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To feel like resigning to avoid a horrible team building event

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evilharpy · 13/12/2017 19:11

It's been announced that my team (of about 15, all of whom I like but most of whom I don't know very well at all) is being sent to a team building event at the end of February. It's three days. Residential. Outdoor physical stuff. In February. It will be wet and freezing. We will have to share rooms. I hate the outdoors, especially when it's wet and freezing. I hate physical stuff unless it's a nice gym-based class. I will have to buy suitable outdoor clothes. And most of all I hate hate hate sharing rooms even with very close friends and will be desperately uncomfortable and miserable the entire time. The only way it could possibly be worse is if it involved camping.

I won't actually resign obviously (for one thing my notice period is longer than the end of Feb) but I will probably worry about it every single day until it's over.

Has anyone been on anything similar and can either confirm that it will be miserable or convince me that it might actually be fun?

OP posts:
specialsubject · 16/12/2017 19:43

not stupid about it ( hiking in jeans)

That's the difference. A lot of people now are stupid about the outdoors. And then someone not stupid has to risk rescuing them.

Gingernaut · 16/12/2017 19:59

Every team building event I've been on has involved being trapped in a conference or meeting room, with people I don't ordinarily mix with and some breathlessly overenthusiastic 'facilitator', desperately trying to whip us up into a state somewhere beyond apathy.

If the rooms had windows, the blinds were drawn, so as to prevent us being distracted from the view.

Phones switched off (or silenced) and no clocks either (we had our watches confiscated at one event Hmm), as we were supposed to not be distracted by time passing, flies buzzing or our impending deaths through boredom.

At one place, the facilitator had to be qualified to be a facilitator (something like 'Train the Trainer') and he was the biggest, bossiest twat in the room.

Also, he was not a member of any team we interacted with. Neutrality was supposed help with any conflict resolution required during the 'event', but, as he had his eyes on the cleavage of our boss from hell, was clearly not neutral.

There's usually some 'quirky' ice breaker involving laminated, clip art pictures, logic puzzles or one of those apples-spaghetti-and-build-a-nest-for-a-long-legged-bird-that-can't-sit-down tasks.

One of these events saw us demonstrating various situations, events or specific emotions with Plasticine.

Seriously.

Fully grown adults, sitting around a conference table, expressing themselves like toddlers with Plasticine.

Ice duly broken, there tends to be a brief discussion on the purpose of the 'event', a tediously inept presentation on the perceived 'problem', which will be factually incorrect on a number of points, the most hotly debated of which will be the most minor and unimportant.

To prevent the team from leaving the room, some sweaty, clingfilm wrapped food on foil platters will be delivered on a trolley at some point during the day and fresh urns of hot water or pump dispenser thermos flasks will be delivered three times.

There'll be no cold drinks and the biscuits (paired in individual, plastic packets), milk and creamer punnets, sweetener and sugar packets will be in their own little baskets with stirrers in their own little plastic cup.

There won't be enough space for everyone to get to the trolley at one time and making a cup of tea or coffee turns into a obstacle course of arms and baskets as people try to get the things they want into a single paper cup.

The team are also stuck with how to make the pump dispensers or urns yield scalding hot water.

Or it turns into "Is this one tea? Is that one coffee? Are they both tea? Where's the coffee? Are they both tea? Are they both water? Is that the safety thingy? Oh! You have to press the red clip back and press the button at the top!!"

It becomes obvious that you need three hands, one to hold the cup, one for the safety thingy and one to dispense the liquid.

Someone ends up standing by the trolly, effectively the hot water monitor.

The bin will be asked after at least twice, it won't be big enough to hold all the rubbish and the team then inflict coffee and tea breath on each other after the morning break.

Any escape from the room for toilets is strictly timed "as we have so much to get through, we can't afford to fall behind".

There's a series of excruciating exercises, involving black and white handouts of clip art strewn, coloured documents, where the yellow hasn't come through and the PowerPoint has to be turned on to read the blank bits of the pages.

Expensively printed pens and notepads are shared around, so we can jot down any ideas.

This is where the team show offs start to show off/bore for England/drone on and on and on about how they see the situation.

The group is divided into smaller groups to 'brain storm' ideas onto large A2 or A1 flip charts, with no one wanting to be the first to mark the yellowing, creased and curling paper which have seen far too many of these events and spend most of the time rolled up in a box on high stationery cupboard shelves.

Each group appoints a scribe, who finds whichever dried-up, scrubby marker pen which works the best and the groups promptly acquiesce to the gobshites, as the individual group members have lost the will to live and can't be arsed to argue with the mouthy gits.

When a spokesperson from each group is elected to give the results of their teams' 'storm', it's the least unenthusiastic person who brings the paper to the easel and flaps ineffectually in front of it, talking to their shoes and has to ask for clarification from their group as they've failed to pay any attention to what's being said.

The team blowhards carry on boring for England, arguing discussing with each other about the ideas generated from the storms.

I'm not a wallflower, but I'm unwilling to break cover from them and actually come out with an opinion or an idea, as that would put me firmly in the sights of the team know-it-alls, who might start arguing with me, defending their idea or opinion, forcing me to argue back and leave the wallflowers staring daggers at the pair of us, wishing we'd shut up as we are lengthening the day.

The day finishes with a wrap up and, no matter how poorly it went, the facilitator always tells people that it went really well, it was very interesting to meet the faces behind the names and it was a fascinating insight into the work we do.

Every. Fucking. Time.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 16/12/2017 20:13

Pretty accurate Gingernaut

PricklyBall · 16/12/2017 20:22

I had a brilliant boss 5 or 6 years back whose idea of team building was to blow the team building activities budget on taking us out for a slap-up meal in a really good restaurant once a year! Current boss is of the "buy you a round of cake and coffee in the work canteen once a month" school of thought - also works well. The prof (big boss) accomplishes team building by being suitably cynical about "corporate initiatives." Gives a good impression that he's on our side.

Gingernaut · 16/12/2017 20:26

I have to say, that if anyone took us out into the fresh air, we'd hate that too. Confused

AmeliaFlashtart · 16/12/2017 20:32

They are thought up by underemployed people in organisational development or HR who declare them a fantastic success. Awful, just awful.

crunchymint · 16/12/2017 20:40

Yes people hiking using smart phones, without water, paying no attention the weather or when it gets dark. I am super careful.

CountessofGrantham · 16/12/2017 20:46

No fucking way. No.

I had to do a management course at work - three nights in a posh hotel with own room. Could have been nice, except I had to eat and socialise with the buggers as well as stupid arsing about in the name of team building. It was hell on earth and that was inside. Fuck no to white water rafting crap in Feb.

crunchymint · 16/12/2017 21:01

Team building is pretty much a waste of time

itsallrelative2017 · 16/12/2017 22:50

Er, yes. In a hotel in my own room. That is a ridiculous comment. That is not what the OP is objecting to.

Wind your neck in @LassWiTheDelicateAir I wasn't referring to the OP nor the sharing of rooms, I was referring to the posters acting like having to stay away overnight for work was utterly abhorrent so no, my comment is not ridiculous!!

They essentially only appeal to a particular type of employee - we all know the type!

Please do enlighten us @abualb what type exactly is that?

Im genuinely shocked at all the posters so vehemently against these types of things - I've NEVER met anyone who felt anything stronger than the odd eye roll Shock

and I've never been on one that was a waste of time - every one has resulted in the people involved bonding, becoming closer and ultimately working together better afterwards but they understand each other better.....

IrritatedUser1960 · 16/12/2017 22:56

No, no and no again. No fucking way I would do this even though I really like my colleagues and would be happy to share a room with any of them.
It doesn't make teams better it's just a big pile of poo. I'd go off sick for sure.

Gingernaut · 16/12/2017 23:13

Please do enlighten us.. ..what type exactly is that?

The Believers. They have 'drunk the Kool-Aid' and believe this bollocks is worthwhile.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 17/12/2017 00:08

itsallrelative2017

Wind your neck in@LassWiTheDelicateAir I wasn't referring to the OP nor the sharing of rooms, I was referring to the posters acting like having to stay away overnight for work was utterly abhorrent so no, my comment is not ridiculous!!

The comment I was replying to was posted by a poster called thebeerfear (but possibly you have name changed)who said And all the people saying they won't stay overnight for work - eh???? I've never done a job where I didn't at some point have to stay away somewhere

As I think one poster had said they would not do an overnight stay it was and is a ridiculous comment.

No- one , including the OP, was talking about jobs where overnight stays happen for business reasons so your or thebeerfear's comment was irrelevant to the matter being discussed.

puffyisgood · 17/12/2017 00:13

AIBU to say it might be fun?

LuluJakey1 · 17/12/2017 00:19

It is the last thing I would choose to do, ever.

crunchymint · 17/12/2017 00:54

We did Go Ape as a team building event. I agreed to it thinking there was no way everyone would want to do it. Everyone else said yes. I ended up enjoying it.

bananafish81 · 17/12/2017 01:05

Isn't there a single person here who has enjoyed weekends in bunkhouses, walking in hills, sharing meals, getting cold and laughing about it later?

I'm sure there are plenty, but I'm sure as fuck not one of them. I wouldn't want to do that with my friends, let alone work colleagues. Getting cold and wet was enforced when I was at school and made to do PE. I'm an adult now and staying away is in a proper bed in a warm room! Hill walking is an activity done on a weekend away when it's not pissing with rain when you're coming back to a cosy cottage with a roaring fire. Sharing meals yes - in the warm and dry!

crunchymint · 17/12/2017 01:09

I would enjoy that with friends. But not colleagues, they are not friends

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 17/12/2017 01:34

Even if the activities weren't horrible (although they are)the enforced proximity would be too much.

On an office awayday (lots of activities ranging from quad bikes to zip lines to sitting having your nails done eating cake , none compulsory) I briefly thought of using the Victorian pool and spa but the thought of seeing work colleagues in swimsuits and them seeing me made it a complete no.

Shadow666 · 17/12/2017 01:48

Just decline. My work does a lot of evening outs and sometimes stuff on the weekend. I can't do it as I have no childcare. It's just life. I do good work and get on with everyone.

tampinfuminragin · 17/12/2017 01:51

God no, I can barely share a bedroom with my husband never mind my co workers.

GeekLove · 17/12/2017 10:47

If you are going to decline it's best to be honest not make up excuses but give the honest answers as to why. For example childcare, inclusion, safety, privacy and what the overall aim is. What would go down well is suggest possible solutions for team building and open discussion about what problems there are and what needs to be solved.

Nyx1 · 17/12/2017 13:26

OP have you told them yet? Hope it went all right.

FireCracker2 · 17/12/2017 13:32

I would just say 'no' and mean it.Assault course running can't possibly be in your job description. You are employed by them, they don't own you and have no right to make you do crap like this

AmeliaFlashtart · 17/12/2017 14:54

Gingernaut

Frighteningly accurateGrin
The horror, The horror.

The best team building event is simply getting drunk together, those at loggerheads either become slurring best buddies or have it out and clear the air. Those who get on, have a laugh and get on even better, and direct robust feedback can be given easily as alcohol lubricates both the giver and receiver.

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