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To think Ann Widdecombe is truly vile

233 replies

BlueSkiesAndWhiteCliffs · 27/01/2018 23:00

Celeb Big Brother.

Anyone else saying the things she has said would have had people screaming at them.

She doesn't think women should work if they have children.

She doesn't agree with gay marriage.

She thinks being gay is disgusting.

She is so backwards in her thinking, she is truly horrible.

Now whilst I don't agree with the language that Andrew used about her, I agree with his sentiment and I can't believe everyone is pussy footing around her!

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pieceofpurplesky · 28/01/2018 00:01

I don't think she called all gays disgusting but she did call Andrew and Shane disgusting. She also nominated them both for acting 'lewdly' when they were messing around and wrestling - nothing lewd about about it.
She makes her opinions clear and I find them offensive - but she is a right to voice them.
I do think she is manipulative and playing the best game in the house. Today in the scare task she let herself slip for a minute and genuinely laughed. The eye rolling I think is part of the act. What Malika said tonight is true - she must be miserable.

I hope she doesn't win.

Ivymaud · 28/01/2018 00:05

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OnTheList · 28/01/2018 00:06

Today in the scare task she let herself slip for a minute and genuinely laughed.

I think this is down to editing, rather than 'dropping the act'. They only show her miserable, as thats the storyline they have chose for her.

I miss live feed so fucking much. Live feed often showed a totally different story than the highlight show did.

BeyondWitchbitchterf · 28/01/2018 00:06

Iirc she converted to Catholicism when the Anglican Church took on female priests. She does imo have a tendency towards somewhat rigid thinking (women can't be priests, the bible says so, so I'll convert to a religion where that is still true)

Re section 28, again it doesn't prove she's homophobic. Now she may well be, Ive not asked her, but she based he support for it on her religion. Ideal family model in the bible is man plus woman, promoting anything else in schools goes against that.

Again, I disagree, but I can see where her thinking comes from.

mentalfluid · 28/01/2018 00:10

Stateless true. i did not say all though. and i think it odd that Christians seem to get picked on when other religions that hold the same views are rightly, not targeted at all. but neither should christians be! i do not believe in having "protected classes" of people. i think we should all try and be kind to everyone. everyone treated equal.

mentalfluid · 28/01/2018 00:11

BeyondWitch Yes . we do not all have to agree with her. but she is not harming any of us. live and let live.

StatelessPrincess · 28/01/2018 00:37

mentalfluid The way your post was written implied it. As a Muslim I feel like we are criticized all the time, often for things that aren't actually true, but obviously I'm biased and spend too much time on the internet.

EleanorXx · 28/01/2018 00:43

She made racist comments about Megan merkle and dated Harvey Weinstein victims ‘had a choice’

She is disgusting

FannyWisdom · 28/01/2018 00:47

She does talk a lot of shite.
Some people do.
For a Tory she's at least true to beliefs and backs it up without pandering.

Gotta admit though, she knows her way around the nightwear section.

EleanorXx · 28/01/2018 00:48

Said, not dated

mentalfluid · 28/01/2018 00:56

stateless i am sorry if you felt i was being unkind. i have nothing against Muslims or Christians. i feel everyone is entitled to their own views regarding religion or homosexuality.

i think homophobia or religious hate is a problem if someone is refused a job or house for being gay or muslim or christian etc. but disagreeing with somebody's lifetstyle choices (sexuality or religion etc) is just an opinion. not a big issue either way.

ilovesooty · 28/01/2018 00:57

I've had no time for her for years.
Her defence of handcuffing and shackling pregnant female prisoners for medical examination was just revolting.

Originalfoogirl · 28/01/2018 01:00

She doesn't think women should work if they have children.

Isn’t that view also held by about half the folk on mumsnet too? Didn’t realise it was “vile” to have that opinion.

Itchytights · 28/01/2018 01:05

I love Ann Grin

Probably so much investment cos dis’ is a left wing site innit and the lefties love to bash the right...

Nootka · 28/01/2018 01:06

Another untruth re megan merkle comments which were not racist at all. Did you actually watch CBB or just read that in paper. Her comments were about "being trouble" older then harry, a divorcee etc. Nothing to do with her race. I don't even like her very much, but I can't stand people stating things the woman did not say.

CupcakeWithIcing · 28/01/2018 01:10

@mentalfluid sexuality isn't a lifestyle choice.....

You can't just choose to be gay. If you could choose to be gay or straight everyone would be straight to avoid abuse/attacks and general bullying from others.

springtulip · 28/01/2018 01:12

So basically you're saying catholics and muslims are vile for being against gay marriage. But you wouldn't dare slate a muslim for that stance i bet.

mentalfluid · 28/01/2018 01:12

Cupcake sexual orientation isn't a choice. but whether you marry or pair up with someone is. whether you gay straight or bi.

RonaldMcDonald · 28/01/2018 01:50

Yabvvu

Ann is a excellent housemate. She represents the views of many. She is happy for others to disagree with her and she does not take it personally. She is happy for others to hold their views dearly.

Had Shane not drawn attention to her eye rolling it would have simply been the facial expressions of another. I am somewhat bored by the idea that you are not allowed to hold different views anymore.
Shane then tried to make Ann feel bad and expand an eye roll into some amateur psychology around it representing her inability to witness or show love and affection.
Simply because she does not act in the way that he does does not make her wrong or less valid

I am glad to see her in the BB house.

RainbowGlitterFairy · 28/01/2018 01:59

I know Ann, we do not get on.

However she doesn't think being gay is disgusting, she just doesn't agree with gay marriage, She has always backed the rights of mums, and dad's, to stay at home, she is also the one that backed me when MIL was slagging me off for going back to work, her issue is with both parents having no choice but to work all the hours under the sun. I campaigned against her on Kent's own section 28, she was wrong but her views were not homophobic, just plain stupid.

She was a far better local MP than Helen Grant, at least when she came to visit the homeless she actually spoke to them rather than getting some nice photos while they waited outside in the rain...

RonaldMcDonald · 28/01/2018 02:00

I am also unsure she is rolling her eyes regarding homosexuality. I think she finds a lot of what goes on unnecessary and I would agree.

Shane's constant need to educate or refer to his struggle as a gay man must become farking boring and performative after a while.

She was a well loved MP, chosen for ability. Went to Oxford at a time it was male dominated and stands firm in what she believes.
It might not be what others believe but I find her refreshingly honest, lucid and open
I am amazed by people saying she must be miserable. She might be lonely at times but why miserable. She has led a devout life of service and informed opinion.
I cannot believe Malika - there because she is friends with a woman who is famous gets to say that unchallenged.

She may say things you disagree with but she deserves respect imo

Ivymaud · 28/01/2018 02:11

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Izzabellasasperella · 28/01/2018 02:23

Mini can you explain why you agree with he re gay marriage?

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 28/01/2018 07:17

Why on earth would anyone disapprove of gay marriage? It’s not like it affects anyone except for the people themselves who want to get married.

There’s literally nothing to object to.

MiniAlphaBravo · 28/01/2018 07:21

izabella I just think that marriage is for a man and a woman. No issue with civil partnerships or the idea of being gay itself, just think that actual marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman.

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