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Veiled insult, faux pas or not a big deal?

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MissionItsPossible · 22/12/2017 11:21

Came across this article in the Mirror just now (Sorry, it's another Meghan one) where she says Prince Michael of Kent wore a 'racist' brooch when meeting her.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-greeted-racist-jewellery-11736477

General consensus from the comments suggest she knew exactly what she was doing. I don't know anything about her to know if it's suspect but it seems an odd thing to own let alone wear in public. What's the jury?

Also, is Michael an actual name for a woman, I've never heard of it before

OP posts:
Thesecondtoast · 22/12/2017 16:14

I hope she is practising her curtsey for May. If I was Harry I would turn up to every event she is invited to from May onwards just so that I could enjoy her discomfort at curtseying to Meghan.

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:16

She wouldn't be required to curtsey to Megan.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/12/2017 16:18

I'm pretty sure her father was a prominent Nazi.

She's an arrogant piece of trash.

EmpressoftheMundane · 22/12/2017 16:21

It's really rude. Hard to think it wasn't deliberate.

Anyway, does anyone notice much or care much about Princess Michael of Kent? The world press would stampede across her to get a pap of Meghan. Being young and beautiful has that effect.

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:23

He wasn't very prominent at all. In fact he was rather critical of them and got into trouble with them early on. After being retired from service on health grounds the gestapo investigated him as possible spy, he was deemed a traitor and dismissed from the party in 1944. Which is why he was released from American internment as a nominal member before Nuremburg.

Austentatious · 22/12/2017 16:26

curryworst - if Harry is in the same room as Megan at the time, Princess Michael has to curtsey to her (and so I think do EUgenie & Beatrice as Harry is higher up the line than them. Seem to recall Anne being v put out at having to curtsey to the daughter of an air hostess when William is in the room)

Willow2017 · 22/12/2017 16:29

She has always been a crass, selfish ignorant woman.

Nothing she does should surprise anyone.
Not called 'princess pushy ' for nothing. She would go to the opening of an envelope if there was a freebie to be had.
No idea how her husband has stayed with her so long she has been an embarrassment over and over again.

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:35

eem to recall Anne being v put out at having to curtsey to the daughter of an air hostess when William is in the room)

No, Anne does not curtsey to Catherine, it doesn't matter if William is there. The updated Precedence Of The Royal Family To Be Observed At Court rules put Anne well above Catherine.

Eltonjohnssyrup · 22/12/2017 16:36

She wouldn't be required to curtsey to Megan.

Yes she will, The Royals all curtesy to the queen and then curtesy to each other in order of precedence. Meghan will have to curtesy to the Queen, Camilla, Kate and Charlotte at formal occasions. But Beatrice, Eugenie, Princess Anne, Sophie et al will have to curtesy to Megan.

Actually Princess Anne sent a letter to Diana when she was stripped of her HRH telling her she never expected her to curtesy to her.

Austentatious · 22/12/2017 16:41

the updated order of precedence simply means that girls in a family can take precedence over boys. Remaining in the Dark Ages however, the women take their husband's status when they're in the room with the husband so I am pretty sure it's as Eltonjohn above says (and it takes a queen to know a queen etc)

That letter from Anne is rather a nice thing for her to have done if true.

PuppyMonkey · 22/12/2017 16:41

I could google this but I frankly can't be arsed and you lot will know - why is her husband a Prince anyway? Not just a Duke or whatnot?

Mortagemoans · 22/12/2017 16:42

Absolutely deliberate I think. Can imagine the chat that went on when she went to select that particular piece out of the Gazillions of other pieces of jewellery she no doubt has. Malicious woman. Can imagine her cackling as she pinned it on her lapel and her 'what?' face if anyone dared challenge her 'but it's just a favourite of mine' followed by an innocent simper. Not surprised though and can imagine there are many racist conversations going on over the port in the parlours and member's clubs of the British establishment.

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:43

No Elton, you have the orders all wrong, they all changed in 2005 when Camilla married Charles. For example Anne doesn't have to curtsey to anyone but her mother.

DarthMaiden · 22/12/2017 16:44

She's reportedly an extremely arrogant woman who feels she's "more royal" than other members of the "firm", despite her reasonably tenuous claims based on being European aristocracy.

She was born Baroness Marie Christine von Reibnitz and is of Hungarian/German decent.

She and her husband lived for years (decades) in a 5 bedroom apartment in Kensington Palace responsible only for utility bills. When this came to light they were forced by parliament to start paying rent of £120k - something they allegedly fought very hard against and felt was inappropriate.

She has been at the centre of a number of controversies over the years like the one below:

"In May 2004 she was in the news when a group of black diners in a New York restaurant reported that the Princess had told them to "get back to the colonies" when complaining about their noise – an accusation she denied – though it made global headlines. She recounted as having made a remark to one of her fellow dinner guests that "she would be glad to go back to the colonies in order to escape her noisy neighbours". She then labelled her accusers as a "bunch of rappers",[23] somewhat wide of the mark, since the party comprised an investment banker, a music executive, a reporter, a television fashion correspondent, and a lawyer.[23]"

She's known for "freeloading" hence the nick name Princess Pushy.

I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but I find it extremely hard to believe that she did not choose that item of jewellery deliberately.

I'm also shocked that she is still "in the royal circle" given her various actions over the years.

I think (hope) when the younger royals become more prominent there will be a carving out of all these minor royals such as her.

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:45

I could google this but I frankly can't be arsed and you lot will know - why is her husband a Prince anyway? Not just a Duke or whatnot?

He was the third child of Prince George, Duke of Kent, who was a younger brother of King George VI. The son of a Prince is a Prince. He is also a Duke.

Tipsntoes · 22/12/2017 16:45

I was wondering that Puppy, the older brother is a Duke, but the younger a Prince?

HintBean · 22/12/2017 16:46

Disgusting.

Weedsnseeds1 · 22/12/2017 16:46

Prince Michael is a prince because his father was a prince. His mother was a princess in her own right I think.

Mystripeywellies · 22/12/2017 16:47

That's truly fucked up. What a weird 'princess'. I hope the Queen gives her a b***ing.

ElephantsandTigers · 22/12/2017 16:48

Haven't finished reading all the thread so apologies I forgot already said, I've read that Princess Michael acts more royal than the actual royals. Why she has to be so rude and bitter when she has such privilege I don't know.

Weedsnseeds1 · 22/12/2017 16:49

It's the same as William being a prince but also Duke of Cambridge and Charles a prince but Duke of Cornwall.
The dukedoms are bestowed titles and the prince inherited. So the Duke of Kent is also a prince

DarthMaiden · 22/12/2017 16:49

Current order of precedence:

By (the Queen's) Order-in-Council, the Duke of Edinburgh has "place, pre-eminence and precedence" over all men in the United Kingdom—except, where provided by Parliament, Charles, Prince of Wales.

In 2005, Elizabeth II changed the order of precedence for private occasions, putting Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, fourth in the order of precedence, after herself, Anne, Princess Royal, and Princess Alexandra, contrary to the usual position of the heir's consort. Charles' first wife, Diana, Princess of Wales, had ranked above the Princess Royal and Princess Alexandra.[1]

The Duchess of Cornwall continues to rank second in the order of precedence at official occasions, such as state dinners.

Princesses of the blood Royal, such as Princess Beatrice of York and Princess Eugenie of York, also rank above Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, when the latter is not accompanied by her husband. When the Duchess of Cambridge is joined by the Duke, the roles are reversed with the Duchess outranking the Princesses.

The Court Circular also lists Prince William, Duke of Cambridge above his uncles, Prince Andrew, Duke of York and Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex.
There is no specific place in the order for a great-grandchild of the Sovereign (no matter how senior in the order of succession), however Prince George of Cambridge is entitled to precedence after all non-royal dukes as the eldest son of a Duke of the Blood Royal, pursuant to the unrevoked Lord Chamberlain's Order of 1520 as amended in 1595. (His sister, Princess Charlotte of Cambridge, has the equivalent position in the women's order.)[2]

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:50

I was wondering that Puppy, the older brother is a Duke, but the younger a Prince?
No his older brother was Prince Edward, and he is also the Duke of Kent.

CurryWorst · 22/12/2017 16:50

not was, IS.

Mystripeywellies · 22/12/2017 16:50

*She wouldn't be required to curtsey to Megan.

Yes she will*
Oh I hope so. that would be sweet.