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To think this vlogger is a CF?

361 replies

SteamyBeignets · 18/01/2018 21:48

AIBU to think this chancer (with a horrible makeup) is just an entitled, freeloading brat?

VLogger asking for a free hotel room and gets a beautiful reply from hotel owner.

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youredeadtomesteven · 19/01/2018 17:30

With regards to her eyes, she has very recently had double eye surgery

Leontine · 19/01/2018 17:56

I've just read the original email and I thought it would be way worse that it actually was!
I actually first heard about it through the hotel manager's point of view and thought he came across as right dick. Sure it would have been much easier to just say no or ignore the email?

If I'd gone on their FB page and seen them trying to publicly humiliate someone like this it would definitely put me off going there. I hate the whole public humiliation and shaming on social media anyway but it's even more off putting when a business does it. (Like when restaurants leave an arsey reply to negative reviews on Trip Advisor).

goldengimbas · 19/01/2018 18:42

They didn't try to publicly humiliate her, the original email from the hotel did not mention a name. She named herself

Leontine · 19/01/2018 18:49

The email (albeit with the name obscured) was an attempt at public humiliation.

StripySocksAndDocs · 19/01/2018 18:52

That's his thing though. Humiliating people. Banter and the such like.

DreamyMcDreamy · 19/01/2018 18:56

Banter and the such like.

Oh, yes. "Banter." Hmm I'm all for banter but all too often it's thrown around to disguise out and out bullying twat behaviour.
"S'up with ya, it's banter, innit!"
No, you're (general you) is just an arsehole.

Leontine · 19/01/2018 19:00

Stripy It's not really good business practise though is it?

PoorYorick · 19/01/2018 19:02

Stripy It's not really good business practise though is it?

It seems to do the job. It wasn't a customer service issue because she wasn't a customer. But it's got both of them stacks of coverage.

StripySocksAndDocs · 19/01/2018 19:18

Seems to work for him though Leontine.

I'm trying to think of a time when him online 'banter' was not a young woman.

I think the vegan customer might have been female (will check), the gluten free customer was. Obviously breastfeeding banter wasn't about a man!!!

(Just for the record I don't really think it's banter).

DreamyMcDreamy · 19/01/2018 19:31

Quick google - vegan customer, female.

  • doctors note needed for coeliac sufferers and that "it's all a fad" - female.

  • breastfeeding - female.

Figures it's young women all the time. Bet he wouldn't think he was so big and hard if it was a burly bloke he was taking the piss out of and humiliating.
Coward.

StripySocksAndDocs · 19/01/2018 19:42

Ok not just women!

Here he mocked a young Brazilian man who had been in for an interview.

www.dailyedge.ie/white-moose-cafe-brazlians-2626306-Feb2016/

The comments in that reminded me about his posting a video of a woman who left a review: cctv footage of her 'inhaling" or maybe "horsing" her food.

He tends to throw a tantrum troll bad reviews. He gets a lot of support too, those who think it's funny.

MadMags · 19/01/2018 19:44

Actually I’m always quite pleased when people declare that they find him hilarious.

It means I know who to avoid like the plague!

goldengimbas · 20/01/2018 00:24

How can you publicly humiliate someone if you don't name them?

DreamyMcDreamy · 20/01/2018 00:37

How can you publicly humiliate someone if you don't name them?
He apparently blacked out her name but did such a crap job that it quickly got pointed out that if you zoomed in you could identify her.
So yeah, he "didn't" name her but actually he kind of did if that's the case.
Even if he "didn't" mean to publicly name her, he's still a nasty hypocrital bastard for the way he went about calling her out.
Could have just said no instead of being so nasty to get likes and attention for himself.
She did nothing wrong. He on the other hand, did.

CauliflowerBalti · 20/01/2018 00:56

@DreamyMcDreamy - exactly. Doesn’t matter what you think of her pitch, her make up, her eye, her on screen persona and editing style, the way she earns her money... her only crime is being not that brilliant at her job. We’ve all been there, at the start of our careers, making a misstep, not getting it quite right. Does it warrant social media assassination? No. She did absolutely nothing wrong. He did. I don’t understand why anyone is criticising her. It seems spiteful to me. How would we all feel if our worse work fuck ups went viral? If a woman in her forties posted on here that they’d sent a business proposal to another business and the recipient had shared it on his social media channels and laughed at her, what would the response me? I can’t see that anyone would say she deserved it, even if the proposal was shonky. Because no one does deserve that. Even people that annoy you a bit.

She didn’t identify herself. She looked at her phone and found a social media shitstorm. That’s humiliating. I’m sorry, but two wrongs don’t make a right. He shouldn’t have done what he did and it’s a kind of weird victim blaming to suggest she deserves it just because we don’t like her that much. People. We are better than this.

PutUpWithRain · 20/01/2018 01:09

In case anyone hadn't noticed, 'Mumsnet Bloggers' recently changed their name to 'Mumsnet Influencers' which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

Fuck that shit. I'm really fucking tired of reading 'delightful and wonderful and simply lovely' vanilla beige boring shite in reviews of cack you know the writer got for free in exchange for 'exposure'. It is, quite simply, bollocks, and I would never trust a review of something I know the writer was invited to review or got for free.

If you blog/vlog that's what you do. Don't expect freebies, or adoration, or that fuckawful term 'influencer'. Make people want to read your shit because it's good, not because you're some kind of aspirational idol like a low rent Tara P-T getting freebies from everyone in order to drum up interest in both of you.

I'll shut up now before I go full Kermode.

juliesaway · 20/01/2018 02:39

This social media influencer blogging bollocks has been around since about 1998. These muppets think they are the first to do it. They are certainly the most shameless and dishonest. There’s no integrity in Instagrammers and VLog, Youtubers etc. legal decent honest and truthful? All fake, lapped up by impressionable children and young adults who don’t realise they are being had. What do they say in marketing - there’s one born every minute.

juliesaway · 20/01/2018 02:41

Sick of hearing people being called influencers.....spammers, deceiet dealing self promoters more like.

Oswin · 20/01/2018 03:15

How on earth can anyone like the disableist nasty fucker. He's a knob

Orchardgreen · 20/01/2018 03:39

I wonder if she pays tax on her income?

weetabix07 · 20/01/2018 03:54

@Fruitboxjury I wish I could understand the appeal of watching people talk about themselves - I can't. I can't for the life of me understand why folk watch them. It's like reality tv times one billion more awful.

k2p2k2tog · 20/01/2018 07:57

I can't see the appeal either. The only blogger/vlogger I've ever followed is Peter and Jane on Facebook - because she is funny and short. Yes she's writing about being a mother with school age kids but it's funny and takes 5 minutes to read and she's not plugging products.

Some blogs, especially those focusing on a very specific niche can have a lot of really good information about a certain hobby or city. There's food/restaurant blogger in my city who blogs a lot about places opening, closing, general food issues and sometimes restaurant reviews. I'll dip in and out of her blog too.

But the lifestyle blogs are just tedious and dull. These not terribly intelligent women have seen how much money Zoella has made and want the same. Irrespective of that fact that Zoella has been doing it for years, has millions of followers and that these "influencers" have nothing different to offer. Shopping, holidays, lifestyle. Dull, dull, dull.

But then I don't get why people would watch fake reality either like that Essex or Chelsea thing.

Biker47 · 20/01/2018 09:05

I'm so glad a no mark 22 year old "girl (aren't they usually called adults everywhere else? or women?) on youtube has made me aware of Universal Florida, I mean I never would have known it existed if it wasn't for her collabaration with them, which was apparently "amazing" for them.

She's a cheeky fucker and I agree with the above post, it's the zoella effect, any young person with a camera and an internet connection now thinks everyone around the world is interested in their mundane lives and fake drama they create, because someone else has already been along and done it more successfully.

Her jump cut editing is terrible aswell.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2018 09:46

biker😂😂😂😂 Cauliflower guess you live and learn, bet she won't make that mistake now. I agree he was inprofessional and made himself look bad, when he coukd have just said no thanks.

CRbear · 20/01/2018 09:51

I haven’t read all the way through so I’m not sure if the has been said but she recently had an eye operation hence her bloodshot eyes. Seems very cruel for some to focus so much, negatively, on her appearance. Would what she was saying be different if she wasn’t “overly, badly contoured” or if her eyes weren’t “gross”? I don’t see the relevance.

Completely disagree with most people about this too. This is someone’s job. Whether we like it or not- you tubers and other “social media influencers” are a recognised way of advertising now and it’s a completely normal thing for her to suggest- just like any other business proposition. She wasn’t rude, she didn’t demand- she made an offer which he could have equally politely declined. As it is he looks like he gets a lot of advertising and subsequently business by being controversial like this so I think it suited him just fine to ignore all that. I think the hotel owner is ignorant at best and a rude and manipulative at worst (and most likely in my opinion!). She could have phrased it better but it does seem true that certain age groups haven’t got grips with the idea that with hard work to build a following this can become a paying job whether they like it or not!

In the end they’ve probably both got more followers out if it and it will harm neither of them but I do think he was in the wrong here (and has been many times before as it’s been pointed out already).

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