For those who pierce their baby's ears...

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Would you see it as okay to pierce their nose? Eyebrow? Tongue? Why is it okay to stab a needle through the ear lobe, when presumably most people would be horrified by any other piercing on a baby?!

I waited until DD was 11 before she had her ears professionally pierced she had a violent allergic reaction, image if she'd been a baby.I was 16 when I had mine done and the only ones I could wear were gold hoops anything else and my ear would swell and get hot and I'd produce loads of discharge.

Not worth risking it for a baby

ask people who have children who have been damaged by vaccines

there's always a risk, but on balance the risk of NOT vaccinating is not worth taking.

What are the risks of not piercing a baby's ears exactly?

Well, as a 50 year old woman I grew up seeing my pals talking about getting their ears pierced at about 15/16. This was the 80s. It was a right of passage, I guess.

I had mine done at around 4 years old when I was taken to see family abroad and they laughed at my lack of piercings so my mother had my ears done (late). English father went along with it for cultural reasons.

So I grew up seeing my friends have this right of passage coversation. I think I was only kid at school with earrings but I don’t remember any issues. Found the conversations odd and a bit sad as I couldn’t really join in!

Bit conflicted but I’m 😮 at young European children with piercings as I didn’t grow up seeing that..

'What are the risks of not piercing a baby's ears exactly? - yep..don't get the big deal in reverse...

So your ethics wrt piercing are equal to the ethics of those parents who do pierce babies ears SheGotBetteDavisEyes? Equal, but different?

I'm not sure what you mean...I'm not offering 'my ethics.' I'm offering my opinion on an ethical debate about the rights and wrongs of piercing babies' ears.

My elder two dds had Theirs pierced at around 2 and 3 and I felt like I'd mutilated them it's was an awful decision.
I was in Claire's last week and there was a girl of about 2/3 getting hers done she was screaming/crying she didn't want to and the Mum and Dad were bribing her with something saying she wouldn't have it if she didn't get it done. It was awful and I know I'd never get my younger 2 done until they can decide for themselves.
It is chavvy nowadays anyway I don't think it looks nice at all.

Do you think that parents who pierce are right or wrong?

Totally vile, unforgivable and should be illegal.

Lola - it's terrible that a shop assistant would agree to do that in those circumstances (seeing the child actively opposing it)!

If the child doesn't want it don't do it!...both of mine did I went to a specialist who worked with young children...

Should be illegal. It's done purely for the parents benefit. Vile. (Plus it looks chavvy as hell on a baby).

Let them make the decision themselves when they're older for gods sake.

The problem with that mistress is that a baby can't tell you whether they want it or not.

If the child doesn't want it don't do it - I agree, and with all other types of consent we should assume that someone does not want something until they state otherwise, not the other way round. Babies cannot consent ergo do not pierce them.

Well my 'babies' did they were both almost 2 years old and I explained it would hurt...should I not respect their feelings because of their age?..they understood what hurt was I said mummy would look after them I said they could wait..till now they remember..they wanted it...it was convenient for me I could make sure their ears were cared for properly...job done..what I find more disgusting is 13yr olds with belly and tongue piercings

mistress - I'm not referring to your DC. They understood and consented. I'm talking about actual babies.

Oh ffs, of all the things in the world to concern yourself with.

I know you're only thinking on behalf of all those poor, uneducated people and thier abused children.....but......is this actually in response to the millions of women around the world complaining that thier ears were pierced as babies?

Come to think of it, is this something someone with pierced ears has asked anyone to campaign on thier behalf about? Ever?

The vast majority of the world really couldn't give two shits and finds this opinion uppity. And believe me, it's not due to thier lack of education/vision.

Most people tend to think people like you are a bit bored and full of thier own self importance. If youre all for women's/babies rights, start with something that oppressed people have asked you to give two shits about and that doesn't require your 'basic' judgement.

There we go, 3 separate people saying it's "chavvy"

This is what I meant by judgemental

Where I came off it was pretty standard and nothing to do with class.

It's harmless, reversible, has an obvious benefit in that you get to wear earrings AND not bother doing it when you're older, and hardly painful if done properly. So all these people shouting "abuse"......it's not though is it.

I saw a beautiful baby this week and I mean a stunner and guess what she had tiny diamond studs.. she was 1 yr old...did I judge her mum ?...erm NO I had better things to do..now if she didn't have a coat or hat on in this weather...no socks perhaps.....but earrings???

mistress - I'm not referring to your DC. They understood and consented. I'm talking about actual babies

Actually, Mistress's were both "almost 2 years old" so they were actual babies. One of mine wanted to be a snail at 2.

I agree with the basic point made several times above that if it's not OK to hold any/everyone down and pierce them regardless of their wishes, it certainly shouldn't be for a baby.

I love that WhatAmI can speak for the vast majority of the world.

It's not reversible. The holes will always be visible. Mu DB had an earring when he was 17. He only had it for a few weeks and it healed up again - but you can still see v clearly where it was.

A baby who grows up to dislike pierced ears will have the marks for life through no choice of his/her own. I know they're only tiny, but they'll be there.

A baby who grows up to dislike pierced ears

Has anyone ever met one of these?

So your child wanted to be a snail...but both my daughters didn't they understood they were humans and wanted their ears pierced ...but I hear you kicking and screaming unacceptable...but tbh my ears were pierced with frozen sausages and a needle at about 3-4yrs old and I wanted them..my sisters had it earlier it really doesn't matter...I know you think it should ..

Having my ears pierced led to a 6 week stay in hospital, some of it in intensive care. I'm bloody glad it happened when I was a strong fit 16 yo and not when I was a baby because I wouldn't be here.

How many people need to grow up hating that their parents took liberties with their body when they were too young to consent before it isn't okay?

LOL Yolo mine are already asking for more..I said 16 yrs old and they are giving me issues