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Smoking weed is......

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LockJawTrouble · 29/12/2017 22:17

Just trying to make sense of things. Is it me or smoking weed is not normal? I am fed up of this excuse to the point, where I think I need some reconfirmation , to make sure I am not the only one thinking that.

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RoseWhiteTips · 31/12/2017 11:16

...is asking for brain damage?
...is supremely dense?

e1y1 · 31/12/2017 11:36

@Indigo911

It’s a strange thing, Every one is, I people who do it but aren’t fussed for the smell, through to people who have never done it and adore the smell.

I haven’t got anything against anyone who chooses to use it (my siblings do), but geez my nose really just doesn’t care for the smell. so for that reason alone, I can’t do it.

e1y1 · 31/12/2017 11:37

*everyone is different

reddington · 31/12/2017 11:51

I’d either like to see weed legalised or tobacco and alcohol banned. The law as it stands is just crazy, how can things which kill tens of thousands each year remain legal?

CurryWorst · 31/12/2017 11:53

Purely anecdotal but in my job I see lots of young men with mood problems and paranoia and symptoms similar to bipolar disorder and there is a history of cannabis use in the vast majority

Yes. But you should not therefore assume that cannabis causes those symptoms. It is equally as likely that having those symptoms causes people to self medicate with cannabis.

CurryWorst · 31/12/2017 11:55

It isn't smuggled into the country. It is produced here in the UK by child slaves

Evidence please? I know for a fact that the type of marijuana I and everyone I know uses has absolutely no involvement with child slavery. Can you point to some evidence that any of it is?

Ta1kinPeace · 31/12/2017 13:49

Greenshoots
It is produced here in the UK by child slaves.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Link please.
You are making a bollocks assertion.
Either prove it or retract it.

I'm still waiting for the weed haters to confirm if they would be happy for their kids to get a job as a sales rep for BAT or Philip Morris ......

LoniceraJaponica · 31/12/2017 16:03

I recently watched a factual programme about Northumbria Police. They were raiding cannabis farms, and they were all being looked after by people trafficked over from Vietnam and other Asian countries. The owners of the farms couldn't be traced because they had set it up so that the poor trafficked people could be prosecuted and sent back home, but there was no way of finding out who owned them.

I don't feel comfortable about supporting this kind of enterprise. I don't have a problem with it being legalised and strictly controlled, but the fact remains that it is illegal and by supporting an illegal industry you are supporting all sorts of other nefarious and illegal activities.

I have never bought dodgy CDs/DVDs from someone at the pub or stolen from hotels either.

Greenshoots1 · 31/12/2017 16:08

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

is not remotely extraordinary claim, its common knowledge. As a foster carer I have first hand experience with freed child slaves placed in my care over-night having been found by the police working cannabis farms in London. Most of the ones I have met/ heard of through other foster carers are young Vietnamese boys, approx age 12 being the oldest I've cared for myself.

Greenshoots1 · 31/12/2017 16:14

I know for a fact that the type of marijuana I and everyone I know uses has absolutely no involvement with child slavery.

how do you know that? Unless you are running the cannabis farm yourself, it is highly likely that any cannabis of uk origin you have bought from a dealer was grown by slaves.

GnomeDePlume · 31/12/2017 16:31

Greenshoots1 that chimes in with what I read in the articles I linked to.

It kind of makes sense (if you have no scruples). Growing commercial quantities of weed is labour intensive and the working conditions unpleasant. So much easier to get someone else to do it especially if you want to maintain a degree of separation from your farm. Lock your slaves in, phone regularly to check on their work. Remind them that their family back home will suffer if the work isnt to a good standard. Every few weeks deliver some food. In a few months so long as your farm hasn't been discovered by the authorities, suffered an electrical fire or your gardeners haven't electrocuted themselves because of all the dodgy wiring the harvest can be taken

CurryWorst · 31/12/2017 16:34

how do you know that? Unless you are running the cannabis farm yourself, it is highly likely that any cannabis of uk origin you have bought from a dealer was grown by slaves

I know the farm, and the farmer, and there are definitely no slaves. And really "highly likely"? I dispute that entirely.

CurryWorst · 31/12/2017 16:34

how do you know that? Unless you are running the cannabis farm yourself, it is highly likely that any cannabis of uk origin you have bought from a dealer was grown by slaves

I know the farm, and the farmer, and there are definitely no slaves. And really "highly likely"? I dispute that entirely.

Greenshoots1 · 31/12/2017 16:54

CurryWorst - so you are closely involved and knowledgeable about an industry that relies on slavery, but claim to be unaware that it relies on slavery. I find that hard to believe. either you know nothing about it, or you are trying to cover it up

QuiQuaiQuod · 31/12/2017 16:55

ILLEGAL! ILLEGAL! ILLEGAL! WHY does no one know what that word means?

especially police/government?

My Ndns do it and me and dc have to smell the muck. not bloody right.

seriouslystumped · 31/12/2017 16:56

I know a lot of people that smoke it and although I've only had it once or twice, I didn't see any problem with it. In recent years 3 people I know have had psychotic episodes triggered by long term cannabis use, have been sectioned and are now on long term anti psychotic medication. I witnessed one of these episodes first hand and it was devastating to the person and family members. The stuff that people smoke nowadays is so manufactured and potent it's dangerous.

ConciseandNice · 31/12/2017 16:58

I lost my son to drugs and he started with weed, he was stoned for years, just weed. Normal or not, I’ve gone from tolerant liberal to zero tolerance. Can’t help it.

CoteDAzur · 31/12/2017 16:59

"Child slaves" Grin

Even if it were true (it's not) that would be the fault of criminalisation keeping this business underground.

OP - It doesn't bother me more than cigarettes & alcohol: Occasional/moderate use is not a problem. Dependence is not good.

CurryWorst · 31/12/2017 17:00

CurryWorst - so you are closely involved and knowledgeable about an industry that relies on slavery, but claim to be unaware that it relies on slavery. I find that hard to believe. either you know nothing about it, or you are trying to cover it up

Closely involved? Not in the slightest. I buy a small bit of organic weed now and again from a friend who grows it on a fairly small scale. I'm involved with that particular farm ( my family has allotments on it to grow our vegetables and a horse there as well) but not with any part of the industry.

What an odd leap for you to make.

Ta1kinPeace · 31/12/2017 17:01

QuiQuai
Cannabis is illegal.
Tobacco is legal
A total fluke of legislative history : nothing more.

CurryWorst · 31/12/2017 17:02

ILLEGAL! ILLEGAL! ILLEGAL! WHY does no one know what that word means

We do know what it means, but people with an evolved sense of ethics choose their own rights and wrongs, we don't blindly follow all laws just because they are laws.

Greenshoots1 · 31/12/2017 17:03

glad you find child trafficking and slavery amusing CoteDazur

its 100% true, sorry if you don't like the truth, but there you are.

No, legalising it would change nothing,

"legal" cannabis, with PAID workers, with national insurance, and pensions and everything... the cost would be 10x as much, even before the government slapped the tax on...

the illegal market would just carry on regardless, no difference other than being harder to control and easier to hide.

DeleteOrDecay · 31/12/2017 17:05

"legal" cannabis, with PAID workers, with national insurance, and pensions and everything... the cost would be 10x as much, even before the government slapped the tax on...

Well it seems to be working quite well in countries where it has been legalised.

CoteDAzur · 31/12/2017 17:05

"ILLEGAL! ILLEGAL! ILLEGAL! WHY does no one know what that word means?"

People do know what the word means. They just don't blindly obey every fucking thing the state says. Especially re what they can and can't put into their own bodies. Not what they can't do to other people. Just what they can't do to their own bodies.

That sort of law doesn't always get a lit of respect. See the Prohibition, illegal abortions in Ireland, or when sodomy was illegal.

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