What punishment would you expect for this behaviour?

[youarenotkiddingme]

Child A is known to 'pick on' child B.

Child B is a vulnerable student with autism and other LD.

Whilst using a school system which they access through phones Child A types in his username as

"Child B is autistic"

All this comes up on screen and teacher deleted.

Child A then retypes

"Child B autism boy"

Removed again and told it's not funny so Child A types

"Child B is a spastic"

He was then kicked off permanently.

What sort of punishment would you expect the child to have had?
Do you think the child should have been allowed a second go and then a third?

Child A should be kicked to the curb, the nasty little shit, I've read some awful things but that really comes close to the top. What an awful way to behave.

Punishment I would expect would be inhouse suspension/isolation.

Meetings with his parents will be mandatory and he will only be returned to the main school environment when his attitude is deemed adequately remorseful and he has full comprehension of the severity of his actions.

A further seven days of after school detention and removal from all sets that poor boy is in.

Totally unacceptable; if that happened outside the school environment he could have been arrested. It's beyond bullying or picking on someone, it's victimisation due to his disability.

OP, is child B yours? If so I would 1000% report to the police, they would take this very seriously.

Child A's parents should be called in and child A should be suspended for a few days.

If I found out anyone ever dared to call one of my disabled children the S word I'd go through the bloody roof!

That word is no more acceptable than any racist word!

People get away with being disabilist far to easily,it's one thing that seems to be accepted and I hate it as a mother and a mother to disabled children and having become disabled myself.

It should be treated the same way as racism. There’s no grey area here. It’s disablism. That’s a hate crime. I would be going in to talk to the head about this.

I agree with you OP. Ask the school to treat in same way as racism and if the answer is no, involve the police.

It should be treated the same as any other discriminatory remark and acted on heavily. The school should be looking at an education program for disability awareness for all children and child A should get an intensive one and look at his insecurities,

Wow, Child A shouldnt have been give a second or third chance, He was totally out of order, I would expect a punishment for that and also his parents called in about his behaviour him picking on the child and being disabilist.

Child A's parents should be called in

Genuine question. What if they don't come in when called?

Think you cross that bridge when you come to it Andrew, I would have thought most parents would come in if the school asked to speak to them.

I am the parent of child B. He's no angel but he hasn't and has been confirmed he hasn't responded at all. Teachers have admitted to me child A has done these things and ds has walked out of lessons and refused to attend before because of the things he's calling him.

It's reassuring to see that others have the same level of rage about the use of disablist language as I do. Obviously I know it's wrong but as his mum I want the other kid to suffer like ds does!

I also told a teacher at parents evening that it's hate crime and would be treated as such by the police.

I haven't told ds but next time the boy does it after school (because he seeks him out to do it) I'm taking him to the police station to make a statement.

I will email and simply say I've been patient, I've allowed school to deal with it as I know ds and teachers have reported child A behaviour - but enough is enough and I want to know how they will be dealing with it to stop it.

At our school and if secondary that would be a day in isolation unit and parents informed, likely some kind of educational input too.

I've worked in schools for years. If this happened in my school. He'd have got a warning the first time and if it happened again: off the computer for rest of lesson, parents informed of what he did. Probably made to write a letter of apology (after a trip to the head's office) and I imagine he would have written the letter during his lost break/lunch.

Depending of how bad the language was, he'd be banned from iPads/laptops etc for a few weeks too.

youarenotkiddingme

The school is not allowed (legally) to tell you what is happening to the other child

Bonybackjefferson. Of course a school can! I think you mean that the school can't identify the other child. schools can tell you what the punishment was for the offending child.

You can also ask for a copy of the schools behaviour policy and you'll be able to see the action that should have been taken for this type of incident

@sirlee66 but if the parent knows who the other child is? Not appropriate to share information with the other parent.

Also behaviour policy may lost sanctions but many (certainly ours) doesn't say what sanction for what behaviour. Often depends on the child and particular circumstance (e.g. Is it the first offence etc)

They could choose to tell me or not. If they chose not to, I could choose to tell the police. Up to them.

I would have thought most parents would come in if the school asked to speak to them.
Sadly not! Very often those whose children are the most difficult avoid facing the issue and will fail to answer the phone or come into school.

The sort of parent who is on MN is not the sort of parent who will come to the school if asked; and vice versa.

School can't legally tell me - I know that!

But I know who Child is and school know I know as I use his name when they say "other child" and my ds knows if the child is in isolation or seclusion etc as they wouldn't be in class!

No sanction beyond a detention has been given. And even then it's not immediately or every time.

I can't say if parent would or wouldn't come to school as they attended parents evening. So not the type to avoid teacher contact?

sirlee66

The school cannot tell you. it is to do with the data protection act.

Your focus should be on how they protect your child, not what punishment the other child will get. Pushing the school on the former will should get you further

School don't have to discuss Child A with you but they are obliged to put measures in to protect Child B and can absolutely share those measures with you (and answer to you if you're unhappy/dissatisfied with them). This isn't about Child A; his parents need to deal with him. This is about safeguarding Child B and at present the school are failing spectacularly.

Sorry, poster B (lackeyedSusan) needs to go back to reading comprehension classes. put it down to over consumption of virtual gin in the pub