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Babaloo88 · 13/01/2018 19:22

Why is the other thread closed?!? I was enjoying reading through it?!!

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CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 15:31

Aren't going to move the discussion forward? That's a laugh, there wasn't any discussion before I posted. It was getting so fucking bad that people were on about calling in SS and just name calling. I'm not the one derailing. Unless your definition of derailing is"go away, we just want to slag off and not be questioned on our shittiness."
There was discussion earlier in the thread. It's just descended into crazy land now.

MadameGrizzly · 13/04/2018 15:31

There's lots out there with huge followings and this USP.

These accounts that you just alluded to, Cady.

Who are they so we can compare them to FOD? Smile

Sofialemon · 13/04/2018 15:34

@MadameGrizzly Yes I did suggest that, as I didn't believe any of you actually thought his kids are at risk. It seems some of you really do, yet still see no need to raise this with the children's mother, or SS.

Not sure if it's more ridiculous that you seemingly really do think they're at risk, or that given you think that, you're doing nothing about it. By you I mean the various posters who are obsessively going on about FODs parenting on here.

Sofialemon · 13/04/2018 15:35

@MarshaBradyo

I'd hardly call picking someones parenting apart and saying they'e endangering their kids "chat".

MarshaBradyo · 13/04/2018 15:36

It is true a frustrating thread indeed

Why anyone would want to contact them or an outside agency is ridiculous

CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 15:37

Flyingbird THAT IS WHY I said it was a joke! I know it was. I got ya. It's clear on here that some have difficulty differentiating though. Put yourself as an Instant with hundreds of followers, say you feed your kids vodka with no smileys in your comment, people clearly DO believe. I mean there's some on here that do find it hard to grasp that some things aren't always as they seem.

MarshaBradyo · 13/04/2018 15:39

Not all of us are saying the same thing

I won’t use words like at risk, or safeguarding because it’s not the right language

But I do think a couple of poses look risky but I cannot see what is out of shot

And yes we’re stuck on this because of the disagreement it keeps the conversation going even if people don’t want it to - probably due to the fact people don’t want it to

Sofialemon · 13/04/2018 15:43

@pineapplefritter

I think if anyone managed to get last nights video perhaps send to their local SS

@holiday101

I strongly suspect if FOd was a man of colour and on benefits that he would be under the radar of SS. We all know it is a stupid act, but still some of his stunts have made me recoil (and I am a very lax parent)

I don't really care about them but it is interesting that MOD isn't bothered about comments regarding the safety of her dd's but immediately jumps out in Fod's defence if someone says he isn't funny.

The above posts show clearly at least 2 posters this SS should be made aware. If any of you think SS would have any issue with FOD's insta account then you are absolutely fucking mental.

holiday101 · 13/04/2018 15:43

No way would Social Services have any interest in FOD, even if he was black and skint. Also I found that comment (I'm aware those are not the words used) shocking.

Don't know who used the black and skint terminology, but sadly being White, MC, educated and living in a lovely house does help. I know families who are hanging on by the skin of their teeth, often from poverty stricken backgrounds or the care system themselves, living in damp, grotty accommodation through no fault of their own. There are others who actually have no clue about how to parent and their children are at a risk as a result and often removed. I think that is why FoD has increasingly angered me as he is making money by pretending to not have a clue, whilst using his twins and their 'feral' (his words) behaviour to illustrate his point. What is even worse is that they don't even need the money, as MoD pointed out on another thread, so I can only assume that he is doing it for his own self promotion.

Sofialemon · 13/04/2018 15:49

@MarshaBradyo

Slagging of MOD & FOD is ALWAYS what this thread becomes about (and a few other instamums now and then) whenever the likes of myself or @CadyHeron don't bother coming on for a while.

If you think FOD's annoying or boring then stop looking at his insta.

If you actually really believe he's putting his kids at risk then DM him or Clemmie and discuss it with them. Wtf is the point in just chatting about it on here?!

CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 15:49

Holiday101 - YOU did. Why are you pretending you didn't? You said "of colour and on benefits." On benefits another way of saying skint, right?

holiday101 · 13/04/2018 15:49

No Sofia SS wouldn't be interested in FoD (or any of the instaparents) which in a way is a shame as their human right to privacy may be being infringed. I do think that in this digital age there should be some sort of regulation on filming your children (especially when it involves acting/staging situations) for financial gain, when they are too young to be complicit or give consent.

MadameGrizzly · 13/04/2018 15:50

Posters are have been using the thread to clarify whether they perceive there is risk of harm in what FOD posts. The point of "risk of harm" is that everyone has a different line in the sand. To perceive there is indeed a risk of harm doesn't mean anyone lacks a sense of humour or doesn't have a grip on reality - it's just a differing opinion. (Which is why SS is all about risk rather than actual harm. There doesn't need to be consensus on risk, and they make the decision on what's actual harm.)

To be fair, we don't know if anyone has made a notification. And if they have, we will never know the outcome as its confidential.

Also to be fair, MOD is a mandatory reporter so she mustn't have an issue with her husband's content. /shrug

CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 15:50

Exactly, sofialemon. It's blatantly clear what it really is about.

Sofialemon · 13/04/2018 15:50

@holiday101

I strongly suspect if FOd was a man of colour and on benefits that he would be under the radar of SS. We all know it is a stupid act, but still some of his stunts have made me recoil (and I am a very lax parent)

This was what you said, so basically black and skint.

MarshaBradyo · 13/04/2018 15:52

Fgs
I’ve said the few things I have and that’s it
I’ve said why I’m interested
Anyway when it gets all ranty it’s even more annoying

CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 15:52

Thanks Sofia, can't copy and paste on phone but knew I'd seen it!

MadameGrizzly · 13/04/2018 15:55

I'm still really keen to know who the accounts with huge followings and similar USPs to FOD are, @CadyHeron. Smile

holiday101 · 13/04/2018 15:55

Holiday101 - YOU did. Why are you pretending you didn't? You said "of colour and on benefits." On benefits another way of saying skint, right?

Cady again you are misquoting me. I said 'of colour and on benefits' I did not say 'black and skint' which the poster said she was shocked about.

You may not be aware but being in poverty is a risk factor for child maltreatment and unfortunately many BME families are in this demograph.

CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 15:58

Holiday - stand by what you said.
You said of colour and on benefits and SS would have them on radar.
Sofia said she was paraphrasing, you seem to have missed that.
Although "of colour" - non white
skint - on benefits.
Same thing!

Sofialemon · 13/04/2018 15:59

@MarshaBradyo

I've no idea what your last post meant.

I work in Children's services and can say with certainty that NOTHING I have seen FoD post would be of concern. Even if there was no one stood out of sight.

I personally wouldn't turn my back if my kids were up on the kitchen counter, or allow them on the stairs in their Grobags. I'd panic if 2 small kids ran in different directions in a shop so they'd be in a pushchair or on reigns.

However, I'm a much more cautious parent, I have relatives who are way more lax in their parenting, that is their choice as it is FOD & MOD's.

CadyHeron · 13/04/2018 16:00

Holiday - why do you think they're being maltreated? If they were, you'd have a point. You're basing this on absolutely nothing though, apart from watching an Insta feed.

MarshaBradyo · 13/04/2018 16:02

I just couldn’t be bothered going into it again

But I don’t think it’s do not discuss or contact them - I think that’s ridiculous

MarvelleGazelle · 13/04/2018 16:02

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PavlovaPrincess · 13/04/2018 16:04

@MadameGrizzly good luck getting an answer to that.

This thread is going round and round in circles again thanks to the whataboutery, nitpicking and harassing tactics of the same two posters.