To wonder why MN is so left wing/liberal?

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MN hates Brexit, the tories, pink toys, violent video games... you get the idea. But in real life most women don't mind buying gender specific toys/clothes and the election/brexit female vote was about 50/50. So what makes this place 90% lefty/lib when general society is either split or completely reversed?

MN is very left-leaning. FFS, before the last election someone started a thread every fucking day saying how amazing Jeremy Corbyn was.

And they were balanced out by threads about the (non existent) garden tax, Corbyn et al being terrorist sympathisers, wanting to steal all your money and so on.

I don't find MN to be particularly left leaning. I've read extremes of both sides and everything in between.

(Leftie with no issue with pink toys.)

You question the statistics?

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Basically clever people, rich or poor vote left wing.

Stupid people vote right wing, rich or poor.

So most people on MN are very clever.

By clever I mean they understand priorities in life, not the same as having a PhD.

makeourfuture

... and that's another UK thing: no-one must ever, ever, ever suggest that having a degree, or several degrees, or higher qualifications, is an indication of intelligence.

... and suggesting someone is 'intelligent' is, generally, an insult.

... and acting in a way that suggests you might be intelligent is very, very non-U and oppressive and the social equivalent of passing wind in company.

Oooops what have I started!!!

I suppose I was trying to point out that it is not nice when it gets stated as "stated" that only those with an education or high level of education vote Labour. As it insinuates that those who vote Tory don't have those qualifications. It doesn't reflect where I live or other areas I have lived in. I wish it did, I really do, but it doesn't. And I'm stuck with a slitherin Tory as an MP.

So yes I dared question the stats. Who said "stats, stats, stats and more lies"....

Stats can be made to say whatever someone wants them to say, so I do always question the stats. Why not ....

(I'm just explaining this to you so that you feel included.)

I think of Mumsnet as right of centre politically-soft Daily Mail if you like. Very socially small-c Conservative. And depressingly anti-feminist.
I'll give you this Bert. You're a trier.

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I have heard no one question those particular statistics. Are you saying they are incorrect?

*You question the statistics?

Julie8008 "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."*

The point of modern, right-wing, propaganda is not to make people believe something. The point of modern, right-wing, propaganda is to make people believe nothing - and thus do nothing.

Baha mary you are a right wing voter then?

FFS, before the last election someone started a thread every fucking day saying how amazing Jeremy Corbyn was.
And quite a number of those were totally disingenuous.

I find Twitter & Mumsnet to be left wing echo chambers.

Highly amusing

and suggesting someone is 'intelligent' is, generally, an insult

I think class has something to do with it yes.

Why is MN so left wing?

Because we have a Tory government. If we had a Labour government then the complaints would be about them. There's not many keyboard warriors who log in to celebrate how peachy everything is.

Why full of remainers?
Same reason.

*Why is MN so left wing?

Because we have a Tory government. If we had a Labour government then the complaints would be about them. There's not many keyboard warriors who log in to celebrate how peachy everything is.

Why full of remainers?
Same reason.*

This.

The ones who started threads saying how great JC is got pounced and told what a poseur and a shit he is.

There’s been several studies that link intelligence/education level to voting one way or the other.

this seems to link not only voting patterns but how vocal/active people were in regard to their politics.

Group hug

I also fwiw thought MN hated Corbyn.

Oh I used to post about how I detested Corby and McDonnell coming from a trad Labour background but when it became clear even my own Mum was happy to vote for them I (collapsed sobbing in the corner and) gave up..

At its best there's a mix of opinion on MN.

Mn definately attracts a guardian reading left wing clientele, OP YANBU.

I think that MN is more left leaning than right. also find that a lot of left wingers are very intolerant of the opinions of people who disagree with them.

It's left leaning for sure, it's become more balanced since the before the 2010 election, MN was very proudly left wing before then and any sniff off a Tory was roundly jumped on, doesn't happen as much nowadays but it's still there.

I agree with a PP it is not liberal, quite a lot of users are authoritarian and are quick to demand banning etc, at least it's slowed down somewhat on the slactavism.

There is also a lot of snobbery and hypocrisy on here, when JC mentioned the £75k being high earner for increased tax take there where a remarkable amount of posters who virtue signalled proclaimed that they are happy to pay more tax to help the poor before the GE to then suddenly come out in a sweat and complain.

Its become taboo now to have any other opinion than Labour/ Remain

Not sure the Daily Mail got your memo, GardenGeek. What with "Enemies of the People" blazoned under photos of the judges who'd been asked to rule on procedure (not even on whether Brexit happened but just how to do it constitutionally).

And you don't seem shy yourself.

So why make such a claim?

I find the strange persecution complex of some right-wingers very odd.

I'm guessing they grew up longing to be the cool misfit, misunderstood by all; the young man who attracted sensitive, intelligent women, who would spend hours lying by their side, wandering through the labyrinth of their sun-dappled minds, and would then articulate their beautiful self back to them in words of soft poetry.

Alas, this never happened.

This delusion of victimisation is a let middle-age approximation of that long-cherished fantasy.