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Trump 2018: Resistance is Never Futile

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lionheart · 29/12/2017 18:34

To pick up on the Star Trek motif.

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Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 10:51

Ooh The Independent is sharing excerpts from it today, here's a good bit!

Into election day. And we start with a reminder that nobody actually thought Trump would win: his close adviser Kellyanne Conway, for instance, is reported to have spent all day ringing around the many TV producers she'd befriended selling herself and casting off blame for the inevitable defeat she was about to suffer. She blamed the Republican party, first, then moved on:
The other part was that despite everything, the campaign had really clawed its way back from the abyss. A severely underresourced team with, practically speaking, the worst candidate in modern political history – Conway offered either an eye-rolling pantomime whenever Trump's name was mentioned, or a dead stare
The agreement wasn't just that Trump wouldn't win but that he shouldn't win, writes Wolff. "Conveniently, the former conviction meant nobody had to deal with the latter issue".

Even Trump wasn't clear about the fact that he actually wanted to be president, according to the book. He was already looking forward to his plans for a Trump TV network and other ventures. And he was getting ready to claim that the election had been stolen from him, and that's why he would lose.

Trump believed that everyone around him was an idiot and that his own campaign was "crappy". He also thought that the Clinton campaign had all the "best" people, Wolff claims.

Indeed, the only person who believed Trump would win was Steve Bannon. But since people thought he was "crazy Steve", that did the opposite of reassuring them, says Wolff.

Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 11:04

Unbelievable!

Latest updates

10:52 GMT
The picture the book paints of Trump Tower on election night is a fairly desperate and depressing one – but only when it became clear that Trump was going to win. The whole campaign was set up so that it would win by losing: they would avoid the potentially dangerous glare of the press that would come with a victory, and all of the big people in the movement had already set up their new jobs for afterwards. Trump, for instance, would be able to become the figurehead of a movement that would see him as the martyr of the crooked Clinton campaign.

When it became clear he was going to win, however, everything changed. Donald Jr looked "as if he had seen a ghost"; Melania "was in tears – and not of joy"; and Trump went from "befuddled" to "disbelieving" to "quite horrified", all in the space of an hour. And then he underwent the most dramatic change of all: into a "a man who believed that he deserved to be and was wholly capable of being the president of the United States".

OhYouBadBadKitten · 05/01/2018 11:09

I've preordered a copy just to do my own little bit to piss Trump off.

TuckFrump · 05/01/2018 11:18

There's a lot of discussion on Twitter that this is an elaborate ploy for Trump to say he's too ill to stand trial if/when any charges come from the Russia investigation.

I'm sure there are less humiliating ways to make that happen.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/01/2018 11:21

It sounds a bit "deep state-y" and far too elaborate for them to have pulled off!

badbadhusky · 05/01/2018 11:23

That Indy link - there goes my morning!

Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 11:37

I know I shouldn't revel in schadenfreude ( is that the right word), but today is such a joyous day! Smile

Lweji · 05/01/2018 11:41

Indeed, the only person who believed Trump would win was Steve Bannon. But since people thought he was "crazy Steve", that did the opposite of reassuring them, says Wolff.

Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 12:03

Ah the mystery of Claig! Who or what was he/she/it? So bizarre...

Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 12:04

Apparently the book is also available on Kindle if any of you want to get it.

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/01/2018 12:08

I liked Claig. She had some ... interesting opinions but she used to go on lots of non-political threads back in the day. I really don't think she was any sort of bot.

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/01/2018 12:10

This rather splendid homeopathy thread from 2013, for instance

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1775024-to-think-homeopaths-really-just-make-money-out-of-the-gullible

Lweji · 05/01/2018 12:22

I really don't think she was any sort of bot.

Committed bots or trolls always post on some innocuous threads to appear genuine. Wake up.

Lweji · 05/01/2018 12:24

BTW, I think they were a mixture of pps or partly bot and partly human. Their latest posts in 2016 were odd and mixed.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/01/2018 12:33

North Korea agrees to talks after U.S., South Korea postpone military drills

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1EU06O?__twitter_impression=true

Natsku · 05/01/2018 12:37

I miss Claig too.

Trump & Bannon have turned on each other BIGLY. It’s impossible to pick a side. It’s as if Cancer & Ebola got into a fight

This tickled me!

BiglyBadgers · 05/01/2018 12:48

Maybe we should have a Claig memorial thread. GrinWink

Lweji · 05/01/2018 12:50

Yes, it was at about this time last year (about 1000 000 threads ago) that they and all the rest of the Trump trolls disappeared.

Still, he/she/it started off the Trump threads. For that I am thankful. Wine

GingerIvy · 05/01/2018 12:51

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THREAD (4 tweets): 18 U.S.C. § 208 makes it a crime for a federal employee to participate in a particular matter in which he/she has a financial interest. An investigation is a particular matter. A subject of an investigation has a financial interest in the investigation. /1

The subjects of any investigation of the Trump campaign’s communications with Russian officials potentially include any member of the campaign who communicated with Russian officials in 2016. /2

Jeff Sessions was a member of the Trump campaign. He communicated with Russian officials in 2016. He did not reveal this in his Congressional testimony. Thus, Session was a potential subject of any such investigation and, at a minimum, could certainly expect to be a witness. /3

Therefore, Jeff Sessions’ recusal was mandatory. Pressuring him to participate as a government employee in the investigation amounts to pressuring him to commit a crime. /4

Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 12:51

More bonkers stuff from the book:

an hour ago
Another useful reminder, not of new information but of a story that it's easy to forget. Remember when, in his first act after becoming president, Trump headed to the CIA to try and make friends with them but ended up throwing away his prepared remarks and talking about his intellect? Wolff quotes the remarks, referring to them as "some of the most peculiar remarks ever delivered by an American president":

I know a lot about West Point, I'm a person who very strongly believes in academics. Every time I say I had an uncle who was a great professor at MIT for 35 years, who did a fantastic job in so many ways academically – he was an academic genius – and then they say, Is Donald Trump an intellectual? Trust me, I'm like a smart person.
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You know when I was young. Of course I feel young – I feel like I was 30... 35... 39... Somebody said, Are you young? I said, I think I'm young. I was stopping in the final months of the campaign, four stops, five stops, seven stops – speeches, speeches in front of twenty-five, thirty thousand people... fifteen, nineteen thousand. I feel young – I think we're all so young. When I was young we were always winning things in this country. We'd win with trade, we'd win with wars – at a certain age I remembering hearing from one of my instructors, the United States has never lost a war. And then, after that, it's like we haven't won anything. You know the old expression, to the victor belongs the spoils. You remember I always say, keep the oil.

"Who should keep the oil?", Wolff reports a bewildered CIA employee saying at the back of the room.

GingerIvy · 05/01/2018 12:52

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There it is: Pakistani foreign minister declares end of alliance with the U.S. www.wsj.com/articles/pakistan-says-alliance-with-u-s-is-over-1515155860 … via @WSJ

GingerIvy · 05/01/2018 12:56

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On non-disclosure agreement referenced by @realDonaldTrump lawyer who issued a cease and desist letter to #Bannon, book publisher #HarryCole, @SHSanders45 says “there are some ethics agreements” but “can’t get into further than that” @ABC @ABCPolitics
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BoreOfWhabylon · 05/01/2018 13:10

@Lweji Claig posted for years (advanced search goes back to 2009) on a variety of threads. I agree the 2016 threads were increasingly weird and, uncharacteristically, Claig lost her rag on several occasions, which I don't recall happening before.

I did read somewhere that she'd been banned after flying off the handle.

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