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All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)

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badbadhusky · 17/01/2018 22:57

A nod to Banzai there for old timers like me.

Old thread here.

Question is, is it Mueller time yet? Anyone fancy placing a bet on when Trump will exit the POTUS role?

My bet: 20 March 2019.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:27

Paul Ryan Collected $500,000 In Koch Contributions Days After House Passed Tax Law

That's peanuts compared with what the Koch brothers will save.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a63ce41e4b0dc592a09697c/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004&ncid=engmodushpmg00000004&__twitter_impression=true

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 14:28

Hemant Mehta

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Franklin Graham Dismisses Trump’s Alleged Affair: He’s Not “President Perfect” dlvr.it/QC7XF0 pic.twitter.com/5pyEGae6JO

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:29

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Rand Paul to @jaketapper: “I’m actually a fiscal conservative who doesn’t want to throw the kitchen sink at the wall,” adding that “$40 billion” and “$21 million per mile” for Trump’s border wall is “outrageous”

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 14:31

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FUN FACT: The governments of all "s**thole countries" are open today. #TrumpShutdown

Grin Grin Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:31

Does Donald Trump Want to Be Dictator of the United States?

His behavior over the past 12 months lines up alarmingly well with studies of authoritarianism.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/01/donald-trump-wants-to-be-dictator-of-the-united-states/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:35

Id guess they’ll deploy it as a dead cat when there’s growing backlash against the shutdown/another gaffe/more shoes have dropped in mueller’s investigation

#ReleaseTheMemo? Source Says ‘Only A Matter Of Time’

amp.thedailybeast.com/releasethememo-source-says-only-a-matter-of-time?ref=home&__twitter_impression=true

cozietoesie · 21/01/2018 14:35

It's a meaty article, Pain, and well worth reading again.

"Kissinger, ................., described Kushner as occupying a “daunting role flying close to the sun.”

One wonders whether he was referring to Icarus? Smile

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 14:36

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Two quotes you need to read side by side.

  1. From Trump
  2. From Trump's chief strategist, Steve Bannon

Spread this widely. pic.twitter.com/lKMoDpMW0X

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 14:39

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Great to see how hard Republicans are fighting for our Military and Safety at the Border. The Dems just want illegal immigrants to pour into our nation unchecked. If stalemate continues, Republicans should go to 51% (Nuclear Option) and vote on real, long term budget, no C.R.’s!

4:35 AM - 21 Jan 2018

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:39

Trump's budget chief says shutdown could last more than a week

thehill.com/policy/finance/369978-trumps-budget-chief-says-shutdown-could-last-more-than-a-week?amp&__twitter_impression=true

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 14:41

FLImmigrantCoalition

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.@CustomsBorder got on a Greyhound bus yesterday at 4:30pm in Fort Lauderdale and asked every passenger for their papers and to prove citizenship. Proof of citizenship is NOT required to ride a bus! For more information about your rights, call our hotline👉 1-888-600-5762 pic.twitter.com/rWJn61o8VP

@Re4mImmigration @AmericasVoice @UndocuBlack @undocumedia @GreyhoundBus should speak out about how these enforcement sweeps are scaring away customers and violating the constitutional rights of riders. Or does Greyhound believe any1 that rides their buses must prove citizenship?

cozietoesie · 21/01/2018 14:45

I've changed my mind a little. The way events are playing out, I suspect that the GOP is now painting itself into a corner with the shutdown. The polls might be .........interesting. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:49

across (and anyone else currently in America) what’s the news coverage of the women’s march like? There are people on twitter saying it’s not receiving the attention it deserved given the numbers of people mobilized and although the shut down would be a contributing factor in that, it still wasn’t as acknowledged as it might have been. Does this ring true?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:50

I was surprised by rand Paul’s comments. Seems counter to his usual line (in that I agreed with what he was saying for once Shock)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 14:56

Asha Rangappa
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Great thread (with visuals!) on how Russian bots and trolls exacerbate and exploit political echo chambers on both sides

mobile.twitter.com/katestarbird/status/954802718018686976

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 15:02

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Owners of a Trump-branded hotel in Panama are suing the Trump Organization, demanding the termination of the management contract with the Trump Org. and the removal of Trump’s name from the hotel.

The reason? They say Trump's name is bad for business. www.nbcnews.com/news/latin-america/panama-hotel-owners-want-trump-s-name-property-n838431

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 15:05

Andrea Mitchell
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.@VP gets political on military base near Syria slams dems for shutdown tells troops a minority of Senate has decided to shut down govt says White House won’t negotiate over “illegal immigration”til they reopen (DACA isn’t illegal immigration..)

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 15:13

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Shutdown is "good thing for us" politically, Eric Trump says on Fox News cbsn.ws/2BhWpUy

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 15:16

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During the #TrumpShutdown Republican Senators will keep getting their paychecks, but our troops won’t.

As a taxpayer, I think that’s obscene.

goose1964 · 21/01/2018 15:19

I suspect that the glass under the orange one's desk is to stop his bulk from pushing his chair wheels into the carpet, although it would also catch any spilt diet cola who's is a sod to get out

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 15:21

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Shutdown: Trump calls on Republicans to use the "nuclear option" as stalemate enters second day bit.ly/2FZJcn1 pic.twitter.com/s4YqN5QON5

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2018 15:21

David Axelrod
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WH legislative director tries to wash his hands of despicable immigration ads. “That was run by an outside group.” As @chucktodd pointed out, the “outside group” is Donald J. Trump for president!
Extraordinary. The president claims no control over his OWN CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE?

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 15:24

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POTUS said we “need a good shutdown.” The OMB Director finds it “cool” to be in charge of the shutdown. The son says it is “good for us.” Two bipartisan deals blown up by R’s in two weeks. Our requests to reopen govt for at least 24 hours blocked on floor. But, both sides!

7:20 AM - 21 Jan 2018

Roussette · 21/01/2018 15:25

I think it's disgusting Trump and ignorant son are blaming Dems for military not getting paid. There is a clip here showing McConnell objecting - if that's not deliberate I don't know what is

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Early this morning, @clairecmc tried to pass a bill to guarantee military pay and death benefits in the #TrumpShutdown.
Republican Leader Mitch McConnell: I object. WATCH:

GingerIvy · 21/01/2018 15:27

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WH legislative director tries to wash his hands of despicable immigration ads. “That was run by an outside group.” As @chucktodd pointed out, the “outside group” is Donald J. Trump for president!
Extraordinary. The president claims no control over his OWN CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE?

7:16 AM - 21 Jan 2018

Note that no one at WH has thus far called for the ads to be taken down.