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Trump 2018: Resistance is Never Futile

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lionheart · 29/12/2017 18:34

To pick up on the Star Trek motif.

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annandale · 30/12/2017 19:22

I'm also not sure what an annual physical would cover - after all, a GP might suspect neurological deficit but would get a specialist to diagnose. There could be a 'blood pressure on the high side of normal, bmi 29, bloods within normal limits, ecg normal, nil active infection' kind of medical without any detailed analysis of his language output, gait etc.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/12/2017 20:13

But he was just the covfefe boy Shock

Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
1/ The most important revelation in today’s @nytimes article is that emails show that Papadopoulos continued to pursue arranging a meeting with Russia, despite Jeff Sessions’ recent statements that he told Papadopoulos not to do so.
2/ The Trump team will likely point to other instances where Papadopoulos acted without authorization, such as his comments to The Times of London, discussed later in the @nytimes piece. But there is a difference between disobeying orders and merely acting without them.
3/ Overall, the picture painted by the @nytimes suggests that it will be hard for the Trump team to continue to portray Papadopoulos as a low-level volunteer who had limited access. But given that he’s on Mueller’s team, they will continue to do so. /end

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Benjamin Wittes
@benjaminwittes
Sourcing note: This phraseology is careful and strongly indicates that Papadoupolos’s lawyers provided information on background.

In response to questions, Mr. Papadopoulos’s lawyers declined to provide a statement.

[because it implies they’ve provided comments, but not an official statement]

CornwallLass · 30/12/2017 20:26

For Christmas I was given Collusion, by Luke Harding - my family indulge my Trump obsession! I thoroughly recommend it - it takes different themes from the past few decades and puts them into context alongside recent events. At times I forgot where I was and thought I was reading a rather far-fetched spy thriller, but I really feel that I have a clearer grasp of the long-term significance of recent events. Possibly the biggest shock was when he listed the people 45 has surrounded himself with and listed their various ties to Russia. It's clearly about more than just 45. Well worth a read.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/12/2017 20:35

Trump continuing to pursue his hateful agenda

Andy Slavitt
@ASlavitt
Trump is making it clear that he knows he inflicted damage on the ACA, and on people, as a political strategy.

And

Dan Lamothe
@DanLamothe
Mattis today: "I’m never okay with any civilian casualty. Don’t screw with me on this.”

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/12/29/mattis-defends-u-s-efforts-to-prevent-civilian-casualties-in-yemen/#click=t.co/TOWSEAIyge" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/12/29/mattis-defends-u-s-efforts-to-prevent-civilian-casualties-in-yemen/#click=t.co/TOWSEAIyge

Adam Khan
@Khanoisseur
Mattis is actually okay with Saudis’ aggressive bombing, which US media has a blackout on covering; lack of public outrage shields Trump admin and the Saudis.

Trump dropped 42,287 bombs this year, an average of 116 per day - Yemen is now the world’s worst humanitarian crisis.

And

Trump Justice Department Pushes for Citizenship Question on Census, Alarming Experts

“This is a recipe for sabotaging the census,” said one. The administration’s stated reason for the controversial move: protecting civil rights.

www.propublica.org/article/trump-justice-department-pushes-for-citizenship-question-on-census-alarming-experts

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Trump: Give Me a Border Wall or I’ll Deport the Dreamers

amp.nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/trump-give-me-a-border-wall-or-ill-deport-the-dreamers.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Medicaid is GOP target in 2018

thehill.com/policy/healthcare/366728-gop-could-push-medicaid-cuts-in-2018?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Senate GOP seeks to change rules for Trump picks

thehill.com/homenews/senate/366260-senate-gop-seeks-to-change-rules-for-trump-picks?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Republicans are mulling changing the Senate's rules to speed up consideration of President Trump's nominees.

GOP senators want to cut down the amount of debate time needed to confirm hundreds of the president's picks, arguing Democrats are using the Senate's rulebook to stonewall and slow-walk nominees and the GOP agenda.

Republicans have been privately discussing the potential changes for months, but support for the move appears to be growing amid mounting frustration about the pace of nomination votes.

"It merely shortens what is currently an unreasonably long process," said Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the chairman of the Senate Rules Committee.

And

Corey Ciorciari
@CoreyCiorciari
BREAKING: Interior Sec. Zinke used $39,295 in federal wild fire response funding to take a private helicopter charter flight during the worst year for wild fires in recorded history.

www.newsweek.com/ryan-zinke-interior-department-helicopters-wildfires-757857?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

And

Trump Stretches Meaning of Deregulation in Touting Achievements

www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-12-29/trump-stretches-meaning-of-deregulation-in-touting-achievements?__twitter_impression=true

Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Excellent journalism here: Bloomberg finds Trump is taking credit for "killing" more than 100 regulations that were already dead under Obama, and counting Obama acts as his own deregulation achievement after making tiny tweaks

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/12/2017 21:28

Amy Siskind weekly update:

m.facebook.com/amy.siskind/posts/10214840882280739

cozietoesie · 30/12/2017 21:35

Thanks, Pain. Smile

cozietoesie · 30/12/2017 22:32

That is one woman that truly deserves a bottle of Gin all to herself. And RIGHT NOW let alone when all of this is over.

blueskyinmarch · 30/12/2017 22:35

Thank you for the new thread.

cozietoesie · 30/12/2017 22:37

Interesting - even given the ratings increase (Smile) - that he should be being allowed to continue........

The year Shepard Smith went rogue at Fox News

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lionheart · 30/12/2017 22:47

Back to the wall, so to speak.

[[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-daca-border-wall-tweet-latest-update-post-immigration-election-a8134556.html]

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/12/2017 23:29

What a twat

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/12/2017 23:30

Attaching the photo would help Blush

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AcrossthePond55 · 31/12/2017 00:13

Oh for God's sake!

cozietoesie · 31/12/2017 00:33

He resigned didn't he? Rather tersely if I recall..........Smile

lionheart · 31/12/2017 00:50

He's in it up to his neck.

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lionheart · 31/12/2017 01:06

Seth Abramson‏Verified account
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(THREAD) BREAKING: The NYT has published a bombshell report on George Papadopoulos—the biggest Trump-Russia news since Flynn's plea. This thread dissects the new revelations—as well as some major implications for the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. I hope you'll read and share.

1/ First, here's the article. The NYT foregrounds the story's significance as a rebuttal of Trump's claims the Russia investigation began with the Steele Dossier. But in fact, anyone who knows criminal investigations knew long ago Trump's claim was untrue.

2/ As has been discussed by @AshaRangappa_, the Steele Dossier alone would never have been enough to earn the FBI the July 2016 FISA warrant it was granted to monitor Carter Page. So attorneys and those in intelligence long ago knew the Dossier didn't launch the probe by itself.

3/ The NYT story gives us—it appears—an additional piece of the warrant application the FBI filed to get a FISA warrant in July '16. But again, this is merely a piece—as was the Dossier. We know multiple intelligence agencies, not just Australia's, provided the FBI with evidence.

4/ So Trump's claim that the FBI grabbed a dossier of raw intelligence it hadn't yet confirmed and ran to the FISA court to secure a warrant to wiretap Americans connected to the Trump campaign has been laughably false from Day 1. And media has not done enough to underscore that.

5/ What we learn from the NYT (though again it's not—contrary to what the NYT seems to believe from its headline—what makes today's breaking news significant) is that the Australians informed U.S. law enforcement in July 2016 that Papadopoulos had made covert contact with Russia.

6/ In fact, while today's NYT story is indeed this month's second-biggest Trump-Russia revelation—after the December 1 guilty plea by Mike Flynn—what makes it significant isn't that it rebuts Trump's false claims but that it may have sealed the Trump-Russia collusion narrative.

7/ If the NYT understood this, it would've led with it. But one must know the prior reporting on Papadopoulos to understand why today's news constitutes one of the biggest revelations in the 18-monthy history of the Trump-Russia probe. So I'll briefly summarize what we know.

8/ On September 22—40 days before we learned Papadopoulos was cooperating with the Mueller probe—I said that he had directly identified himself to Trump as a Kremlin agent in March 2016. This led to major-media coverage of the now-infamous "TIHDC meeting."Seth Abramson added,

9/ It hadn't previously been discussed that Papadopoulos was at the first meeting of Trump's national security (NatSec) team at the Trump International Hotel in DC (TIHDC) on March 31, 2016. But he was there—a week after revealing himself as a Kremlin agent to the NatSec team.

10/ So when (per the NYT) Papadopoulos revealed in May '16 to an Australian diplomat that he knew Russia had committed major federal crimes against the U.S.—via computer theft and fraud—it was two months after he told Trump's NatSec team and Trump he was in contact with Russia.

11/ The nature of the contact that Papadopoulos revealed in March 2016 to Trump and his team was that he was a legal agent—in the law we'd say "special agent"—of the Kremlin. He was authorized to represent the Kremlin's interests in setting up a clandestine Trump-Putin meeting.

12/ That authority came to Papadopoulos—from Kremlin officials—through another Kremlin agent, Joseph Mifsud. This is why Papadopoulos, per public reporting by WP, identified himself to Trump on March 31, 2017 as a Kremlin "intermediary" designated not by Trump but by the Kremlin.

13/ As has been exhaustively detailed by WaPo (WP), Trump's NatSec team spent two months—from March to May of 2016—discussing how to handle Papadopoulos' "offer" of acting as an intermediary between Trump and Putin. They did not dismiss the offer in March, whatever some say.

14/ It was in the middle of this deliberation by the NatSec team that Papadopoulos, in April 2016, was told the Kremlin had committed federal computer crimes by stealing emails from a presidential candidate. Papadopoulos knew his team was then deliberating a Trump-Putin meet.

15/ During this period, Papadopoulos was personally hounding top Trump officials—per the WP—to give him more authority and allow him to travel abroad to arrange a Trump-Putin meeting. His April intelligence on the Clinton emails was without a doubt a card he would've played.

16/ So while Australian law enforcement knew of the stolen Clinton emails in May 2016, and the FBI knew by July 2016 (via Australia), it's a lock that Papadopoulos gave this intel to Trump and his campaign—from whom he wanted present authority and a future job—in April 2016.

17/ So when Trump said, in July 2016, "Russia, if you're listening..." let's be clear—he a) knew they were listening, b) knew they'd stolen the emails he was urging them to release, and c)—this is key—had already promised, via Papadopoulos, to reward them for being good to him.

18/ This is the first real bombshell from the NYT: we now know Papadopoulos helped write the April 27, 2016 speech in which Trump promised Russia a "good deal" if they'd be his "friend," and that Trump knew Papadopoulos would transmit to Russia that that speech was a message.

19/ In March 2017, I was the first to argue that Trump's Mayflower Speech was the orchestrated beginning of a negotiation with the Russians—a negotiation about unilaterally dropping Russian sanctions. That thread essentially launched this feed (see link).

20/ The NYT has just confirmed the crux of that March 2017 thread: that Trump had—by April 27, 2016—established sufficient means to send a message to Russia that the careful placement of Kislyak at the event (violating diplomatic protocol) signaled the beginning of a negotiation.

21/ Per the NYT, Papadopoulos was that means. Papadopoulos told Trump he was a Kremlin agent; Trump put Papadopoulos on his campaign's Russia beat (not Papadopoulos' specialization); he let him help with the Mayflower Speech; he knew Papadopoulos would communicate that to Russia.

22/ Per the NYT, Papadopoulos working on the Mayflower Speech was a signal to Russia negotiations had begun. So: Papadopoulos tells Russia he's helping with Trump's foreign policy; Russia tells him of the emails; Papadopoulos tells the campaign; Trump offers Russia a "good deal."

23/ All of this happens in April 2016, which is why Papadopoulos was feeling pretty damn good about himself in May 2016 when he let slip about the emails to an Australian diplomat.

It also explains why Trump was so frustrated when the Kremlin didn't give Don the emails in June.

24/ Don was excited to meet Kremlin agents in June 2016 to get Clinton "dirt" because Papadopoulos told the campaign in April Russia had that dirt. When Veselnitskaya left only a slim file with Don, the campaign was dissatisfied. They thought Russia would then release the emails.

25/ That didn't happen—other hacked info was released instead—which is why Trump made the appeal himself, on TV, in July 2016.

He'd already promised Russia a "good deal" on sanctions if they'd be a "friend"—he said he'd "reward" friends—but he felt they hadn't delivered enough.

26/ I've been arguing on this feed for over six months now that Trump-Russia collusion is already known: Trump negotiated sanctions relief for Russia in exchange for continued assistance with leaks—which constitutes Aiding and Abetting Computer Crimes.

27/ In October, I made this case in even greater detail.

28/ There is much, much more to say here about the NYT story and everything we know about Papadopoulos that makes this NYT story much bigger than the NYT thinks. But I have to take a break for a couple hours for an important event.

I will return immediately after with more.

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PerkingFaintly · 31/12/2017 01:31

Heroic mass posting going on at the moment! Gin for hardworking people!

lionheart · 31/12/2017 02:08

29/ Correction on Tweet #12: it should read March 31, 2016.

Next topic up in this thread: whether Papadopoulos interfaced directly with Trump (spoiler: he did, multiple times), and what level of authority he was given. The NYT story contains major breaking news on both fronts.

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lionheart · 31/12/2017 02:22

The horse has bolted, but still.

gizmodo.com/senators-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-secure-election-s-1821501882

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