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All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)

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badbadhusky · 17/01/2018 22:57

A nod to Banzai there for old timers like me.

Old thread here.

Question is, is it Mueller time yet? Anyone fancy placing a bet on when Trump will exit the POTUS role?

My bet: 20 March 2019.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/01/2018 15:22

There's a fair bit of illuminating opinion about Seth Abramson in this piece - of which I was ignorant.
Taking everything with a large pinch of salt, I may only rely on Renato Marriotti for legal explanations now...

The bizarre rise and dramatic fall of Louise Mensch and her ‘Blue Detectives’
twitter.com/juddlegum/status/954731856695578624

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/01/2018 15:25

Word from the White House is that Donald Trump is in a TERRIBLY BAD mood this morning. Maybe it’s because he got a really shitty anniversary present.
#TrumpShutdown
twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/954731693365178369

AcrossthePond55 · 20/01/2018 15:31

Word from the White House is that Donald Trump is in a TERRIBLY BAD mood

Oooh, oooh! I've always wanted to use this phrase! It's not a 'usual' American one. Would we say that Scrotus is in a 'right paddy'? My usual 'turn of phrase' would be that he's 'pitching a hissy'.

Fekko · 20/01/2018 15:34

Tantrum? The grumps?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 15:42

I’ve read a few pieces in a similar vein to that over the last few months so have stopped linking his stuff on here northwest. He did a rebuttal to the last one I saw, which seemed plausible so haven’t unfollowed him but I’ve been less inclined to post his musings on here. Though I also still see what garland, John Schindler, rick Wilson and a few others post just to see what their latest theories are, though mensch and Taylor are a bridge too far. Incidentally, mensch is now claiming that kamala Harris is an enemy (she’s a Tamil Tiger apparanetly Hmm, joining the motley crew of pelosi and schiff that mensch also has a problem with.

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Jared Kushner met several times with the Chinese ambassador, would often exclude the government’s top China specialists from his meetings, New Yorker reports.

www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/29/jared-kushner-is-chinas-trump-card/amp?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 15:45

Robert Costa
@costareports
Inside the room: House GOP read out headlines of NYT and AP, among others, and talked up idea this is a Dem-causes shutdown, per person there. Person adds that GOP holding to position and believe Senate Dems have to move toward them...

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
NYT once again operating as a Trump propaganda outlet, with its lies used by the GOP to shape policy that causes citizens to suffer

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 15:52

Hope the march goes well across.

Will be following how some of I t goes on here

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/jan/20/womens-marches-protest-donald-trump-anniversary-inauguration-government-shutdown-live

Roussette · 20/01/2018 15:56

Good luck with the march Across and yes 'a right paddy' is good. However, I want him to be 'spitting feathers' Grin

Roussette · 20/01/2018 16:01

Why would the Republicans do this? How can Trump blame the Dems when they could've protected military pay - instead they chose not to?

Do they think people won't know ? A Bill was introduced by a Democrat senator and they chose not to back it.

shareblue.com/watch-mitch-mcconnell-kill-effort-to-protect-military-pay-as-gop-pushed-for-shutdown/#.WmNbKGl8CCI.twitter

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 16:13

I would venture it’s because:

  1. they don’t care about protecting anything other than things that’ll financially reward them/give them power
  2. it gives outlets like fox an opportunity to say “THE DEMS DONT CARE ABOUT THE SECURITY OF THE COUNTRY - THEYRE ENDANGERING US ALL” while neatly failing to mention things like actual facts. This in turn will lead to more people saying “urgh the MSM - they’re always so harsh on trump” as well as painting an imaginary target on the enemy to direct people’s anger towards and also stoking up more fears that prime people into accepting more authoritarian measures.

That would be my guess anyway.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 16:17

Even if people aren’t personally affected by the shutdown, the optics of this can’t be good

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 16:19

I hadn’t considered this. Certainly thought provoking

TBashII
@RukhnamaLives
Replying to @sarahkendzior
wonder how long it's going to take the media to figure out that the Trump admin/GOP hardliners have zero interest in re-opening the gov't...

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
I've been wondering about this too. The parts of government the extremist GOP values remain open, and the shutdown makes it harder to hold officials accountable for abuses of power. Do they really want it to end?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 16:20

But surely it couldn’t continue indefinitely?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/01/2018 16:20

Yes Pain I also found Mensch and Taylor OTT to say the least. It can be difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff at the moment. But I'm sure we're all totally legit on here! Grin

cozietoesie · 20/01/2018 16:25

I have just a suspicion that this shutdown is going to 'harden off' some of the 2020 contenders.......

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/01/2018 16:57

No wonder he's "pitching a hissy" Grin

According to WH: POTUS has spoken to McConnell this morning, Short and Mulvaney working Hill, Kelly calling lawmakers. Trump will not travel to Florida absent a deal.
twitter.com/jamesoliphant/status/954749867938770945

Trump in Palm Beach: President to forgo fundraiser event amid shutdown
www.palmbeachpost.com/news/trump-palm-beach/7J4erTZDNYSYIU4StwM5zK/amp.html

cozietoesie · 20/01/2018 17:05

It would be lousy optics. Wink

I believe that the event is proceeding, though?

Roussette · 20/01/2018 17:08

So he's got to miss his fundraiser at MarALago because they can't sneak him out without the press knowing?

Good.
Hope he bursts a blood vessel in rage!

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 20/01/2018 17:15

Apparently babies shouldn't be born at nine months. You learn something every day.

mobile.twitter.com/MattTurner4L/status/954462339125923841

Trump at the anti abortion march a few days ago.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 17:27

Shannon Watts
@shannonrwatts
On the #womensmarch2018 anniversary, the New York Times profiled @NRA lobbyist Dana Loesch: www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/style/dana-loesch-national-rifle-association

This puff piece ignores Loesch's racist, bigoted and violent rhetoric meant to foment a culture war that is killing Americans and enriching gun manufacturers.

mobile.twitter.com/NRATV/status/893230656125149185

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/01/2018 17:32

LEAKED: President Trump's Official Government Shutdown Briefing
twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/954444920349175808

All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)
cozietoesie · 20/01/2018 17:36

A "solid two hours of work"? Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/01/2018 17:39

Who's in and who's out as the West Wing grapples with shutdown
'There is no support staff, limited food and there are no assistants,' says one Obama veteran of the 2013 government closure.
www.politico.com/story/2018/01/20/government-shutdown-west-wing-staff-352229

cozietoesie · 20/01/2018 17:42

I hope that the 'Diet Coke Butler' is classified as an essential worker. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/01/2018 17:53

Trump lashes out as #TrumpShutdown trends worldwide on inauguration anniversary

shareblue.com/trump-lashes-trumpshutdown-trends-worldwide-inauguration-anniversary/#.WmN4rkhEAqU.twitter