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Why is the other thread closed?!? I was enjoying reading through it?!!

SofiaLemon - two things you just posted stood out to me:

I'd be worried if, when they're old enough, they have their own accounts and post the kind of picture I see a lot of kids from 11 upwards posting. I'd like to think they know enough about social media not to do that.

Why do you expect them to exercise any caution or follow safety guidelines re: sharing images of and info about themselves and their friends on social on social media if you don't seem that bothered about any of it?

I've noticed a lot of them have lots of pictures of their younger children but not their older which I assume is because their older kids don't want to be on so much.

If you/they agree that consent is an issue insofar as they stop sharing pictures of older kids who can ask not to be involved why do children who cant consent because they're too young not included in this?

Tireswing your last point is exactly for me the whole concern!

Me too Wren. Annoyed I didn't proof read before posting tho. I long for an "edit" option!

But child modelling, whereby your kid is pictured publicly in catalogues etc and has to travel and put hours of work in, with strangers is ok?

We've, kind of tediously, discussed this before but child modelling is regulated. The hours are regulated, the content is regulated and the income is regulated.

Child modelling is also anonymous. Do you know the full name, date of birth, address, pets and likes/dislikes of any child model in the Boden catalogue? Have you seen their bedroom? Their play room? Have you seen them getting dressed? Eating dinner? In the bath? On holiday? In their swimsuit and in their snowsuit?

I know nothing about the Boden child catalogue models. I know all that about the Hooper twins.

A child's privacy isn't a privilege.

A child's privacy is a right.

The Dorset Cereal advertisements were poorly executed modelling, too.

I actually think that a lot of the parents are re-evaluating the use of their children within their feeds. Which says to me that they also think that actually it’s not right.

I also find it quite surprising that partners of these ig or other family members think it acceptable. I can’t imagine consenting to my husband using footage of my children after a bath for hundreds of people to see. It is just so very strange to me!

Exactly @madamegrizzly ! Well
Said !

On a slightly different angle , a social media photo is made up of meta data which (if analysed) can provide you with the exact location the picture was taken, scary that is!

People that put themselves online and have millions of followers crack on, if you don't mind potentially being stalked then ok but how can you realistically be ok with uploading pics of your little ones when you're meant to be raising / protecting them?

I wouldn't mind my husband posting a pic of my kid after a bath. But he doesn't have half a million followers...

Completely agree with MadameGrizzly on right to privacy

It’s different to child modelling - even though some think that’s lower than IG

Modelling in a one off Gap campaign doesn’t say anything about the child

Whereas 2 / 3 years daily exposure at home does. So it’s more like a longstanding publicity campaign in the home

Ok most probably don’t realise when they started but it’s easy to stop isn’t it, except the money, likes and freebies would stop

Also whilst it all probably seemed innocent and easy at the start of this trend it’s worth re-considering and discussing as time moves on as it changes and gets bigger

I think quite a few influencers have made their beds now and are somewhat constrained by the situations they've shoe-horned themselves into.

jamoncrumpets yes sorry thats what I meant. Having thousands of people looking at my child I would find un-nerving. It’s different if it’s family and settings are private.

There is a midwife who I was reading about and she seems to be going back to that line of things. I think that is great and she can help and advice far many more people that way rather than by using her children.

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In general on these threads you have been saying it could be harmful to the children. Also many celebs don't keep their children private. They are the main feature of their tv shows, Tamara Ecclestone, Binky, The Mummy Diaries, Katie Price and loads more.
So you think Katie is vile but the fact she features her children on Atc show is admirable? No idea who any of the other people you've mentioned are but if they use their kids, the same applies to them. I'd suggest if your thing is watching reality shows with people who make to shows with their kids and you rate and enjoy that kind of thing, then you will have a differing opinion to most people posting on here.
You've stated you have nothing more to say, you have no issue with use of children and you don't mind subtle ads so we all know how you feel about everything. But it's great you just keep repeating it.
@wren42 I agree with all your comments and posts.
There is no need for FOD to post those images except for engagement. He postedthe other day that the stories of the twins when MOD was away got 23 million hits 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Also agree with others that MOD seems to be shifting her account and am also baffled by her allowing Simon to exploit those children to such a high degree, although he does seem to have reduced it down a bit?

Personally I think that regulated child modelling is far preferable and it would also be regulated.

I don't think much of what Katie Price does is admirable tbh!

Well , I guess when you have a book out soon, you have to keep levels of engagement up ...got to pay for the IKEA furniture somehow

Yes BUT the social media pays way more than the books ever will.

I'd be careful using terms such as 'exploit' Mumofkids, I do understand what you're saying but I think it's phrases like that that get these threads shut down. FWIW I don't think it's as cut and dried as simple child exploitation. I think it for lots of influencers started out as relatively innocuous sharing and grew into this huge cash cow. Now the cow is so big that mortgages have to be paid on it, and school fees, and increased expenses and there's no way of stopping it AND keeping the comfortable lifestyle.

On the flip side aswell the companies that give them things, send them on holidays etc are using them for their own gain ( obviously I know) but they have used their children and as I see it invaded their privacy rights just to take advantage of this. What on earth does that say about who you are and what values you hold. Your greed etc is more important than that of your child’s right to not be used on social media. You can never take those pictures and videos back they are out there now. It just goes against everything I believe in as a parent to protect your child not expose them.

Exploit -make use of and derive benefit from (a resource)

That is the intent to which the word was used. And if someone can seriously say that FOD's account does not make use of and derive benefit from those twins, then fine report the comment, but that is exactly what is going on?

I know the dictionary definition of Exploitation, I'm just saying it should be used judiciously.