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never been invited to my sons house.

107 replies

pinky12 · 28/11/2017 20:00

My son lived on his own fro 3 years before he got married and i use to see him regularly, and visit his flat, now he has been married 15 months i have not been to his place once, even though his wife and him come to see us regularly to have dinner at home or in a restaurant, and they are both happy for me and my husband to fork out on expensive gifts for them including holidays. Her parents live some distance away but they visit them often, what have i done wrong.

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pinky12 · 29/11/2017 10:34

when my son lived on his own I would just pop around whenever, I don't feel comfortable doing that anymore, `i have talked to my son about this
and he says because they visit us there is no need fro them to have us there.

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KatherinaMinola · 29/11/2017 10:40

I'm afraid it sounds like DIL doesn't want you there then.

Same issue for me (I'm the DIL) and as I said above, in our case it's because MIL is toxic. I understand that we have to see her but, as a PP said, I don't want to be made unhappy in my own home - so we go to hers.

I would take a long hard look at yourself if I were you, and see what you can do to change.

Lweji · 29/11/2017 10:45

What happens at Christmas, for example?

Itsonkyme · 29/11/2017 10:49

I wouldn't worry about it Pinky12.
It seems to be a general thing that Grown up children come back to the home to visit and be fussed over and spoiled. It really doesn't worry me at all.
I think that I have been to my son and dil's house about half a dozen times in ten years. He's actually told me that he can't relax with other people in his house.
My daughter lives closer to me and I have been more hands on with Gc so I just walk in their house whenever I want and go for Sunday lunch most weeks.
It's really what everyone is comfortable with.
Btw. All my grown up children have keys for my house and could come around even when I'm not there. Ds keeps loads of stuff in my garage and his business paperwork here and gets his lunch here most days while passing through.. Daughter usually rushes over for an onion or something in the middle of cooking, we live literally garden to garden, I am an extension of the Supermarket.
Love my two Dc equally even though the differences.

MillennialFalcon · 29/11/2017 11:14

No offence but if you were used to just turning up before maybe they want to put down some boundaries. It's different now he's married and they might prefer privacy. Try not to take it personally. They do see you regularly so they might not even realise you are unhappy with the situation. You seem to resent what you've spent on them but did they expect you or pressure you to? A gift should be freely given. If you don't want to give them expensive gifts, stop. If you want to visit them, ask when would be a good time. Sometimes the simplest approach is best.

pinky12 · 29/11/2017 11:25

last christmas they came to us as did her parents.

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Lweji · 29/11/2017 11:27

Could you suggest that they host both sets this year?

Itsonkyme · 29/11/2017 11:36

Are you staying that as good or bad Pinky?

Itsonkyme · 29/11/2017 11:37

Saying

blueskypink · 29/11/2017 11:44

"Can I come and visit you? It feels really strange not ever having been to your home"

Would anyone really say no to that?

I can't imagine not being able to visualise my dcs in the places they live. Two are away at university - some years I've been able to visit, if not I get them to do a FaceTime tour of their flat/house. Not suggesting that for you, but just demonstrating that it is entirely natural to want to know about where your offspring lives. And my offspring don't think it's odd for me to want that - or if they do they love me enough to humour me.

JayoftheRed · 29/11/2017 11:52

My in laws don't come to us very often, mainly because I really didn't get on with them for a long time, and although things are much better now, we've got into a good routine of my husband taking our kids round to theirs - about a half an hour drive away.

They do come to us more regularly now DS1 has started school - my ILs are only really interested in seeing the DC rather than us/DH. I struggled with this for a long time, hence DH taking the boys to their house as I could't handle their indifference and lack of interest in their own son. He was ok with it though, having spent all his life not being good enough (apparently).

Anyway, I really enjoy my free afternoons at the weekend, I get to relax, have a hot bath, read, nap, whatever. We often schedule visits to work around the football season, so we don't miss out on time together - DH will take the boys to his parents while I'm at the football, but I'm minding less and less if they go when there is no football.

We now have them to us once a fortnight for dinner, then me and DH go out for a drink (or sometimes just the weekly shop with no children!) while they put the kids to bed. It works for us all and I still don't spend a massive amount of time with them - not because I don't like them (anymore at least!) but because they really only want to see the kids, and that's ok.

My parents live 5 minutes away and my mum especially will often drop in (usually having text in advance to check it's ok), but she'll only stop for a cup of tea and a chat, usually less than an hour. My parents rarely come for a meal, invited or otherwise. Dad and my brother come over sometimes for a few ciders and to listen to the football when our team is away, but again, not often. We generally meet them at theirs or the pub - it's the way our family works.

My MIL will now and again make noises about wanting to be invited round - we sometimes do so, but if it doesn't work, we don't. They see us every week, they have DS2 once a week all day (8.30-6.30) so that's plenty to my mind!

If you've spoken to your son about it, and he seems to think that there's no need because he sees you elsewhere, then short of turning up unannounced, it doesn't sound promising.

If buying them expensive gifts is a problem, then don't do it. If they offer to meet in a restaurant, perhaps check in advance that they are paying for themselves? If you suggest restaurants, then stop.

Alternatively, you could perhaps buy them something, then drop them a text to say that you're down the road and could you pop in with whatever it is, and then perhaps ask for a cup of tea once you're there. If they kick up a fuss, then you know it's more than just "we see you elsewhere."

Hope that helps. And if you do manage to get invited/go round, for the love of all that's holy, don't criticise, don't judge, don't screw your face up etc. Either say nothing, or mention how lovely it is.

Goldenhandshake · 29/11/2017 11:52

He is your son, surely you can say 'Oi, you owe me dinner, is x date convenient for me to come over'.

I tell my sisters mum etc when I want to come visit and we work out mutually convenient times, its all very relaxed, I don't need a formal invite to visit family and would never expect to have to do this with my children either.

Hippee · 29/11/2017 11:57

My DB and SIL never invite my parents round (have been married 12 years). DM looks after their DC regularly, goes on holiday with them (pays for it), has DB round for meals when he is working nearby. I don't get this "well they see her enough" busness - surely it is good manners to reciprocate occasionally.

Wishingandwaiting · 29/11/2017 12:04

The tone of your OP... I don’t know, the undercurrent is that perhaps you’re not the nicest person to be around.

MinervaSaidThat · 29/11/2017 12:06

The tone of your OP... I don’t know, the undercurrent is that perhaps you’re not the nicest person to be around.

What a cuntish post. Reported.

OP, you're fine.

Wishingandwaiting · 29/11/2017 12:10

Good grief Minerva!

therealposieparker · 29/11/2017 12:15

My PILs thought they could treat our house as their own, this real meant they totally dismissed my autonomy in my own home. It would be like I was the guest. They are also the sort of parents who cannot be honest and open with their child. Why don't you just ask your son?

anonymousity · 29/11/2017 12:16

Why don't you ask if you want to visit??? I never go out of my way to invite either parents round (mostly because I cannot achieve the level of cleanliness they expect from me with two toddlers in the house!!!) so we usually visit them. However---my parents do occasionally ask to visit and they are always welcome. PILs also welcome but never ask...
At the end of the day though, you still see them regularly so I'm not sure what the big deal is??

Lweji · 29/11/2017 12:18

Wishingandwaiting is not the only one on this thread to think so.

The "fork out on expensive gifts for them including holidays" is highly suggestive of a certain type of attitude.

I'd say that when someone is clearly kept away from a relative's home that it might be useful to examine their own behaviour.

Champagneandthestars · 29/11/2017 12:30

Could you imagine what would be said if there was a man who would not allow his wife's mother to their house? He would be declared controlling and abusive! Lots of you saying your MIL is a nightmare, I'm sure your own mother is perfect Hmm.

KC225 · 29/11/2017 12:31

Are you a brilliant cook and hostess? Could DIL feel a little intimidated by inviting you over and before everyone accuses me of being sexist, I say this as you say you visited your son regularly before she moved in.

Are these expensive gifts 'home gift's? My MIL insist son giving me cushions/ornaments/duvet covers for birthdays and Christmas. I used to work for a leading Interior Design company and am particularly fussy. I am a vegetarian so she assumes I want everything emblazoned with cartoon animals. I tend to charity shop or give away the unused items, so here visits are a little uneasy. Could this be an issue?

As others have suggested it could be untidy/not guest ready. If you are seeing them every week and going on holiday together it doesn't sound like a relationship problem. Although your snipey comment about their lack of expensive gift appreciation was noted.

Next time they come over, say jokingly 'ok I thinks it's your turn to host when d'you want us' I think their reaction will give a lot away. Little tip, of she starts fretting about what to cook, suggest they get a take away.

RagingFemininist · 29/11/2017 12:36

Talk to your SON.
Tell HIM you word like to come to his house, you would be happy to bring lunch etc...
Please dint rely on your DIL to do all the leg work. Why should she organise things to invite you etc? She is doing it for her parents, your ds can do it for you.

Another question is, how are things when they come over (I imagine you are inviting them?) tense, relaxed? If everything is relaxed, the I would assume your DIL is expecting your son to deal with his side of the family and to organise things. I know I do expect H to organise visits form his family, which he never does wo any input from me.....

user1495451339 · 29/11/2017 12:39

I think it's rude if you host all the time. They should make the effort occasionally to cook you a nice meal or even just have you over for coffee and cake!

We have my parents over and if they are passing they will call to see if we are around and pop in and vice versa. My parents prefer to host but I make sure I cook a nice meal for them from time to time.

My husband's parents live at the other end of the country so visit for a week at a time about twice a year and we visit them twice a year too.

ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 29/11/2017 12:42

My parents just turn up for brief mid week visits to see the kids, or slightly longer weekend visits. Rarely organised in advance. My PIL also seem to think they have to be invited though they've declined the last couple of invitations - it's my husband's problem, not mine. I'm just as busy as he is, I organise seeing my family, he can organise seeing his iyswim. He's just lax, doesn't seem bothered if he speaks to them one month to the next.

Lweji · 29/11/2017 12:45

Lots of you saying your MIL is a nightmare, I'm sure your own mother is perfect

I did say on my first post that I don't have mother around much, because she tends to be judgemental.