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All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)

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badbadhusky · 17/01/2018 22:57

A nod to Banzai there for old timers like me.

Old thread here.

Question is, is it Mueller time yet? Anyone fancy placing a bet on when Trump will exit the POTUS role?

My bet: 20 March 2019.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 15:17

I am taking great pleasure in doing just that Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/01/2018 15:18

Ooh! How I wonder how many times he dared to say "Ah do not recall"...

cozietoesie · 23/01/2018 15:20

I think he has the phrase on autopilot - so a great many, I'd guess. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 15:29

So it was option 3: release the memo was a distraction for when more shoes dropped in the Russia investigation

Kyle Cheney‏Verified account
@kyledcheney
A timeline:

1/17: Jeff Sessions interviews with Mueller.

1/18: House intel committee votes to share classified FISA memo with full House.

1/20: Sen. Johnson writes letter about 5 months of missing texts btw FBI officials.

1/22: Sessions vows to investigate missing texts.

1/23: Trump tweets about missing texts.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 15:45

More good news (of a different kind):

Florida Takes Big Step Toward Expanding Voting Rights To Over 1.5 Million People

The state has some of the country's harshest laws disenfranchising felons. That could change in November.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/florida-felony-disenfranchisement_us_5a62060fe4b074ce7a07ab01

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 15:57

More follow the money re:Stormy

Citizens for Ethics‏Verified account
@CREWcrew
President Trump is accused of paying $130,000 in hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels to hide an affair a month before the election. In what is probably just a coincidence, the Trump campaign transferred $130K to the Trump businesses a month after the election.

twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/955827857221193728

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 16:05

Pinch of salt and all that (do you think he pulled a "I do not recall" with Trump? Wink)

Scott Dworkin
‏*@funder*
Two people close to the WH told me this AM Trump was “absolutely fuming” because Sessions didn’t report back in detail on how his interview went with Mueller’s team. Apparently Trump was “begging” Sessions to tell him what questions were asked & Sessions wouldn’t tell him much.

cozietoesie · 23/01/2018 16:06

It would be par for the course, I think. Wink

Gumpendorf · 23/01/2018 16:31

Sorry Bigly. ThanksThanks

I agree about Brexit and Trump, Pain.

Good news about Sessions. He's knee deep in Russia and Comey, so he's either indicted himself for perjury or given Mueller more evidence. The AG taking the fifth would be Shock and Mueller could presumably take him before a Grand Jury if he felt he was getting the runaround.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 17:02

Is this quite a quick response by the dems? I’m impressed with the turnaround (though I don’t know If I should be - no idea about how this would usually work)

ABC News
@ABC
NEW: Sen. Feinstein, Rep. Schiff urge Facebook and Twitter to investigate involvement of Russian bots in pushing "Release the Memo" campaign: "If these reports are accurate, we are witnessing an ongoing attack by the Russian government through Kremlin-linked social media actors."

All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)
All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)
lionheart · 23/01/2018 17:22

Never lie to the FBI.

PerkingFaintly · 23/01/2018 17:24

In the UK: Government announces anti-fake news unit
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42791218

A committee of MPs is currently carrying out an inquiry into the "growing phenomenon" and has demanded information from Facebook and Twitter including on Russian activity during the EU referendum.
Downing Street told political reporters: "The government will respond with more and better use of national security communications to tackle these interconnected complex challenges.
"We will build on existing capabilities by creating a dedicated national security communications unit. This will be tasked with combating disinformation by state actors and others. It will more systematically deter our adversaries and help us deliver on national security priorities."
Last month the BBC launched a new scheme to help young people identify real news and filter out fake or false information.

lionheart · 23/01/2018 17:29

If that payment breaks the campaign finance law, who takes the rap?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 17:37

Lawrence did a good segment on it last night

Investigation demanded into Trump's alleged porn star payment

www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/investigation-demanded-into-trump-s-alleged-porn-star-payment-1143243331794

Lweji · 23/01/2018 17:39

Could he be impeached for that payment? Or lying about it?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 17:45

Chuck Schumer has informed the White House that he’s withdrawing his offer to give Trump the money he needed for the border wall, Politico reports.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/23/chuck-schumer-trump-wall-offer-359156#click=t.co/A4kP6FZNsV" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/23/chuck-schumer-trump-wall-offer-359156#click=t.co/A4kP6FZNsV

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 17:49

Impeachment, whatever the cause, needs republican support. I don’t think it makes much material difference if it is for fraud or Russian collusion, the gop aren’t likely to go for it until it’s absolutely unavoidable (and I think it’ll be mueller’s investigation that has the best chance of that)

Lweji · 23/01/2018 17:55

If the Trump campaign transferred 130k to Trump business, does that mean he didn't personally have that amount of cash, or it would affect his cash flow significantly? I.e. does that mean he isn't as rich as he claims and he is poor ?

Lweji · 23/01/2018 18:00

I suppose impeachment will depend on how Nov 2018 goes.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 18:06

If the dems take control of the house/senate then there’ll be a smorgasbord of things to impeach him on Grin

lionheart · 23/01/2018 18:09

Probably just tight rather than poor. And always looking for a freebie.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 18:31

The Hill
@thehill
JUST IN: Trudeau announces new Pacific trade agreement without US hill.cm/DCW5Lj4

BiglyBadgers · 23/01/2018 18:50

Chuck Schumer has informed the White House that he’s withdrawing his offer to give Trump the money he needed for the border wall, Politico reports.

I am assuming this is in part a response to the way Trump and the white house have handled the agreement on the budget the other day. I did think it was pretty stupid of them to go so heavy on the Dems caved and are losers angle when they still have to make an agreement again in a few weeks. All they have done is made it even harder for the Dems to make concessions in future.

megletthesecond · 23/01/2018 18:52

Melania has dropped out of the Davos trip Grin.

Fekko · 23/01/2018 18:54

I’m sure she has some important stuff to do. I’d be roller skating around the White House myself.