Caked in makeup

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Why do some women plaster it on like there's no tomorrow, on the school run, everyday without fail. Not just subtle but full on caked in the stuff. AIBU to think why?

worra I am always up for blaming men!

I never had bad skin to be bullied about thankfully.
I just wear it, no reason other than I like it.

worra I am always up for blaming men!

Yes, a lot of women are but honestly, almost everything I read regarding criticism of other women's make-up choices, clothes, shoes, dress sense, fake tans etc, is from women.

The same women who would (quite rightly) go ape shit if they heard men talking the same way.

Much of it is aimed at female celebrities, because apparently being a celeb makes them fair game

But in a nutshell, it's still women putting pressure on other women to look a certain 'approved' way (whatever that is).

Italiangreyhound Sat 16-Dec-17 23:41:05
worra I am always up for blaming men!

I realise that this was a jokey comment but seriously - why?

But in a nutshell, it's still women putting pressure on other women to look a certain 'approved' way (whatever that is).

Just this really - 'approved' is relative - I grew up in a working class family in the 80's - blue eyeshadow and pink lipstick was the norm

I find it sad that a supposed 'woman' could try and berate another by bitching she's caked in anything.

tiddliewinkiewoo

"worra I am always up for blaming men!

I realise that this was a jokey comment but seriously - why?"

What made you think I was joking?

The reason women do many of the things they do in society is because of demands by men. Sorry to go off piste but for example female genital mutilation is committed' by women on girls but it is done because of male expectations on women. Likewise foot binding was done in China due to expectations (among well off or better off women) about who would marry their daughters (or rather which men would marry their daughters).

Expectations about female beauty appear to be controlled and pursued by females but actually many of the companies, designers and organisations that push and pursue images of female beauty (from designers to make up/beauty companies) are male.

So, personally, i am happy to wear make up sometimes, not wear it other times and I am happy for women to wear it or not as they like. But the reasons why many women feel they should look a certain way are influenced by a cultural perception about women's skin, women's looks etc. So I think it is justifiable to say that it is male expectations that drive the beauty industry to some extent.

Yes, of course to some extent it is also female expectations, but then as we are talking about women, would we not expect women's expectations to be a driving force?

I'm not sure wearing make up is a big issue, but boob jobs, crippling high heeled shoes, coursettes that almost make you faint, head binding that alters the shape of your head (from France many years ago) etc, those fashions were and to some extent still can be very hurtful to women. Why do we put ourselves through it? Maybe we need to ask these questions without making any woman feel bad for wearing as much make up as she wants to.

"almost everything I read regarding criticism of other women's make-up choices, clothes, shoes, dress sense, fake tans etc, is from women."

Really? Do you have many male friends who talk to you honestly about what they think of women? The men I know have definite opinion on what they like or don't though they aren't necessarily as interested in clothes as women are, might not know what something is called, etc.

However, I usually hear men say they prefer the natural look, which includes natural looking makeup, so if women are putting a lot of makeup on, it might be a misguided attempt to please men.

I sometimes wonder if men really know even what women look like without make up on. How often do we see women in any kind of media who are make up less?

I wonder if it is something men say, it makes them sound virtuous!

"Do people think 'made up' faces look better than natural faces?

I don't wear make up so know this must colour my opinion but I think people look a lot worse with it. It's such an odd idea in the first place, to do colouring in on your face."

I personally do think a bit of makeup helps most people. Beautiful people are better off with none and average people are better off with a natural look rather than a caked on look, in my opinion.
It's not really an 'odd' idea to enhance your face, it's been done for millennia. I like makeup that emphasises features e.g. foundation and concealer to hide different colouration like under-eye shadows, natural colour lipstick to enhance lips, mascara to make lashes appear longer.
I don't understand the new thing going on with eyebrows, really bright lipstick or orange foundation that's not blended in. But I accept that it's personal taste.

"I sometimes wonder if men really know even what women look like without make up on. How often do we see women in any kind of media who are make up less?"

Well presumably they see their girlfriends, sisters and mothers without makeup when they've just got up or something.
I do think some of them think a woman wearing natural look makeup has no makeup on at all.

Gwenhwyfar "Well presumably they see their girlfriends, sisters and mothers without makeup when they've just got up or something." I have heard of women who sleep in their make up and/or put fresh make up on first thing. It's possible some men would not see the women in their lives looking au nateraul.

"I do think some of them think a woman wearing natural look makeup has no makeup on at all." I agree, that is kind of what I meant. Clearly if I come in the room with my fuchsia lipstick DH knows it's lipstick but I wear stuff under my eyes sometimes, foundation, power and blusher and I wonder if he thinks any of that is natural (his eye sight is not fab so maybe not!)

(his eye sight is not fab so maybe he does!)

"I have heard of women who sleep in their make up and/or put fresh make up on first thing. "

Probably quite rare though. Very difficult to keep that up for a long time.

See, personally I like men who wear a little make up and style their hair, wear clean clothes, smell nice and have just a little neat stubble.
I don't like men that are all natural. Yuck

I prefer a man who is clean and tidy and not over invested in his looks.

Make up on a man - yuk.

Because they want to. Why do some women wear nice dresses everyday? Because they want to.
I find the expression 'caked on' pretty derogatory, to be honest. Mumsnet is always all up in arms about 'slut shaming.' Well you are a mean, makeup shamer ;)

I'm a lazy bum and don't wear make-up most days, but i really like the 'full face' look young 'uns are doing nowadays. Obviously there are some who dont get it quite right, but the majority look, i think, really put together and confident.

Looking back at photos from my teenage years, we all looked ropey and shit, with spidery eyelashes, nude lips and tiny sperm shaped eyebrows.

I wear a full face of make up most days. I have a skin condition which makes me feel uncomfortable when it is visible. DH sees me without make up and clearly doesn’t care- but I do. Comments about the appearance of my skin have always come from other women, incidentally.
Once I have the foundation on, I look featureless so the cheeks, eyes and lips are all put on to look relatively normal. I don’t always wear bright colours, but the make up is always there.

I wear a full face of makeup. I look like my brother without it

Any woman (or man) who makes unpleasant comments about another's looks deserves a good kicking. They are the ones who should be shamed.

Really? Do you have many male friends who talk to you honestly about what they think of women? The men I know have definite opinion on what they like or don't though they aren't necessarily as interested in clothes as women are, might not know what something is called, etc.

Yes lots.

And as I say, the seemingly constant criticism I hear and read, that seems to be prevalent right across the internet from chat forums, to blogs, to online newspapers/magazines, is predominantly from women - about women.

That's completely different to personal taste/preference.

Look at most threads on here about Katie Price/women in the royal family/the latest X Factor singer/popular actress and it'll be full of really harsh criticism on their choice of clothes, make-up, shoes, hair etc.

i think its because of insta make up artists and you tube channels but im sure there have always been people who wear more than average. i wear quite a lot of make up daily and if i dont, friends and colleagues have have asked if i am ill !!!!

i do have very large round eyes and i need to do something to altar the shocking roundness plus, in the last few years my eyebrows have just randomly fallen out so again, i wan to to do something to try and correct that.

doing my full face of make up takes me 5 minutes, so i dont need to set my alarm hours earlier.

women should do what makes them feel good!

"And as I say, the seemingly constant criticism I hear and read, that seems to be prevalent right across the internet from chat forums, to blogs, to online newspapers/magazines, is predominantly from women - about women.

That's completely different to personal taste/preference."

I don't think it is different.
I hate crock and cold shouldered tops and too much makeup. It's a disagreement on taste, it's not being nasty to any individual.

My 9yo girl told me the other day that she's not going to wear make-up when she grows up because "studies show that women who wear make are less happy with their lives" I guess she saw that somewhere.

Because it’s a free country and people can dress and look how they want. Plus some people are organised and have time. I only wear make up for special occasions but then my skin is good but if I had bad skin I would prob wear it more.