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To not like a teacher at DS's school?

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mumpoints · 01/01/2018 20:50

Do you all like the teachers at your children's schools? There is this one women (not DS's teacher but involved with his class occasionally) whom I really dislike. She's harsh with the children, has completely different views to myself re speaking to little ones (Year 2 and under) and asks personal questions as if she has a right to know (she asked my age once!)

If it wasn't for the fact she is leaving (hurrah!) I would be very worried as DS would have been going up to her class this year.

Does this happen a lot or is this unusual? I normally get on with most people. I wonder whether I'm being a little overprotective because young children, especially DS, are involved.

OP posts:
frasier · 03/01/2018 16:09

What I meant by "Maisypops, why are you like this" is why you have hounded the OP, who very classily ducked out of her thread, without retaliation towards you, after you had implied she was a "bitch" at least SIX TIMES, and even then you still continued to call her a bitch again and again and then again! You worked yourself up into a frenzy, making things up, to try and punish a stranger who has probably not given this thread another thought since she thanked everyone for their advice.

You manner says a lot about you, not the OP.

YOU are that teacher that people don't like!

BoneyBackJefferson · 03/01/2018 17:15

frasier

YOU are that teacher that people don't like!

How would you know what MaisyPops is like as a teacher?

frasier · 03/01/2018 17:24

BoneyBackJefferson

Exactly my point Smile

youarenotkiddingme · 03/01/2018 17:29

You're not going to like everyone who crosses your path - some of those people will be teachers!

I've come across it from 2 angles. Sometimes where I've seen them in school and seen the way they are and I've taken a dislike (even though Tbf they haven't done anything to ds or I to warrant my feelings!) and sometimes I've tried to work with staff who during that time have been so incredibly difficult I've taken to a dislike to them.

But I'm also sure there are many teachers of DS' who've I've really liked who possibly didn't reciprocate those feelings but were professionally nice to me!

MaisyPops · 03/01/2018 17:32

fraiser
You think this because I've repeatedly pointed out that anyone taking the time to speculate that someone is leaving their job because they were about to be sacked is involved in nasty bitchiness?

Because I've drawn a very clear distinction between professional concerns needing to be raised professionally and nasty speculation like 'i don't like them but i bet they were about to be sacked' is nasty and has no place in any work environment?

Because I've pointed out the consequences of people choosing to stir crap about other people's careers?

YOU are that teacher that people don't like!
Far from it. I am a well liked and well respected teacher. I care about the kids I teach and have great relationships with parents. Children in my class are happy and thrive and i spend huge amounts of time supporting parents get the help their children need in what is at times a really shit system. I also back parents and have difficult conversations with staff when it becomes clear that a teacher has got it wrong.

What I have absolutely zero time for is:

  • parents who think rules apply to every child but theirs
  • parents who abusive and intimidating to staff
  • parents who get involved in bitchy gossip and stir trouble up, target staff, etc.

Those type of people tend to have an issue with me, but that's ok because those types of people quickly gain reputations with staff, SLT tend to get involved and they are the ones who show themselves up at open evenings and the other parents give them the most pitying, judgemental looks because they know (and I know) that those type of people will be nasty and obnoxious in other areas of life too.

frasier · 03/01/2018 17:35

LOL!

(tl;dr)

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/01/2018 17:42

YOU are that teacher that people don't like!

You know nothing about them, just like you know nothing about the OP.

Nothing like jumping to conclusions is there.....

Making assjmptions about why a teacher is leaving, when you in truth havecabsoluyely no idea, usually ends up with the gossipers having egg on their faces.

MaisyPops · 03/01/2018 17:42

Ok now you really are just a GF.

So let me make it verrrrry simple.

  1. Professional concerns should be rasied appropriately. Teachers can and do get it wrong sometimes.
  2. Disliking people is fine
  3. Taking such a dislike to someone that you speculate about being on the brink if being fired is nasty and bitchy (if you can't see that then that's your issue, not mine)
  4. I get annoyed because I care and have seen too many careers ruined, too many people leave jobs, too many children's education be disrupted because of nasty, bitchy, targeting. Other posters have also mentioned this.
  5. I'm a good teacher and when needed I back parents over teachers and will have tough conversations if it means the children get what they need.
  6. I don't put up with shit from people who want to stir up trouble and target me or any member of staff.

If you think that makes me bad teacher, great.

I hope your child never has the disruption I've seen happen to classes when such nastienss has meant having a string of qualfied supply teachers.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/01/2018 17:44

*have absolutely

MaisyPops · 03/01/2018 17:45

Making assjmptions about why a teacher is leaving, when you in truth havecabsoluyely no idea, usually ends up with the gossipers having egg on their faces
Or at the very least becoming well known for being the type of person who shit stirs.

If frasier genuinely believes it's wrong to class speculating that someone was about to be sacked as bitching and they can't possibly see why it's a problem then there's zero hope for them.

frasier · 03/01/2018 17:46

PigletWasPoohsFriend Precisely Smile

MaisyPops · 03/01/2018 17:46

*string of UNqualfied supply teachers.

MiaowTheCat · 03/01/2018 18:00

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NovemberWitch · 03/01/2018 18:14

Me too, Miaow.

MaisyPops · 03/01/2018 18:15

MiaowTheCat
I know there are some awesome supply teachers who are experienced and qualified. Grin

Just that when schools I've worked in have needed last minute 'crap teacher has just resigned and we need someone' all the great supply staff tend to end up booked for long term and/or because of a shortage in some subjects the schools have hired non-specialist cover supervisors to have the groups

E.g. One geography group had a law graduate without a GCSE in geography
Another English class had a performing arts person doing GCSE.

SheKnows · 03/01/2018 18:16

And me, Miaow.

MaisyPops · 03/01/2018 18:19

Some days I don't blame people for going supply over staying in one school.

Good qualified specialists get snapped up quickly in my area.

SheKnows · 03/01/2018 18:36

Full time work and my evenings and weekends back. What's not to like!

NovemberWitch · 03/01/2018 18:40

Lack of politics too. The navel-gazing and nit-picking of slt.
Like being a swallow returning to the same little patch and hearing all the sparrows gossiping and fussing over minutia, and thinking ‘Next week, I’ll be in Africa’

RoseWhiteTips · 03/01/2018 18:44

MaisyPops

YOU are that teacher that people don't like!
Far from it. I am a well liked and well respected teacher. I care about the kids I teach and have great relationships with parents. Children in my class are happy and thrive and i spend huge amounts of time supporting parents get the help their children need in...

Your class - as in singular class. I take it you are just a Primary teacher?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/01/2018 18:45

I take it you are just a Primary teacher?

just how patronising can you bloody get.

Some if the best teachers I know are primary school teachers

Sparklingbrook · 03/01/2018 18:48

Blimey, this thread. Shock

RoseWhiteTips · 03/01/2018 18:50

MaisyPops

YOU are that teacher that people don't like!
Far from it. I am a well liked and well respected teacher. I care about the kids I teach and have great relationships with parents. Children in my class are happy and thrive and i spend huge amounts of time supporting parents get the help their children need in...

Your class - as in singular class. I take it you are just a Primary teacher?

frasier · 03/01/2018 18:50

Don’t say that Sparklingbrook, it’s an excuse for maisy to come and call the OP a bitch again, for starting it!

(Or me a girlfriend or grandfather, whatever GF means)

RoseWhiteTips · 03/01/2018 18:56

GF is a rude abbreviation. There are a number of those on Mumsnet.