next door neighbors. We exchange (limited) pleasantries if we see each other and they’ve taken in a parcel for me once and I for them a few times. They work night times and there’s a bit of a language barrier so we legitimately don’t have any relationship beyond polite.

Tonight when I was at our local supermarket when I saw neighbor from the upstairs flat, I smiled an acknowledged him but moved to go to the self checkout. He followed and began a conversation asking how I was, fine, fine but when I ask him how he is he tells me not so good. He goes onto explain that downstairs neighbors have moved out and took their internet with them. I can already see where this is going so he asked if he could have my WiFi password and that he was willing to pay for it. I was put on the spot so I told him I’d speak to him when I’m home.

I’m home now and really am hoping the fact that I haven’t gotten back to him will speak for itself. What would you all say/do? I have incredibly bad social anxiety and I’m very awkward in these situations. Am I BU to just tell him no? And feel like he’s being cheeky? Surely if he shared internet with the flat below they’d have told him they were moving so he’d have time to get a different provider? Also if he’s willing to pay to use mine wouldn’t it just be easier to get his own installed?

OP posts:

stopbeingadramallama · 30/01/2018 00:57

If he can pay you for the internet, he can afford to go and get his own bloody internet.

They're complete twats. I'd report them.

LunchBoxPolice · 30/01/2018 01:02

Change the name of your WiFi connection.

"cheeky fuckers say what?"

"get your own"

"connection unavailable"

"searching.."

Etc

Springtrolls · 30/01/2018 01:05

To the people who share their passwords with others.
Do yourself a favour and google
provider name and log into router.
Some providers provide this information online and to begin you enter a series of numbers for example 192.168.0.1 (this is sky's)
You then need an admin and password, and again, your provider offers this online to everyone who wants it.

So now I have your login for your wifi because you are very trusting.
I know your provider name because people generally never change their default. I can now access your modem and lock you out. I can put restrictions on you so you can access but not realise. I can do a lot with the devices connected.

You need to change the admin and password default from your provider. It's an extra bit of protection for you. You also need to see the devices connected to you and if you don't know them kick them off and change settings and passwords.

MyKingdomForBrie · 30/01/2018 01:39

Get angry. Be totally upfront - ‘you’re asking me for a huge favour but you were banging on the wall all last night - so no I’m definitely not going to help you!’

fzpotts · 30/01/2018 01:57

Change the name of your Wi-Fi to something like PoliceSurveillanceVan or even 404 Network not found and say you're having problems and can't connect. They won't see the name yours came up with previously and are unlikely to try and connect to either of the above named ones!

Oh and they are twats for banging.

Penners99 · 30/01/2018 02:27

Change wifi name and password. Then you can hide your wifi to the outside world. Do not broadcast SSID in settings. Other users will not see it and can only connect if they know the name and password

OtterInDisgrace · 30/01/2018 04:01

Well given that they’ve tried to intimidate you with all the banging they don’t deserve any fucking courtesy or benefit of the doubt.

Fuck them.

Look, I suffer from anxiety and I hear you when you say this will cause you stress but they are trying to take the piss. Why can’t they get their own bloody internet?!

Ask them why!

RebootYourEngine · 30/01/2018 06:02

Now i think i know why the downstairs neighbour moved out. Sounds like these people are bullies when they dont get their own way.

Tell them no. Keep a diary. If it continues report to landlord, letting agency & council.

JediStoleMyBike · 30/01/2018 06:21

My heart goes out to you OP. If I lived near I'd come and tell them no on your behalf!

Fourfantasticfrogs · 30/01/2018 06:29

Just No OP. You've paid the the service, why should somebody get it for free. Apart from all the security issues, why should he get something effectively a utility free when you're paying for it.
What next ? sharing water? electricity?
"No, I don't feel comfortable doing that" should be brought of an answer and leave it there. No explanation required. If he pushes then he's a CF and just keep repeating No.

Dawn1992 · 30/01/2018 06:34

Don't do it. My mum did it for her neighbour thinking she was being nice. Her internet stopped working as she had given code to son,daughter and everyone who stepped in their house. Dad logged onto router too see what the problem was and they had 38 devices connected to our Wi-Fi. Dad changed the password and neighbour went crazy that mum and dad had stopped her Wi-Fi. (Insane) she now pays for her own broadband. And for those saying he may have bad credit. Sky does not credit check (used to work for them) nor does talk talk. It's virgin and bt who credit check so there is options avaliable to him he's just being a C.F.

shakingmyhead1 · 30/01/2018 06:36

when she comes back, tell her you appreciated the night to think their cheeky request over, not that you needed it as you had already said no, the banging that then woke your child and the subtle threat about the childs noise has made you doubly sure to say no!
and if she says she might complain about the childs noise hand her a card with the noise complaint number on it and say go ahead heres the number, they love acting on complaints about children noise :)

splendide · 30/01/2018 06:37

I don’t understand this - so anyone with my WiFi password could log into my provider in this way? Or are you saying they wouldn’t even need a password? Just the provider name? That can’t be right can it?

stoneagefertilitydoll · 30/01/2018 06:40

I live abroad. When I come to the UK I user a PAYG dongle - they're cheap as chips, I have enough bandwidth to watch TV, to do whatever I need to do.

They are just trying to take advantage of you and get something for free. If you did it, you'd discover that they're both streaming hi-def TV all evening and disrupting your internet.

If you wanted to play silly buggers, you could give them the password and spend the next week rebooting it every 10 mins or so, so it's really annoying for them, but given the type of people they seem to be, they'd probably come and have a go at you about that too, so it's not worth it (especially if you're anxious anyway).

There are ways that if you have a good enough modem (often the free ones aren't) that you could put them in a 'DMZ' ie. give them access to the internet, but not to your network - but why would you when they've been entitled and obnoxious about it

lovelystar · 30/01/2018 06:41

When I first moved into my flat I nearly asked my neighbours this out of pure desperation but then when I thought about it realised how awkward and now much of a CF that would make me! I would just say sorry but you don't have enough to share. It's not that difficult and doesn't take that long to set up your own internet connection. I managed it and have quite bad anxiety about dealing with people/speaking on the phone and am not the richest person around either . I wouldn't feel guilty I'm sure he will manage :)

LoniceraJaponica · 30/01/2018 06:41

The "I don't feel comfortable" answer won't work Four. This will leave it open for the bullies to intimidate the OP further. It needs to be a definite no.

Dawn1992 · 30/01/2018 06:44

@splendide yeah that's right. For instance if your with sky to log into your router all you need is to be logged onto the Wi-Fi and then type in the 192. Code and the username is admin and the password is sky. It's the same for every single person who is with sky and this cannot be changed. The reason it's there is for the technical department to be able to help you and if you change it and can't remember then tech support wouldn't be able to help you as they couldn't get access to your router. So if someone you don't know asks for your Wi-Fi code just say no as they can access this page while connected to your Wi-Fi (ex sky employee)

mathanxiety · 30/01/2018 06:45

Love this from upthread:
$-0-D-0-F-F-C-H-3-3-K-Y-G-1-T

Write this in big, legible letters on a piece of paper and stick it on the outside of your door.

I like the advice form upthread too, to update your LL on what's going on.

You could use this thread as a record.

splendide · 30/01/2018 06:49

That seems so lax Dawn! Thanks for the info.

Iluvthe80s · 30/01/2018 06:50

Just say no. Record any more banging. Call the police if it continues. It's intimidiation. If they cone around again ignore them or if you chose to open the door do so on the latch. Under no circumstances give them the code. They'll hopefully soon get bored and if not they can deal with the police. If you do call the police make sure they know you have a child with additional needs who is being terrified by them. Keep a record and might be worth letting landlord know. I know you said they're shit but you want to get your side of story logged

stoneagefertilitydoll · 30/01/2018 06:54

If you give them your password then they become part of your network so they can access your router if you haven't changed the default password (for example, on mine the router login was admin/admin - what the previous poster meant was that if you know the name of the provider or the model of the router you can usually find out the default password).

Once they can access your router, they can set up things that you might not notice - like partitioning your bandwidth so they get to use most of it, or putting in virtual tunnels so they can play some games or host websites over your connection. They can also change that default password so now you can't get into your router to change it back - and you might not notice - you might just think that your connection's got a bit rubbish.

echt · 30/01/2018 06:54

Isn't asking for your internet password a bit like saying would you pay my rent?

The only time I can see this as courtesy is for guests in your home.

It's not like a cup of sugar.

Twats.

RedHelenB · 30/01/2018 07:10

But it is nt the same as paying rent because you are not paying any more if someone else uses it. It would still be a no from me though after all their antics!

ElderflowerWaterIsDelish · 30/01/2018 07:19

Tell your neighbour to buy one of these from Argos

All he has to do is top it up with a pay as you go top up from the shop (the same way you can buy top ups for mobiles) and it will work and give him his own WiFi, and if he puts it in his pocket he can take his WiFi with him when he goes out too

Sumo1 · 30/01/2018 07:28

OMG - can't believe people think this is a reasonable scenario - the whole point of the password is so that others can't use your Wifi - imagine they have friends staying who go onto terrorist websites or they pass it on to the next tenants - The police SWAT team at your door at 5am and being arrested IS a risk, allbeit small.
It's their problem say NNNOOOOO.

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