What punishment would you expect for this behaviour?

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Child A is known to 'pick on' child B.

Child B is a vulnerable student with autism and other LD.

Whilst using a school system which they access through phones Child A types in his username as

"Child B is autistic"

All this comes up on screen and teacher deleted.

Child A then retypes

"Child B autism boy"

Removed again and told it's not funny so Child A types

"Child B is a spastic"

He was then kicked off permanently.

What sort of punishment would you expect the child to have had?
Do you think the child should have been allowed a second go and then a third?

It was child A who typed in stuff about child B every time. Have asked MNHQ to amend so it makes sense!

Child B types in his username

Do you mean Child A?

If yes, then I think it is standard practise to give Child A a couple of chances to rectify their behaviour. Not sure about punishments though as I don't have any experience in this area.

Totally depends on if the children are 8 or 13.

Oops, should have seen your second post!

Two chances only, off after the second. Should never have got as far as calling him a "spastic".

Do you mean punishment from the school/teacher?

Child A is a nasty little shit regardless of age........other kids shouldn't have to put up with his behaviour or influences.

I’m not sure punishment is necessarily the answer. I’d think it depends on their ability to understand. Education and explanation might have more impact. Then an apology.

Id expect child As parents to be spoken to with child A present to discuss how offensive and hurtful that behaviour was. Id expect child A to be asked to make a full apology and id expect a close eye to be kept on interactions between the two in future.

If the school punished him after the two incidents then kicked him off fair enough. Though probably would have taken him off the second time

I would have thought 1 warning shold be sufficient in a situation like this. This is the start of bullying and there should be no soft approach. 1 warning....then a temporary ban, say 1 month. If Child A then continues this behaviour, a permanent ban with a review in 6 months time.

Ultimately, you want a child to learn from their behaviour and to become a better person. But punishments have to reflect the seriousness of the infringement. I think bullying is up there with the worst of behaviours simply because we know a child bully often develops into a bullying adult. 1 warning

one child (A) repeatedly calls another disabled ( his actaul disability), and is allowed to stay on despite two breeches, when the disabled child (B) responds he gets kicked off the site with no warnings.

take it to SLT and ask how it is equal treatment for his disability? (especially given autistic is an insult of choice at themoment)

Child A had been openly "picking on" Child B in lesson for a period building up to this.

Children are 13yo if that makes any difference. He fully understands that that behaviour is unacceptable imo.

What's bothering me is that if the language used was deemed racist it would have been immediate removal from classroom and into isolation and then seclusion for a period of at least 1 day. Regardless of whether they believe the child had a full understanding of what they had said or not.
(That is fact not speculation based on previous knowledge).

My concern also is that the softly softly approach isn't having any effect as the child has subsequently called child B a spastic cunt and followed him into medical room whilst he takes his medication and said in front of everyone "why is Child B taking coke?"

Imo this equates to disablism and is hate crime as it targeted at a disabled child and is always about their disability?

I'm also worried as child B medication is for spasticity and if child A discovered medication name and looks it up it'll give them more ammo and also more ways to get out of his use if wording?

Child A typed

"Child B is autistic"

"Child B autism B"

"Child B is a spastic"

Child B didn't type anything and wasn't kicked off. He was upset and got angry and interestingly enough his peers seemed to think he was getting overly upset?

I agree.

If that had been racist abuse he'd have probably been permanently excluded.........disabilism should be penalised in the same way if not more so. Especially as people who have disabilities are often unable to.defend themselves or walk away.

Have you got screenshots op ?? You can always report this to the police or contact 101 for advice.

It's this sort of build up that results in kids being bullied by large groups as it's seen as the norm........and as we all know. All too often that ends badly for the victim.

They both should be stopped from using it. Until they behave. From what I read both children typed.

Parents of child b should be told,
Child a should be at the least suspended.
At 13 they know what they are doing.

In my school, bullying=after school hour on Friday, automatic. Child A would have been removed from the lesson, spoken to by the Head of year, parents would’ve been automatically informed.

called child B a spastic cunt and followed him into medical room whilst he takes his medication and said in front of everyone "why is Child B taking coke?"

Child A should be put into isolation immediately until their parents/guardians can be contacted to work with school on a suitable programme to manage and modify their behaviour, with sanctions in place to ensure Child A understands the severity of what they've said and to ensure Child B feels safe and comfortable (if possible) when in contact with Child A.

On a personal level, Child A's parents are the ones who need to deal with this. It's never fun being the parent kicking up a fuss and schools absolutely don't want you to be the parent kicking up a stink but in this case you need to, and you need to make it loud and long so that everyone knows how deeply revolting the behaviour is and that Child B won't be treated in that way by disgusting bullies.

I’d want to batter the little shit. The smart arsed little fuck is old enough to know better.

I’m sorry DS is having to go through this, I had thought things were better at his school now 😡😥

The school should be doing, what you said it would do, if they were racist comments. At the very least. But it’s no where near enough.

They both should be stopped from using it. Until they behave. From what I read both children typed

Then you need to re read ALL of the OP’s comments. Child B, her child, didn’t type ANYTHING.

Targeting somebody due to disability is regarded a hate crime by law. Report him, let his parents deal with it

I’d want to batter the little shit.

Who wouldn't, but it might land the teacher in some sort of trouble . . .