That Britain should rethink BREXIT

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David Davis admitting that the impact of Brexit will be equal to the credit crunch should surely make the country revisit the decision.
Why put your country through such a difficult period?

Sooo basically Norway 2.0

It looks like Norway.

I'll settle for Norway 2.0.

I am fully aware that U.K. had a veto.

However, previous PMs have shown that they will accept things that have ramifications down the line (John Major, Tony Blair & Gordon Brown for example).

If we are 'out' but still aligned, any future PM cannot make a decision to sign us up to stuff irrevocably - if we (voters) don't like a decision taken that we can oust them at the next GE & decide to terminate our association.

This will be far simpler when out of the 'club' than in - as has been proven thus far, it is a clusterfuck of epic proportions trying to disentangle ourselves from full membership.

This is what 'taking back control' means in the grand scheme of things.

This is what 'taking back control' means in the grand scheme of things.

Alternatively, we have no say.

If only Gove had become PM he could take the blame for the clusterfuck.

As an ardent remainer, it's not a terrible result by any means.

A decision was made in the referendum but I really don't think it was an informed decision. Things like the economic impact and the Irish question should have been properly debated & considered before the vote & I don't think they were.

FHCDesperation

It's good to hear you are happy to be corrected.

Not to quibble, but why can't we all retain EU citizenship?

Norway (population 5.3 million) pays euros 400 million in grants to EU's poorest countries (per year). Which is informally linked to their trade access deal with EU.

Scaling up, UK has population of 65.6 million, 400*(65.6/5.3) = 4.95 billion euros, about 4.3 bn £.

I wonder at what point the Brexiters will widely clock this inconvenience.

Sounds like a good deal.

It's half what we contribute as a net figure now.

"The rights of EU citizens living in the United Kingdom and United Kingdom citizens in the EU27 will remain the same after the United Kingdom has left the EU."

so all those who voted LEAVE to get rid of the forriners... Where does this leave them?

I don't get this rights business. Why should EU people living here not be subject to the laws of this country like everybody else. Are they all being given diplomatic immunity or something.

I don't get this rights business
No, clearly you don't. Go and read up on it, and then maybe you won't be reduced to making inane comments about diplomatic immunity

I don't get this rights business.

Clearly.

Who is the "everybody else" that Vivienne referred to?

I didn't know if that was a Leave- or Remain-supporting post by Vivienne.

As a non-EU national, working in an office full of non-EU nationals but all long-living in UK, I know a fair bit about our lack of rights (we are definitely not like "everyone else."). At least until we got citizenship sorted out. EU wanted stability & security for its citizens (who happen to have made homes in UK). Very reasonable point to prioritise first and foremost.

Prima facie NI folk get to keep EU citizenship while everyone else loses theirs.

The diplomatic status thing was sarcasm. Sorry if you weren't clever enough to get this. Might as well sneer a bit. If you can't beat them join them.

Won't be Norway or staying in SM as far as I can see.

Tacit acceptance of end of FoM in the agreement and financial settlement would need serious unpicking to justify "access" payments.

However like Faith I would consider £4 bn a great deal better than current position. I actually object far more to being told how the UK spends its own money in the UK via disbursements under CAP and structural funds etc than I do to "aid" disbursed to encourage development in UK's trading partners within the EU.

Usual nonsense, Viviennemary.

Usual sneering.

Presumably moneys coming from the EU will dry up, regulatory harmony or no. Since we've already seen staunch Leave areas whine for special deals, I wonder if or whether Westminster will bother to make those subsidies good for them?