To think Corbyn's maths is wrong again

[Rebeccaslicker]

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/28/jeremy-corbyn-announces-labour-will-buy-every-homeless-person/amp/

How is this going to work? Does he mean "give" as in legally transfer or does he mean no rent? How does he think the houses are going to be maintained and utility bills paid? Is it fair on people who've been on waiting lists? Is it really going to reduce the numbers of homeless people if it becomes seen as a quick way to skip the queue?

I got back to my car in an NCP the other night, to find 5 homeless people right next to it with foil and needles. They were also going through some wallets (which may well have been their own; I didn't stop to check of course). The state of them was very sad and although I did feel intimidated at first, I also didn't report them because I thought, where else would they go - it's chucking it down. But then again, no way would they be able to look after a house. They were like zombies.

He's absolutely right to want to do something about the homeless situation. There should be more lots more help. But I don't think this is the answer. AIBU?

Another link

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-homelessness-england-crisis-8000-buy-a8181871.html%3famp

I like his ideas but he sadly doesn't quite understand how the world works.

We need politicians who can achieve what they want and the man's an imbecile.

I think he’s actually a 60-something year old man identifying as a 16 year old wee boy.

He’s an idiot who lives in cloud cuckoo land

We've been told locally that there is no need for any of the homeless around us to be on the streets - it is their choice. AND to not give them money either.

I like him very much, but I really don't get how he thinks this will work. And a roof is only a very small part of curing homelessness.

Yet another noble big gesture but impossible, unaffordable and nonsensical in actual practical terms.

We can all virtue signal but by god does he set the bar high.

And giving a home to a rough sleeper isn’t the end of their problems. A lot have mental health issues. How will they feed be clothed themselves - they won’t magically get a job, and addiction is a common problem too.

Where are these homes to be? Will they buy up properties (where will the money come from) singly or in swathes on estates?

Who will monitor and manage the people? I have 4 hostels within spitting distance of my home and yes, it does bring problems. Who is going to support these people? Will they all be living by singly?

I guess it's not surprising as he is still stuck in student mode and has never done a proper job in his life. Maybe his ex, Diane Abbott, has passed on her economic 'expertise' and then he would be in real trouble

I would like to see some sort of requirement that anyone wanting to be an MP has to have worked for at least ten years in the real world.

You can't get on the council list where I live unless you are actually homeless, if you have a temporary address at all they don't want to know. So here it wouldn't be queue jumping it would just be providing council houses to those who need them. Can't see anything wrong with that.

They were like zombies

And thus Jesus/Rebecca passes judgement on them.

I would like to see some sort of requirement that anyone wanting to be an MP has to have worked for at least ten years in the real world.

Perhaps as Carillon CEO?

How are his maths any worse than the Tories managing to increase the national debt by more in 8 years than Labour managed in 13? They have also pledged to give billions to the house builders via Help to Buy (£10 billion alone in the most recent Budget). The Tories could just do a mass social housing building programme but instead think it is better to give billions of taxpayer cash to their builder and banker buddies so that they can pay the CEO £100 million bonus! The Tories are not fiscally more prudent that Labour, not anymore!

What is needed for a large number (not all, before the mn only read half of it brigade kick off) of the rough sleepers is a cure for their addictions, education in to how to run a home and budget and guidance back into normality. Just putting a drug addict into a property will mean the dealer cuckoos will be there in days, exploiting and selling.

And none of us want that on our road. Even corbyn.

Good idea but only half of it.

He's a man of big gestures and little common sense.

Reminds me of my dad.

Oh dear poor dear he has no grip of reality has he, but I think all he has ever done is be an MP and support some very unpleasant organisations. What about people on waiting lists, will he give the houses to people who got off the boat yesterday, not going to go down well with normal people love, off to your coco and bickies

Yet come the next election people will fall for it. just like they did last time. I don't like the conservatives much either but just cannot vote for Labour - not with Momentum in charge.

He said he would abolish tuition fees at the last election. then afterwards said - ah well what I meant was only if we could afford it!

unfortunately quite a large percentage of voters don't bother to think through the cost of grand ideas or the consequences - of all parties I mean not just labour.

I think we as the public need to pressure politicians when they make grand announcements to ask for the cost and the benefit and who will pay and how.

bland sound bitey shite that passes for well thought out policies.

Luxury Tower blocks built and sold to overseas investors....
Yes it's a problem - in London.

Does he realise that forcibly rebuying perfectly legally bought luxury flats (dodgy in itself; they should change the house buying law rather than try to compulsory purchase perfectly legally bought property) isn't going to work in Blackburn? Or Oldham? Or Scunthorpe? Do he and his pals have an idea of life outside London?

My DSis and her dh have been on the waiting list for social housing for 15 years. Sadly they are infertile so never had children and couldn't climb the priority list. They live with her MIL in MIL's house. If sleeping on the streets for a few weeks would give them access to a two bed luxury flat they might well be tempted. Wouldn't many? Of have I misunderstood?

oldbirdy - Momentum are londoncentric. they always have been and always will be. they have no concept of life outside. I know lots of people on the housing list (because I do some volunteering) and I would bet all of them would have a couple of weeks on the street to get a place to live. It would become a sham. and how do you prove someone is on the streets and how long they have been there.

momentum need to get out a bit more. then they would see that the rest of the country is completely different from London.

Our local hostel has plenty of spaces. It can't fill them because it refuses to allow drug dealing on the premises. I wonder if these wonderful new houses will be handed out without any such requirement?

Simply throwing money at such a complex problem is incredibly naive. But about what I'd expect from the lovely Mr C.

Ah, sorry make, I forgot you were there too

I do a lot of pro bono work for a homeless charity; I donate a lot of money to that one and another local one; and pre small child I spent a lot of time helping with food preparation and distribution etc. What have YOU done about it, apart from posting on here?!

Tories could just do a mass social housing building programme but instead think it is better to give billions of taxpayer cash to their builder and banker buddies so that they can pay the CEO £100 million bonus!

Dead centre.

The Tories have done nothing but further distort the housing market.

Homelessness, foodbanks and NHS in crisis...the Tory legacy again.

Its just another populist soundbite from Corbyn, he will backtrack within a month like he did with tution fees, Momentum/Corbyn and maths do not really work, it's more about just blaming the Tories.

So... just the usual momentum propaganda then.

How surprising.