Insta Mum 3

[Babaloo88]

Why is the other thread closed?!? I was enjoying reading through it?!!

I honestly do think it’s a parenting choice, their kids their rules. Personally I wouldn’t do it, but not because of any perceived danger, I think that’s a moot point TBH. But because of how it might impact them later on in life with their career choices. But I guess you can mitigate that by stopping the social media exposure as they get older.

@sofialemon of course I looked, I'd never heard of her before. As I said the posts with her kids attack far more likes than those of her. Some of her get 5000 likes which for an account with 1.4 million followers is very low. But her child isn't branded and advertising clothes or cereal, I watched her stories, no child. What is your point? Her account did not interest me in the slightest, I don't like fake tan or photos of posing. A bit lost on me so I won't being going back to check again.

That article is spot on. It’s also good people are starting to question it

The children are more likely to say I wish they wouldn’t post me online

*attract not attack.
Sofia I didn't bt think you read anything properly. You just wind yourself up. Saying that modelling is regulated is not saying you think it's great. And half these kids have modelled for next and Boden and m&s.
The difference between modelling (which Id not put my kids up for personally) is that you have no idea of names and locations.
You just try to twist it continuously.
Me-railing.
Clearly you'd be a fantastic instagrammer.

I'd never heard of Binky before the parenting contest thingy blew up. I've never watched her TV show and besides, it is irrelevant as this is a thread about Instagram.

But those side by side photos of Binky's IG feed and FOD's IG feed are really telling. It's not only the number of photos featuring children, it's the different style of caption, and the frequency of videos.

@sofialemon I am talking about children being used for a business. Being pictured and videoed daily to earn money. Yes I think that is wrong and yes I think children have a right to privacy. These are accounts with thousands of followers people that are strangers to them. I believe that is different to sharing photos with family and friends privately. You seem to become very stressed when responding to comments I’m not sure why really. It’s just a calm discussion with peoples varying opinions.

@Mumofkids
I can only assume you didn't look as her child is in her current stories and is generally in them daily. There's a pic of India in some @Nextofficial dungarees and if you bothered to look India also features in some of Binky's @inthestyle ad pics.

I suppose as you don't class Binky as an "instamum" (not sure why not though, she's a mum, on insta) you'll just continue to gloss over the likes of her using their insta accounts in a very similar way to DLAM, MOD and others that you like to stalk, sorry follow.

@Sofialemon - Id love a response to my post from earlier today. Apologies for not @ ing you earlier

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SofiaLemon - two things you just posted stood out to me:

I'd be worried if, when they're old enough, they have their own accounts and post the kind of picture I see a lot of kids from 11 upwards posting. I'd like to think they know enough about social media not to do that.

Why do you expect them to exercise any caution or follow safety guidelines re: sharing images of and info about themselves and their friends on social on social media if you don't seem that bothered about any of it?

I've noticed a lot of them have lots of pictures of their younger children but not their older which I assume is because their older kids don't want to be on so much.

If you/they agree that consent is an issue insofar as they stop sharing pictures of older kids who can ask not to be involved why do children who cant consent because they're too young not included in this?

sofia if you take exception to model kids spending hours travelling, how about the travelling insta kids have to do for both the pics the parents want on insta as well as all the freebie hols they need to take for sponsor/ad purposes?

disney
the pointless there and back cruise
MOD hol to some recent resort

So the pros are....

The money earned benefits the whole family

So really it just comes down to money again, the child becomes the bread winner.

The only other argument on here is is "Other people do it". Not really a constructed response is it? Any other pros?

And because I think it is important to remember that the concept of a child's right to privacy isn't arbitrary:

The UK ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child (1989). Article 16 says:

1. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.

1. The child has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

The UK is bound to this international law and compliance is monitored by the United Nations, so I'm looking forward to legislation catching up. France appears to be well ahead of the UK here.

@sofialemon she may well be an instamum. I don't follow her and her account didn't interest me. When I checked stories earlier kid wasn't there. Your obsession with reality mums is a bit full on.
I don't follow DLAM. Or half the others mentioned on here because I clicked unfollow.

@runmummyrun absolutely as MOD even said, she was working for us, with her kids.

There's a pic of India in some @Nextofficial dungarees and if you bothered to look India also features in some of Binky's @inthestyle ad pics.
I'll take your word for it, it's clearly a woman you stalk in all media forms. I looked at a few of her posing but it was not for me, as I said.

@TireSwing

What makes you think I don't exercise caution? I don't post pouty selfies of myself in sexy, revealing outfits (think Kim K or Katie Price) and I don't give out my contact details on any public forums.

I would have no issue with my daughters having their own social media accounts when they are old enough, if used in the same way I use mine. I dislike seeing young girls posting, what imo are provocative pics on their social media.

My 6 & 11 year old still like posing for photo's and actually ask to look through their pics on my social media, they like seeing photo's their friends mums have tagged them in.

In my experience teens often don't want to pose for photo's full stop, never mind being posted on their parents Fbk or insta, I think they just find it a bit "cringe". I'd just go with what my child was happy with. I see no harm whatsoever in posting pics of younger children.

@sofialemon just out of pure interest do you think it acceptable for parents to post pictures and videos daily to earn money from?

I'd just go with what my child was happy with. I see no harm whatsoever in posting pics of younger children.

So, to paraphrase, because you personally don't see any issue with pictures being shared, and babies and toddlers can't decline to have their photos and videos shared, your argument is that we should assume they're happy for this happen until they eventually can either object or say they don't mind?

I think we will disagree on this fundamental point forever.

@RunMummyRun68

I hardly think you can compare a trip to Disney, on a family holiday (even if they do have to pose for a few photo's taken by their parents, which actually just sounds like any normal family holiday) with say a 7 hour drive from up north to London for an all day photo shoot for a catalogue that the child has no interest in.

If I asked my family if they'd like a week somewhere lovely, but that they'd have to pose for some photos snd feature on my insta I'm pretty certain they'd be happy to do that.

@tireswing it seems that way. I suppose that is why these accounts exist. People that don’t find it a problem to monertise a child and use them until they can say otherwise. It’s interesting at what age you have this discussion. Is it 4, 8, 10 at what age is a child intitled to their privacy?

@wishwish this is why it's such a weird concept, the child of children are earning the cash but with no rights. It's a really odd situation.
Imagine finding out your parents had made hundreds of thousands off you, had holidays you couldn't remember, bought houses and floors and expensive paint and there was no provision for you despite you being the breadwinner. Ok perhaps some more responsible account holders may have funds set aside, but currently that is completely up to the parent.
It is really strange.

sofia child models are well looked after. So where's the issue then?

@wishwish

So the pros are....

The money earned benefits the whole family

So really it just comes down to money again, the child becomes the bread winner.

The only other argument on here is is "Other people do it". Not really a constructed response is it? Any other pros?

How is the child the bread winner?! That's ridiculous, it's the parent with the insta account spending time getting the content right and dealing with the business's and messages. All the child is doing is living their normal lives (often with a few extra holidays and day's out thrown in) and having dome photo's taken.

My 11 year old would love it if I could take her to a film premier or had VIP tickets to a concert. These are things kids of some instamums have had. What is the problem with that?